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The Packers need to quickly get out a team picture where they are all wearing ugly Christmas sweaters and something like “Winning Ugly can be a Beautiful thing...Merry Christmas from the Green Bay Packers.”

vitaflo posted:

I knew the Queens were chokers but when they punted with 3:40 left in the game I didn't realize they were also quitters.



It wasn't that decision. Wasn't it like 4th & 24? They had 2 timeouts too. I would've punted BUT....

How about when it was 4th & 1....and they tried to draw the Pack offsides, then instead of taking a 5 yard penalty they used their first TO. THAT was the play I laughed at & said, "Thanks ZIM!" I would've been furious if MLF did THAT!

Sweeping those A-holes & getting the first Packer win ever, CLINCHING the division title in their place. Ultra Sweet!

Where is @TouchdownWhitewaterJesus ?? He told us all to "hammer" the +200 MoneyLine. Dude is a Jeenyous!

13X posted:

So nice to finally get a convincing win and especially against those pukes. We haven't had many convincing victories this year. Let's hope they're getting hot at just the right time!

STFU.  Eat crow you fucking asshole and your backhanded compliments.  

Troy posted:
13X posted:

So nice to finally get a convincing win and especially against those pukes. We haven't had many convincing victories this year. Let's hope they're getting hot at just the right time!

STFU.  Eat crow you fucking asshole and your backhanded compliments.  

Yeesh!

MerryChristmasRock

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Boris posted:
Troy posted:
13X posted:

So nice to finally get a convincing win and especially against those pukes. We haven't had many convincing victories this year. Let's hope they're getting hot at just the right time!

STFU.  Eat crow you fucking asshole and your backhanded compliments.  

Yeesh!

MerryChristmasRock

I don't post much.  I just like to call out assholes when I see them. All that fuck ever did was post about how the Packers aren't that good of a team. He doesn't deserve the right to offer any compliments.  The fuck even had to bring up again how bad the Packers were while trying to compliment the win. Fuck that.  

Troy posted:
Boris posted:
Troy posted:
13X posted:

So nice to finally get a convincing win and especially against those pukes. We haven't had many convincing victories this year. Let's hope they're getting hot at just the right time!

STFU.  Eat crow you fucking asshole and your backhanded compliments.  

Yeesh!

MerryChristmasRock

I don't post much.  I just like to call out assholes when I see them. All that fuck ever did was post about how the Packers aren't that good of a team. He doesn't deserve the right to offer any compliments.  The fuck even had to bring up again how bad the Packers were while trying to compliment the win. Fuck that.  

Lol! Merry Christmas hothead. 

artis posted:
I believe on each of the three turnovers, the offense had decent drives going. They did on at least two. The second half they played much better as a group. I would not have been shocked if Minn came out in the second half and adjusted to the detriment of the GB offense. But they tightened it up and were vg with the mix of run and pass. I think it does beg the question of how much AR played "within the system" relatively in each half. What changed that they were able to sustain drives and create scores? Is Rodgers simply not as sharp during these stretches of poor play by the offense? Was he a bit off his game due to all the looks Zimmer was throwing at him?

That’s the big question, isn’t it? Has Rodgers declined in his ability to see the field, or is it the change, or is Lafleur still putting it all together. Is Rodgers a little punch drunk and skittish, not seeing the first read or the right read because he’s seeing ghosts? Others have said it’s the WRs- but on a frequent basis we see replays where a receiver is open, and he just never looked that way. 

I won’t believe he doesn’t know this stuff. He has to know. Very few in this game have ever been as analytical or subjected themselves to as much scrutiny as Rodgers does. The hope is that it’ll come together as they ride forward for a championship. Sure would be a great time for it to all come together... 

The beauty is that this team is coming together and is NOT dependent upon Rodgers playing lights out to win games.  Rodgers has the ability to play better.  If he elevates his game to another level, this Packer team can win it all.  I'm starting to think that's a real possibility.  

Yes, it isn't the receivers even though Aaron Jones is bigger part of the pass game than half the WR corp.  Like I previously mentioned, McCarren had high praise for GMo's blocking ability.  That's nice. 

The offense as a whole is disjointed.  Mayo was pretty good with the run in his previous stints and it shows.  Mayo also previously mentioned he was still building out the pass game since players (Rodgers) had been in the McVince scheme for 13 years.  I'm starting to think that mentality was a bad idea.  Rip the bandaid off, air out that puss hole of an offensive scheme and move forward.  They aren't getting great results on the current path.  The offense feels like half Mayo and half McVince, which may be Rodgers doing, who knows.  I don't know what Hackett provides at this point but it's pretty clear the pass game needs some rapid evolution. 

All of that said, the WR corp stinks.  I'm glad they are blocking like mad men for Jones and Williams but they should catch some balls too.

