2018 Exceeds/Disappoints

Good topic. I agree on Cobb, I think he's going to have a fine year with Graham grabbing a lot of attention.

I think Geronimo is going to be the biggest surprise, he will have A LOT of opportunities and I believe will make the most of them. He's flashed big play ability, but he's not really seen the field enough. He won't replace Jordy, but I think he will be a weapon for us.

I think Aaron Jones, once he returns from suspension, is going to be a real star in this offense in the run and pass game. Pass pro is the weakest area of his game, if he can clean that up I think he's a feature back for us...especially with solid blocking on the edge from ML. 

I think we will be disappointed by the rookie WRs. They each had some splash plays in the preseason, but I don't foresee them making much of a difference unless there's an injury. 

I think the defense, overall, won't make the strides some were expecting. I think they will be improved and will make a lot more plays, BUT I think they're still a couple players away from being elite. Lack of pass rush depth will wear down CM3 and NP come January and lack of quality players at Safety will ultimately be most glaring weakness. 

Exceeds-

Kenny Clark.  He's growing up fast

Disappoints-

Devante Adams.  Those concussions scare me

Exceeds:

Kenny Clark. He's still like 23, but this is his 3rd year and I really feel like this will be a break out year. For one, he's surrounded by a ton of talent along side Daniels and Wilkerson, and for two, he should stay fresh most of the year. Guys like Monty Adams and Lowry will provide great rotation for him. 8+ sacks wouldn't shock me a bit. 

Disappoints: 

Nick Perry. Like CMIII, I'd love to see him exceed and look like 2016.  But seemingly always hurt, I just feel like someone like Reggie Gilbert will eat away at his playing time OR yet another injury will dog him yet again. The good news? The Packers can move on from his 11 million a year bloated salary in 2019/

"I think the defense, overall, won't make the strides some were expecting."

Sorry if this is OT - in a similar vein I'm curious where everyone's patience level is/will be with the new defence.

IMO, it could be 6 weeks (+/-) before we start to see the D put it together. Will fans be climbing on ledges if it takes that long or longer? What's your expectation? 

Exceed: Spriggs (yep, I went there - unfortunately that means he plays because someone is down).

Disappoint: Kevin King, because he'll be hurt again and again not due to talent. 

Regarding Pettine's defense:

I'd said this before. I'll say this again. This is phase 1 of a phase 2 fix. 2018 laid the ground work to fix the secondary and shore up the interior DL. Phase 2 in 2019, in a supposedly deep draft at OLB/DE, will be to fix the pass rush. 

I also think Gute in 2019, if he moves on from Perry/CMIII, will take that cash and go after a free agent pass rusher coupled with one of his 1st round picks.

Patience grasshoppers. Patience. 

Exceeds

Josh Jackson. He’s going to make it impossible to be kept off the field in very short order.

Others: Aaron Jones, Kenny Clark, Valdes-Scantling.

Disappoints

Corey Linsley. He was worked over pretty well in his limited preseason snaps. Something to watch early in the season. 

Others: Perry and Clinton Dix. 

Exceeds

Geronimo:   I think he surpasses Cobb as the #2 WR and has a big year.    

Disappoints

Martinez:  I think he gets too much credit for the tackle numbers as the real contributor to those are the hogs up front.    He's no AJ Hawk or Hawk 2.0 (Ryan) but he isn't a special player either.   Just a guy.   I think MLB gets exposed as the team's weakness in general. 

I don't ****ing know. Who am I supposed to be? Nostradamus?

too early to tell, but from my crystal ball...offense exceeds and the middle of the defense disappoints, can hear the 'need to knock the rust off' comments etc...but i hope i have it all backwards.

A crystal ball, hey? Why didn't I think of that?

Exceeds - Fackrell

Disappoints - Scott 

Exceeds: Jimmy Graham- Really think he will have a special relationship with AR in red zone and otherwise. Go-to-guy. (Thought it would Bennett last year for what it's worth

Disappoints: Mo Wilkerson. Haven't seen anything from #1 Defense intentionally, but I tend to think once a bum always a bum. Will be pleasantly surprised if they bring a ton out of the guy. Excitement has definitely dwindled.

Predicting disappointment 

that's what she said

I guess she has been disappointed for 24 years

Exceeds - Vikings preseason

Disappoints - Vikings postseason

This wasn’t supposed to be limited to just the Packers, right?

Before I even opened this thread the first name that came to mind for exceeds was Allison. With Graham and Adams drawing so much attention, Allison should have many opportunities.

My disappointment, sadly, has to be Perry. He just can't seem to stay healthy.

In all seriousness:

Disappoints:  Adams, Cobb and Graham

Exceeds:  Rookie WRs and UDFA TE

Goalline posted:

I don't ****ing know. Who am I supposed to be? Nostradamus?

That's KneeGrowDamus to you. 

Exceeds

Geronimo:   I think he surpasses Cobb as the #2 WR and has a big year.  - Concur with Brainded

Bonus pick: Aaron Jones, I think he's going to be a workhorse when he returns. 

