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I'm not sounding the death knell yet but as a hypothetical: if the team and the season really does crater, will you still follow the Packers as much as you have the last 30 years and will you still remain active at X4?

Not sure what my investment will be right now.  I've got twin 5 year olds that have already redirected most of my "free time" as well as giving more perspective on what's really important in life.  But I became a fan in 1980 when nobody in my family and none of my friends at school had any interest in the Packers and I don't think I'd completely cut the cord regardless of what happens.  I think I'd still post here though maybe not as much.  It would be a shame if we lost some of the regulars that make this place so much fun.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the fan base in general  There are a LOT of fans who only came on board when they started winning with Holmgren/Favre and have only known success through MM/MLF/AR.  I'm guessing many of those fans will go away.

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I’ll follow them no matter what.  When the Pack has been really bad in the past, I pay more attention to other teams.

Back when the Pack had a couple down seasons in 1979/1980 I was a huge fan of the San Diego Chargers of that era.

In the late 1980s I mostly rooted for whatever team could knock out the Bears from the playoffs. 😀

I started following the Packers in 65. Why ?Because I saw pictures of them in SI. We got  no Packers games on TV in NY unless it was a playoff game. Followed them thru the dark times and will continue to follow. But if the weather is nice and I have work to do outside I'm not sitting at a computer streaming the game while they decide to play like shit. I can listen on XM and record the game to watch later if I want. And I don't get all bent when they lose.

I sometimes tell others how tough it has been to be a Packers fan over the last several years. We came so close so often, they have been years of seeing false hopes crushed again and again. Fans of the Lions or Jaguars had no such hopes in the first place, or if they did they were crushed early in the season - no waiting until the playoffs to see them slip away.

When I lived in Milwaukee, I was a fan of the local Admirals hockey team for years. They usually didn't do too well, and I often found myself coming up with wildly improbable scenarios of how they could squeak into the payoffs and win the championship. I think in sports, one always has to hang on to any thread of hope that remains, just in case.

I guess it's sort of a different scenario with the Packers because we've seemed almost guaranteed to make the playoffs almost as long as I can remember. It will be a big adjustment to start hoping against all odds to even have a chance at a wildcard spot. Living on the West Coast, the games are at inconvenient times anyways (10am and 1pm). If they go much below 500, I might just decide to keep an eye on the scores instead of watching the whole game.

After rambling for so long, I'll lleave you with some song lyrics that express how I feel about the squad:

The dancer slows her frantic pace
In pain and desperation
Her aching limbs and downcast face
Aglow with perspiration
Stiff as wire, her lungs on fire
With just the briefest pause
The flooding through her memory
The echoes of old applause.
She limps across the floor
And closes her bedroom door...
The writer stare with glassy eyes
Defies the empty page
His beard is white, his face is lined
And streaked with tears of rage
Thirty years ago, how the words would flow
With passion and precision
But now his mind is dark and dulled
By sickness and indecision
And he stares out the kitchen door
Where the sun will rise no more
Some are born to move the world
To live their fantasies
But most of us just dream about
The things we'd like to be
Sadder still to watch it die
Than never to have known it
For you, the blind who once could see
The bell tolls for thee
The bell tolls for
For you the blind who once could see
The bell tolls for thee...
The bell tolls for thee...
@Chongo posted:

Packer Message Board Legends come and go...Hank and Kiel, along with the rest of us, will one day take their place alongside names like Patty, Joe Arrigo and Slayer...the circle of life...

For the last word in your post, I was pretty sure you were going to use “jerks” instead of “life”

Are we talking leaving on purpose or getting accidentally banned?

Packers fans are spoiled, especially the ones that grew up in the Favre era that continued when AR took over.  Having a legitimate chance to win the SB every year just isn't normal... but we've had that going on for almost 30 years.  

I grew up a Packer fan in the 70's and 80's through the lean years and I'll die a Packer fan regardless of how crappy they are.  In today's NFL with free agency you can build a pretty damn good team quickly if you do it right.  The lean years, if they're coming, won't last that long.

I won't be upset if we lose a few negative MFers here at X4 over the next several months.  That Buck forum needs them.

@Chongo posted:

Packer Message Board Legends come and go...Hank and Kiel, along with the rest of us, will one day take their place alongside names like Patty, Joe Arrigo and Slayer...the circle of life...

Mr. T (imagine someone less tactful than Henry) from the Journal Sentinal forum that gave birth to Timesfour.

The greatest timesfour poster ever: Lionheart. YOUR ALL BABIES!!!!!!!!!! Waaaaah!!!!!!!!! Fart will Chock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sure. Why not? But I do miss some of the posters from the past. I have been here for 22 years, so maybe they are dead (or pretending to be dead)

As of this typing, I'm not dead. But as we all know, tomorrow is not guaranteed. It's getting harder for me to type much as both my parents had arthritis in their hands. As my orthopedic PA recently said, "You were doomed from the start, weren't you?"  At least the hyaluronic acid shot in the knee still helps. I must be at least the 20 year mark by now. Geesh...time flies when you're having fun. As long as BK is still here to entertain us, I'll be reading.

BTW, I've given up going to the games. For the cost of 2 to 3 tickets to the kind of seats I like, I can afford to rent a vacation home Up North for a few days so we as an entire family can enjoy time together. After our experiences in 2021, it is valuable time.

But I will always watch the Packers. (Unless my BP starts getting too high.)

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