How bad was day 1 for the Bears draft? The Queens had a better day.
Two words: Jim Kramer.
IL_Pack_Fan posted:Ted loves his picks, so for grins let's say all ten make the team. Throw in 5 FA additions, and he's overturned 1/3 of the roster that made the NFCC run.
Swapping Lang for Evans is probably a drop, but hopefully a manageable one. TE has clearly been upgraded. WR and RB will be no worse than the groups we saw, and it's reasonable to expect both to be stronger with development and new bodies.
Obviously a lot of questions with the additions on D, but there's really nowhere to go but up. Even if they're still as confused as they were in ATL, they'll at least be running to the wrong spot a heck of a lot faster.
The league loves selling hope to 32 fanbases this time of year, and I'm going to allow myself to eat it up.
I don't think you could try to be worse at CB than Green Bay was by the time they played the NFC Championship game. There is no way they won't be at least somewhat better.
The biggest holes left on the roster are at ILB and OG. If Evans is at least average and not Jeff Saturday reincarnated it's likely the OG downgrade won't hurt them that much. The bigger problem might be ILB where Ryan, Martinez, and Joe Thomas return. Maybe they are going to play Burnett essentially as a LB more and go with a 3-3-5 type of lineup?
Clay is going to play inside some. Wouldn't be surprised to see Biegel slide inside on occasion as well, and Josh Jones has the size and speed to disrupt inside or off the edge.
Wizard's got new toys.
Wizard's got new toys. Illustrated.
Henry posted:I can't ****ing stand it. This league is slow leeching the joy right out of this sport.
NFL says....."You all can just STFU & eat this $#!T sandwich" because with 250,000 people coming to the draft, I'll be 100% floored if it isn't here again next year. Unless Jerry wants to open the pocketbook & pay more to have it at Jerry world.
I've never seen anything like it. On day 1 there was about 100,000 people here. I was worried we wouldn't get out of the draft until 2AM, until I saw 90,000 streaming for the exits after the Eagles 1st round pick.
**** it! We'll watch it live!
excalibur posted:ChilliJon posted:Day after the draft. The Bills fire damn near everyone. GM and the entire pro and college personnel/ scouting departments.
Link.
So those guys stink, and that is why we let them make our draft choices, then we fire them. Dysfunctional. But hey! We're on top of things now.
Supposedly McDermott called the shots for this draft. Or that's the rumor.
antooo posted:Wizard's got new toys.
ChilliJon posted:Day after the draft. The Bills fire damn near everyone. GM and the entire pro and college personnel/ scouting departments.
Link.
Jeebus.
Now we will have to listen to the incessant rumors of Wolf being recruited by them. As if the draft rumors weren't bad enough.... 
You can't grade a draft until years later.
Except for the Vikings and Bears, who both get an F just because.
Orlando Wolf posted:NFL network coverage falling apart
I went to Wisconsin to watch the draft with one of my cousins. Anyway, I thought the draft coverage STUNK!!! We watched the channel where Maylock was commenting. They show the stupid monkey and joke about it from Indy while the Packers traded down - which I saw on the draft tracker but was NEVER reported on the show. So the Packers moved down a couple picks. After the next two teams picked after GB, it's like the woke up and said who the Packers drafted as almost a side note - but nothing more. When I went to this link (click on the video button for each pick) all those people who announced picks were never shown after the Packers 3rd pick. Drivers 2nd pick he announced was never shown. There were some Packer picks I don't think were announced by anyone at all. What a sham! As if that wasn't bad enough, the Eagles fight song was shown incessantly - and a few people did some editorializing like never before - one guy went off on a tirade - by the fourth round I was considering turning it off. So much for my rant.
It was either Maylock or Kiper - and I can't stand Kiper.
Who the f*** is Gil Alcatraz?
He's in a crew with Ron Mexico...
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I've developed a fascination in SPARQ ratings in recent years - a metric that evaluates all of a player's testing numbers against his height/weight to put grade on overall athleticism.
I dug into this year's draft class and was going to make a nice, nerdy post, but this guy did it for me. If it felt like Ted was taking more athletes this year, the numbers definitely back it up. As you'll read, King may be the greatest athlete at the position in the entire league.
Drivers 2nd pick he announced was never shown. There were some Packer picks I don't think were announced by anyone at all. What a sham!
They did show the kid who announced the 7th round (I think) pick. He actually did a decent job. Not Drew Pearson, mind you....
Speaking of announcing, I agree with Peter King: Why does Goodell have to announce all the day 1 picks and a number on day 2? King says a "local legend" from the city/team where the draft is held should announce the picks rather than everyone listening to Goodell get booed. I agree. It gets old hearing him booed...
I'd rather Goodell, or someone from the league office, announce all the damned picks. Screw that waste of time dog-and-pony show, give us the pick, give us some info on the pick, then give us the next pick, and some info on that pick, lather, rinse and repeat. When the orangutan is one of the most charismatic presenters....
I vote for Sean Spicer to announce the picks. If he's unavailable, Melissa McCarthy.
If only Foster Brooks was still alive....can u imagine him trying to pronounce some of those names?
So I'll say go with Frank Caliendo. He can use his Gruden and Madden characters.
Perfect setting for a reincarnation of The Man Show.
Every time the Packers are on the board they can cut to commercials with 'girls on trampolines'.
Goodell should be booed and should quit fondling all the draft picks. He should have an alarm clock that boos him.
Your alarm clock just say 8:00 twice a day, not BOO
My alarm clock never says 8:00 as far as I know. I am already an hour into the workday at that time.
Only an hour? You a part timer? 