Disappoints

Hmm.....this is where I wonder if I'm killing it or way off base.

Mike McCarthy....I just have this feeling he's not going to come up with anything innovative this season & rather rely on Rodgers to continue creating magic.

I'll be disappointed if The Pack is not playing in this game next year...at Lambeau.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Goalline posted:

I don't ****ing know. Who am I supposed to be? Nostradamus?

That's KneeGrowDamus to you. 

Exceeds

Geronimo:   I think he surpasses Cobb as the #2 WR and has a big year.  - Concur with Brainded

Bonus pick: Aaron Jones, I think he's going to be a workhorse when he returns. 

Disappoints

Hmm.....this is where I wonder if I'm killing it or way off base.

Mike McCarthy....I just have this feeling he's not going to come up with anything innovative this season & rather rely on Rodgers to continue creating magic.

Exceeds:  Mike McCarthy

Disappoints:  Aaron Rodgers

Exceeds:  Oren Burks (Second Choice: Josh Jones) Pettine uses the speed of the defense and these guys thrive in it.

Disappoints:  Running Game  McCarthy says he is focusing run but abandons it early in games.

I have yet to read about anyone having low enough expectations of Graham to think he could possibly exceed expectations.

Got a feeling Aaron Jones is going to regularly miss games with injuries.  Maybe not the IR kind but the kind that keep him sidelined off and on.

I'll go with Marcedes Lewis exceeding expectations, more as a receiver than blocker.  Graham will draw the extra help from the slot/inside which leaves depth guys trying to cover Lewis.  On top of the fact you really don't know if he's blocking or running a route on any given play.

Wilkerson is calling me from the disappointment column.

Exceeds: Oren Burks, Josh Jackson and Kevin King on Defense. Geronimo Allison and Brian Bulaga on Offense

Disappoints: Ha Ha Clinton Dix on Defense and Ty Montgomery on Offense.

I can see Burks tearing it up in the LB ranks and getting serious consideration for Defensive Rookie of the year along with Josh Jackson, who will win that award. I can see Brian Bulaga have a great comeback year at RT, at least that's what i'm hoping for. Kevin King will be so good that no opposing QB challenges him by throwing the ball to his side of the field. G-MO is ready for a break out season, especially when teams double cover Davante Adams.

HHCD needs to wake up and play a whole lot better than he did last season or else Gute should send him packing. As for Ty Montgomery, he needs to stay healthy. I just have this feeling he will get dinged up often, this season. I hope not, but that's my feeling.

Exceeds

Offense: Williams 

Defense: Gilbert

Disappoints

Offense: Ty (injured again)

Defense: HHCD

Brak posted:

Exceeds:  Mike McCarthy

Disappoints:  Aaron Rodgers

Comedy post of the year.  What does it take for McVince to exceed?  Pay attention?

Exceeds: Oren Burks & Josh Jackson

Disappoints: Ty Montgomery

What I hope doesn't exceed or disappoint is the injuries.  That to me is the one thing holding this team back for a few years now is staying healthy.   To me sooner or later they are due not to have a injury plagued season right?

Anyhow for the players the one that will exceed to me will be Josh Jackson.  By mid season we will be asking ourselves why he wasn't a 1st round pick.

Disappointment?  I will always say defense until I am proven otherwise.

Exceeds : Can't decide between 2 players I've been excited about for a while :  Reggie Gilbert and Montravious Adams

Disappoints : Jimmy Graham. Just think his blocking is too atrocious to hide on a regular basis, plus age could take its toll. Probably depends on how he's used. 

Biggest fear : McCarthy's offense exposing Rodgers. The Offense seems to be reliant on Rodgers "going playground" to make a play successful.  They rarely (it seems) run on the rhythm of a 3 step or 5-step drop. Hopefully adding Philbin creates better balanced Offensive game plans.  

Guy I'm not sure can be trusted  : HaHa Clinton-Dix. Is he just not very good, or is he a pussy ? 

When talking about Dix, always go with pussy.

Packdog posted:

Disappoints : Jimmy Graham. Just think his blocking is too atrocious to hide on a regular basis, plus age could take its toll. Probably depends on how he's used. 

 

Then don't try and hide it and don't expect him to block. Seattle tried that for three years. Ugly results.

I'll bet if you made a "Best Jimmy Graham blocks" video of his 5 years in New Orleans the video would be less than 20 seconds long. 

Comedy post of the year.  What does it take for McVince to exceed? 

Actually sticking with the run?

Rodgers can change the call at any time. Who really is responsible for sticking with the run?????

Not McVince, that's for sure.  That ****ing Rodgers guy makes his life hell.  

Rodgers is silently frustrating MM's agenda and his worst inclinations.  He will keep the team from going off the rails.

Anon Rodgers.

Good to know there are adults in the room. 

I go back to my original point a few weeks ago when I Googled “NFL last Player Coach”

Favre image came up, but then..