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Music City posted:

That’s the big question, isn’t it? Has Rodgers declined in his ability to see the field, or is it the change, or is Lafleur still putting it all together. Is Rodgers a little punch drunk and skittish, not seeing the first read or the right read because he’s seeing ghosts? Others have said it’s the WRs- but on a frequent basis we see replays where a receiver is open, and he just never looked that way. 

I won’t believe he doesn’t know this stuff. He has to know. Very few in this game have ever been as analytical or subjected themselves to as much scrutiny as Rodgers does. The hope is that it’ll come together as they ride forward for a championship. Sure would be a great time for it to all come together... 

When I look at the transition from Favre to Rodgers, the thing that immediately stood out very early on was that Rodgers could be trusted not to kill the team. He's been money with that his entire career. So I agree, he definitely knows and sees things he may not be doing well. I know this year that I'm seeing his "mistakes" through a more critical lens, which may not be all that objective. It's hard to account for throws that in the past were dead accurate that now he's missing by just a hair. It's also very easy to forget in the heat of a game that it's still a system just installed in the last 6-8 months. So while it may never be determined, where is the bulk of their success coming from in terms of system vs AR and his smarts and talent? I know when they find balance, they find rhythm. And during those flashes they can look unstoppable even with the limitations we all see and are concerned about.

Henry posted

The offense as a whole is disjointed.  Mayo was pretty good with the run in his previous stints and it shows.  Mayo also previously mentioned he was still building out the pass game since players (Rodgers) had been in the McVince scheme for 13 years.  I'm starting to think that mentality was a bad idea.  Rip the bandaid off, air out that puss hole of an offensive scheme and move forward.  They aren't getting great results on the current path.  The offense feels like half Mayo and half McVince, which may be Rodgers doing, who knows.  I don't know what Hackett provides at this point but it's pretty clear the pass game needs some rapid evolution. 

 

It is disjointed. And there's a lack of consistent playmaking. I think the thing that gets me leaning away from "the wrs stink" is that we see flashes from every guy. And mostly those plays come from what seems to be system. The quick crosses we've seen from Adams, Lazard, GMO...are vintage Walsh system throws from Montana to Rice, Taylor, etc. These guys are not Cobb and Nelson and J. Jones who created space for Rodgers to work his magic. They no doubt need to upgrade at the position. But I do wonder if maxing out the system type plays from the guys we have isn't just enough to find the balance to win games in January.

We agree- disjointed. Someone said last week- no identity. How great would it be come Feb. to still be wondering wtf that identity is should they get to the big dance? I think looking back on this season no matter how it ends, the real beauty of it might be that they found different ways to fit the opponent and never really settled on "this is what we do." And while it's true that great players make great plays in the biggest moments, we can also look back to 2010 or any other great run and find at least a dozen guys on that roster that true fans know their contribution was vital. That's part of what this team does possess....a shit ton of guys who have contributed. I've been glowing since last night. That was a great performance and it feels like there's a cameraderie on this roster that is special. 

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lambeausouth posted:

+ I’m happy to see Kevin King get a huge momentum changing pick and return. That guy takes more crap than anyone....

Ryan Clark highlighted this play on Sportscenter.
He showed how the Vikes ran that same play, from the same formation, from roughly the same spot on the field in the first game this season, and how King was too slow in recognition and response.
He pointed out King likely recognized the play from film study and put himself in a position to make a play on the ball.
I hope that's true.

Yup I saw him do that. King clearly responded to the play unfolding, because he just hit the jets. If he doesn’t, he’s nowhere near in position.

Cousins never saw him coming over the top, and Diggs let him hear about it after the play. That guaranteed money is making me giggle.

Y’all, Aaron Rodgers isn’t at his elite level. A big part of that is his weapons. The backs are great, as is Adams. Lazard has stepped up, but is he a #2? Geronimo is averaging 8.3 YPC. The neighborhood cat yaks more than Allison. And MVS is catching under 50% of the passes Rodgers throws to him. Outside of Philly (and their receivers are out hurt), show me one receiving group that, top to bottom, Green Bay clearly outperforms right now. It’s not a talent issue with MVS. He’s shown flashes. He’s wildly inconsistent, and disappears too often.

All that said, Aaron Rodgers has 5 INT in the last 31 starts. Favre threw 6 in one playoff game against the Rams. Rodgers might not be at his normal high level right now, but he’s still good. And he’s not going to beat the Packers with costly mistakes. Rodgers doesn’t have to be the guy that carries the to team anymore. Not to say he can’t-he doesn’t HAVE to. 

Let all the talking heads keep doubting us. We don’t win pretty. Well, we’re also an NFL best 8-1 against winning teams. Winning ugly is plenty sexy to me. Just win, baby! 