IL_Pack_Fan posted:I've developed a fascination in SPARQ ratings in recent years - a metric that evaluates all of a player's testing numbers against his height/weight to put grade on overall athleticism.
I dug into this year's draft class and was going to make a nice, nerdy post, but this guy did it for me. If it felt like Ted was taking more athletes this year, the numbers definitely back it up. As you'll read, King may be the greatest athlete at the position in the entire league.
Good stuff. I love the conclusion: "Now that the 2017 Draft is complete, itâs clear the Packersâ roster should be one of the most explosive ones they have had in recent memory."
I'm excited about this group, and the energy they could give us this season. It'll be nice to be the team with the superior athletes all over the field. We've been lacking in that category for far too long.
So I'll say go with Frank Caliendo. He can use his Gruden and Madden characters.
Robin Leach. The players are about to have their champagne wishes and caviar dreams come true.
The Raiders rolled the dice. And may have come up snake eyes. Stories now changed...and this doesn't look good.
Gareon Conleyâs lawyer claims consensual sex occurred
Posted by Mike Florio on May 1, 2017, 9:19 PM EDT
The ânothing happenedâ defense quickly has evaporated in the Gareon Conley case.
After witnesses in the hotel room where an alleged rape involving the Raiders first-round draft pick occurred last month claimed that Conley and the alleged victim did nothing together, Conleyâs lawyer now admits that Conley and the alleged victim had consensual sex, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media.
That changes everything, contradicting the witness accounts and making the case a matter of he said/she said. This means that prosecutors easily could pursue charges if they so choose, with the case ultimately turning on whether a jury chooses to believe the victim and to disbelieve Conley.
Which means that the Raiders may have drafted a player who eventually will be indicted on first-degree felony charges, which carry a prison term in Ohio three to eight years.
Conley likely had no choice but to admit that which the forensic evidence would have confirmed. The rape kit coupled with the DNA sample Conley provided would have quickly debunked the ânothing happenedâ defense.
Reggie McKenzie you're no Ted Thompson, will Reg get a free pass on this one?
Gareon like most athletes has likely had his ass kissed since 8th grade, of course he did nothing wrong, every woman want to have sex with him. Ezekiel Elliot of course he can kick the crap out of women, Jameis Winston..same
Looking ahead to 2018. The "Suck for Sam" campaign has officially begun. Some of the teams expected to go hard for a QB (Jet's) didn't at all based on this years QB crop. No team really went overboard for a QB this year. Other than the Bears I mean, bless their hearts. And I think the general lack of insane moves for a QB in this years draft has as a lot to do with next years crop. Starting with Sam Darnold.
The "race" to get the number one pick next year is going to be fun. Even for a team that doesn't need a QB. Sam Darnold is either going one or he's going to net a team a gold mine of picks to trade out of that spot. Taking nothing away from Josh Rosen and Josh Allen (likely 1st round QB prospects) barring a catastrophic injury Sam Darnold will be the first pick selected.
Sam started week 4 for a struggling offense in 2016. In the 10 games he started (Freshman) he completed 67.2% of his passes for 3,088 yards 31 TD's and 9 picks. He went 23-33 for 287 with 2 TD's AT Washington against a Sidney Jones, Kevin King, Buddha Baker secondary. And won. And capped off his season with the insane performance against Penn State in the Rose Bowl. 453 yards and 5 TD's.
Maybe he will fall in TTs lap. Goldie your Cali guy goes to Hollywood (literally) and a new hunky Cali guy steps right into your dreams.
The past can be prologue.
ChilliJon posted:Looking ahead to 2018. The "Suck for Sam" campaign has officially begun. Some of the teams expected to go hard for a QB (Jet's) didn't at all based on this years QB crop. No team really went overboard for a QB this year. Other than the Bears I mean, bless their hearts. And I think the general lack of insane moves for a QB in this years draft has as a lot to do with next years crop. Starting with Sam Darnold.
The "race" to get the number one pick next year is going to be fun. Even for a team that doesn't need a QB. Sam Darnold is either going one or he's going to net a team a gold mine of picks to trade out of that spot. Taking nothing away from Josh Rosen and Josh Allen (likely 1st round QB prospects) barring a catastrophic injury Sam Darnold will be the first pick selected.
Sam started week 4 for a struggling offense in 2016. In the 10 games he started (Freshman) he completed 67.2% of his passes for 3,088 yards 31 TD's and 9 picks. He went 23-33 for 287 with 2 TD's AT Washington against a Sidney Jones, Kevin King, Buddha Baker secondary. And won. And capped off his season with the insane performance against Penn State in the Rose Bowl. 453 yards and 5 TD's.
He was monster in that Penn State game. Made all the throws, all the right decisions, all the right reads. If he falls into TT's lap, it's because we somehow ended up at the top of the draft (which I hope never happens).
GBFanForLife posted:Goodell should be booed and should quit fondling all the draft picks. He should have an alarm clock that boos him.
Every time he gets booed, Goodell is probably secretly thinking that the fact he's getting booed instead of some of the awful human beings that are NFL owners is what makes him money. At his current salary, Goodell makes about a $65 a minute, every minute of the year. He makes that to serve as a human shield for people like Dan Synder, Jerry Jones, Jimmy Haslam, etc.
For $33 million/year or whatever he makes, I will gladly get booed and yelled at every time I'm in front of the crowd.
Grave Digger posted:For $33 million/year or whatever he makes, I will gladly get booed and yelled at every time I'm in front of the crowd.
How much do you currently make?
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I thought the standard was 65K
ChilliJon posted:No team really went overboard for a QB this year. Other than the Bears I mean, bless their hearts.
I think Kansas City went overboard or at least very close to it.