Will You Still Follow the Packers/Post on X4?

@Benzene posted:

I grew up in the 70s and 80s.  Packer wins seemed more special back then.  For the last 20 years I’ve been expecting wins.  Even when they won, they didn’t win good enough.  It took a lot of the excitement away.  There is a part of me that would like to see a rebuilding of the franchise right now.  Just to get that back.  It’s also possible that is just something from my childhood that will never come back.  Maybe I’m just too old and cynical now.  

The part about expecting wins resonates.  Every game I watch turns out to be an emotional grind. My daughter always asks me why I don't cheer when they score...what I don't tell her is that it is more a feeling of relief rather than joy. Same when a victory is finally secired..it's a relief (except when they beat the fucking Queens,then I do a happy dance).  I guess that's what being spoiled by 30 years of success and high expectations does to you. It's definitely given me pause to put into perspective how important my football team should be to me.  I tell myself that and yet each week I'm back to the same nutty mindset.

@Shadow posted:

Come on Kiel, you know you need to get the doll first before asking that question.

I guess if you think it helps.

My time spent following sports has nose dived over the past 10 years.
The day will come when I'm unable to do all the outdoor activities, and I'm sure I'll resume following again.  For now, a losing team will not reduce amount of time spent following them.

Are you kidding me?  I was born in Green Bay, family ties to some famous Packers, I was raised to bleed green and gold and I grew up when the Packers sucked.  Not just a losing season like we're having so far. I mean, back then there really seemed to be no hope they would ever be a good team.  Fans still filled the seats, losing season after losing season, years of futility, bad coaches, bad scouts, and seemingly no will or knowledge on how to make changes by the Packers brass.  I remember when we'd pick up a washed out free agent who used to be a good player, and we'd get so excited even though it made no difference.  I remember we were so bad, we enjoyed the feud between Ditka's Bears and Gregg's Packers.  I cheered when Charles Martin slammed McMahon to the turf, it was something anyway.  What we're experiencing now was nothing compared to that bleakness.  And I'm still a fan even though I've lived in Denver now longer than I lived in WI.  And I'll be a fan until I die.  And I'll still watch every game as I have since I can remember.  And I'll be here until this board disappears, or I get banned.  I enjoy the different personalities here - I've had a blast.

Things could actually get interesting if this season continues how it started.  It won't happen this year, but I won't cry if we end up sucking so bad that WMM gets fired eventually, and a new board president gets voted in who gets rid of the stupid silo structure we have.

I was 100% loyal throughout the 70's and 80's.  So not flinching now!

Been on this forum since the old JSOnline version back in the days, and have always come here to read and reclaimer my emotions.  Im posting less and less nowadays, but will always come back.  There are several here from the inception of x4 and its a cool feeling of community, win or lose!

Anyone hear from Calbuc?

(Formerly PackfaninColorado -- changed my moniker since i now live in Bakersfield! Go Love!!)

@YooperPackfan posted:

What are you gonna do if THEY decide to leave?

NEVER happen.

Yes, and yes. Or, of course.

@Blair Kiel posted:

I guess if you think it helps.

Pretty sure I know her.

@Benzene posted:

"What did BK want?"

He kept asking me to sit next to him.  It was kinda creepy.

Sorry! Since Henry left he’s been unbearable. Does X4 have an HR department?

I’m in pain.

Jerk.

Holy shit is reading this thread depressing. You'd think the franchise was moving out of WI for St.Paul or something! Look, do I avoid this place at times when the losing becomes intolerable? Hell yes. It's not because I don't love all of you, it's because I tell myself "why the hell do I obsess so much about something that I have absolutely no control over??? In my mind avoiding this place somehow makes me think I won't feed my obsession with the team.

But you know what? I do truly think Packers fans are a unique breed just like the team itself. Some of the best and most knowledgeable fans I've come across are on this site, and like many have stated,  X4 is my "go to" for the most up to date and in-depth coverage of the team. I'm not a big social media guy, but this place will always be near and dear.

I have absolutely no idea what will transpire this year, but I can think of other years in recent memory that looked similarly bleak, although most of those were minus AR due to injury. MM's last season (2018?) blew ass too, but the team rebounded the next year. No more doom and gloom! I actually expect a rebound vs a complete collapse. If it's an off year,  then so be and I'm sure they're will be optimism in Spring. I sound like an effin loser, but I'll never quit my obsession with this team, and always consider this site a must visit daily.

This will be my last post until "we" are over .500 again.

All the bitching these last few weeks is pretty ironic in that so many of the bitchers mock Viking, Bears, Cowboys fans, et. al. for all their complaining, giving up on a season early, giving up on players, etc.  

Waaah, AR! Waaaah, MLF!  Waaah, Murphy! Waaahh, the DC.

LOLOLOLOLOL,

@Blair Kiel posted:

I guess if you think it helps.

Beef would hit that

@Blair Kiel posted:

Where did Fedya touch you? 😀

It was Henry.

Let's be honest with the biracial elephant in the room.... It's fairly apparent the Packers are tanking this season for a better draft pick.

I don’t think so. But it would have its advantages.

@Blair Kiel posted:

I’m in pain.

Jerk.

Swollen balls? I feel your pain!

Wow, reading this thread and seeing some of the "classic" posters is great to see kids. I hope you all stick around as long as you can or at least follow the board.

As @Pakrz said, the NFL today is simply not built for franchises to suck for decades anymore. That the Lions and Jags a couple of other teams have done it is truly an anomaly and speaks much more to inept owners than it does to how the league works.