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Anybody giving the O-Line credit?? They're the reason the Packers are dominating. 

Kicked the Bears ass & now the Vikings. 2 offenses that were playing pretty damn good. 

Boris posted:

Anybody giving the O-Line credit?? They're the reason the Packers are dominating. 

Kicked the Bears ass & now the Vikings. 2 offenses that were playing pretty damn good. 

O-line was tremendous last night and it's been building the last few weeks. It's daunting to think they may be playing their best football heading into the playoffs, especially when you consider they haven't come near their true potential as an offensive unit.

Goldie posted:

About that O Line....who’s the Black with the braids on the O line???  and yes they did an outstanding job.  

Hey Goldie 1866 called and they'd like your thoughts on reconstruction

Goldie posted:
MNPackman posted:

Billy Turner

Thank you.....and really not sure why all the remarks about reconstruction with my Black with the braids question..........he’s Black and has braids....dah.  

"the Black".  You literally capitalized black like it was his name.   Care for some Brazil nuts?

lambeausouth posted:

Y’all, Aaron Rodgers isn’t at his elite level. A big part of that is his weapons. The backs are great, as is Adams. Lazard has stepped up, but is he a #2? Geronimo is averaging 8.3 YPC. The neighborhood cat yaks more than Allison. And MVS is catching under 50% of the passes Rodgers throws to him. Outside of Philly (and their receivers are out hurt), show me one receiving group that, top to bottom, Green Bay clearly outperforms right now. It’s not a talent issue with MVS. He’s shown flashes. He’s wildly inconsistent, and disappears too often.

 

The huge gap between Adams and everybody else in the WR corps is illustrated by the pass Rodgers made to him on about a 15 yard in route with about 6 minutes left in the 4th.  Rhoades was in Adams hip pocket the whole route, the ball was thrown before the break, and Adams caught it.  Adams has the quickness to make the cut, and to ensure Rhoades was still behind him and wouldn't be able to close and break it up.

That was a throw that Rodgers would also make in past years to Cobb or Nelson, who could execute the same route.  I don't think any of the other WR's we have now could make that play,  (or that Rodgers would throw it to them if they were running that same route.)

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Boris posted:

Anybody giving the O-Line credit?? They're the reason the Packers are dominating. 

Kicked the Bears ass & now the Vikings. 2 offenses that were playing pretty damn good. 

Yeah, for both pass and run blocking.  The line dominated.


lovepack posted:

Jaire needs to step up again. Tramon looks solid. Defense was special early. Maybe returning to dominance. This ain't over yet.

Defense special early?

How many yards and first downs did it give up in the second half?

13X posted:

So nice to finally get a convincing win and especially against those pukes. We haven't had many convincing victories this year. Let's hope they're getting hot at just the right time!

So I have to ask.....

Are the Packers still "one & done"? They could be! NFC is tough this year. 

P.S. I like Brazil Nuts

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Henry posted:
Goldie posted:
MNPackman posted:

Billy Turner

Thank you.....and really not sure why all the remarks about reconstruction with my Black with the braids question..........he’s Black and has braids....dah.  

"the Black".  You literally capitalized black like it was his name.   Care for some Brazil nuts?

  Seriously??  Black???  He’s the only Black guy on the O line isn’t he??  What is your problem??  

Henry posted:
Goldie posted:
MNPackman posted:

Billy Turner

Thank you.....and really not sure why all the remarks about reconstruction with my Black with the braids question..........he’s Black and has braids....dah.  

"the Black".  You literally capitalized black like it was his name.   Care for some Brazil nuts?

I used to refer to Jordy as “the Cracker with the crew cut”, so don’t feel bad Goldie.

We just live in an overly sensitive/PC society. 

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Goldie posted:
Henry posted:
Goldie posted:
MNPackman posted:

Billy Turner

Thank you.....and really not sure why all the remarks about reconstruction with my Black with the braids question..........he’s Black and has braids....dah.  

"the Black".  You literally capitalized black like it was his name.   Care for some Brazil nuts?

  Seriously??  Black???  He’s the only Black guy on the O line isn’t he??  What is your problem??  

Have you seriously forgotten the best rookie guard in the league?

Boris posted:
13X posted:

So nice to finally get a convincing win and especially against those pukes. We haven't had many convincing victories this year. Let's hope they're getting hot at just the right time!

So I have to ask.....

Are the Packers still "one & done"? They could be! NFC is tough this year. 

P.S. I like Brazil Nuts

and the Packers could play the queens AGAIN???  Now this makes me ill.  Ugh

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All I know is we didn’t let “The Blacks” in  this forum when Scoop ran the joint.

While they have brought an outstanding sense of rhythm, they are always late joining game threads.

...and they talk to the screen at the movie theatre.

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