So the idea that the Packers will go back to the 70s and pure suck just isn't realistic. Now a 3rd HOF QB in a row? Ok, that might be a stretch. But we see what teams with good offensive coordinators and good QB's can do. They win plenty of games, they make playoff runs, and yes, even a Matt Stafford collects a ring.

No reason to think life after Favre/Rodgers won't bring that same success.

@Goalline posted:

Swollen balls? I feel your pain!

How can they swell inside his wife's purse?

@packerboi posted:

Wow, reading this thread and seeing some of the "classic" posters is great to see kids. I hope you all stick around as long as you can or at least follow the board.

As @Pakrz said, the NFL today is simply not built for franchises to suck for decades anymore. That the Lions and Jags a couple of other teams have done it is truly an anomaly and speaks much more to inept owners than it does to how the league works.

So the idea that the Packers will go back to the 70s and pure suck just isn't realistic. Now a 3rd HOF QB in a row? Ok, that might be a stretch. But we see what teams with good offensive coordinators and good QB's can do. They win plenty of games, they make playoff runs, and yes, even a Matt Stafford collects a ring.

No reason to think life after Favre/Rodgers won't bring that same success.

I'd be more than happy if Jordan Love turns out to be as good as Matthew Stafford.

@Chongo posted:

How can they swell inside his wife's purse?

On weekends, they’re in a mason jar on the nightstand in case friskiness breaks out.

@MichiganPacker posted:

I'd be more than happy if Jordan Love turns out to be as good as Matthew Stafford.

Stafford has a Super Bowl ring. Hell yeah, I would take that.

@Blair Kiel posted:

On weekends, they’re in a mason jar on the nightstand in case friskiness breaks out.

And his wife keeps kicking over the mason jar.

"Oops"!

@PackLandVA posted:

Maybe TimesFour could use a colon cleanse.

Is that part of the New Member Drive?

@Blair Kiel posted:

On weekends, they’re in a mason jar on the nightstand in case friskiness breaks out.

Not on Funk and Wagnall's porch?

@michiganjoe posted:

Of course. Quality of the product won't affect either my allegiance to or support level of the Packers.

Packers, or timesfour?

I started following the Packers in 1962.  My Dad watched the games on TV.  I had a neighbor who taught me how to watch the games, it's rules, formations, blocking techniques, etc.  He was a year or two older than I was.  I started reading books about the NFL and the Packers.  I started watching games as regularly as I could.  My first Packer game in person was against the Falcons (in their first year).  My Dad got 2 tickets and I was asked if I wanted to go.  The Packers won 23-0 that day.  And Ben Wilson scored a TD going around the end where we were sitting. 

I followed the Packers from a distance when I was in the 'growing family years' - which coincides with the 80's down years.  I came in work one day and people were asking if I saw "the track meet" the previous night - more commonly known as the high scoring game between GB and Washington on Monday night football.  There was something else going and I missed it.  I had to settle for highlights here and there until I got a DVD of the game.  I watched the Packers when I could.  Of my 5 kids, 2 are Packer fans.  My son comes to me one day and says that Favre had announced his retirement.  I replied with "those kind of things happen".  Then he said, "Dad I only know of one QB in GB in my life.  What is it like to have another QB?"  I assured him things will be alright and that I have seen other QBs come and go - but the team still stands.

I have been here since 2007.  But I was here for a time before that when it was a different owner - Scoop?  And I used a different name.  I went to a different forum for a while and then came back here.  I have been thru the ups and downs of Packer football.  I am not going anywhere. 

"My first Packer game in person was against the Falcons (in their first year).  ......  The Packers won 23-0 that day." - GOL

I have been to 3 Packer-Falcon games over the years.  GB has won all of them without the preferred QB in 2 of them.  On the day I referenced, Zeke Bratkowski played in place of Starr - who was sidelined with rib injury.  AR played in one.  But he was hurt for another and the LSU QB (who name eludes me) played instead. 

You're thinking of Matt Flynn, GoL.

I've done similar, the difference being it's when the Packers play here in Atlanta.
Started at the old Atlanta Fulton County stadium in the late 1980's , then on to the Georgia Dome when it was built.
If I can recall correctly, I've got to see Majik, Tomczak, TOG, and Arod play, as well with the players associated with those different eras--some forgettable, some not.

@Timmy! posted:

You're thinking of Matt Flynn, GoL.

That is it.  Thanks. 

@QuietOne posted:

I just looked - it was 22 years in March.

Same with me. 22 years in September. I guess if there's a layoff I'll get it because you have seniority. Fuckin union...

I miss Lionheart...the goat..

Have NEVER been to a game.    But did go to at least 15 Family Nights as a “Packer Partner”.    (Not in existence anymore).       ♥️ 💚 💛

First Packer game I went to in Buffalo was in the Lynn Dickey Era. Couple that sat next to me was at the Ice Bowl. They missed the 2nd half because she slipped on the ice and she broke her leg. They were also Bart's next door neighbor's at some point.

Signed up on Feb 4, 2000, so its 22+ years for me. I plan to keep hanging around. During that time a lot of good, and some not so good, posters have come and gone. I certainly am happy that X4 exists for several reasons. Thanks to all who have kept this site running!

@PackLandVA posted:

Careful sitting next to BK. If he offers to share his bucket of popcorn, politely decline.

It's OK to take some popcorn if it's full. If it's half empty (who am I kidding, you are safe until the bottom 3 inches) then stay away!

I am mostly a lurker now but I still check in here and still manage the weekly ranked football picks for the six who participate.

@PackerHawk posted:

It's OK to take some popcorn if it's full. If it's half empty (who am I kidding, you are safe until the bottom 3 inches) then stay away!

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