On the strip sack play I thought that AR should have stepped up in the pocket, he uncharacteristically didn't feel the pressure to his left and behind.
Upon further review ..... he did step up.
Barnett was the guy who stripped/sacked Rodgers. Barnett should have been ejected for the helmet to helmet on Williams, so he shouldn't have been in the play where Rodgers was stripped of the ball, to begin with. It was the Trevathan helmet to Davante's helmet play all over again! I saw at least two more plays where Barnett tackled Packers by leading with his helmet. Will he get fined? It would have helped if he had been ejected for that hit on Williams.
Regardless of the offense miscues, they still need to shore up the run defense.
ammo posted:BrainDed posted:A 4-3 canât run nickle because that would be 12 men on the field.
Bull. In 1996 the Packers used a 4-3 but played nickle too. They took Koonce or Harris out of the middle and used Mike Prior as the nickle back on 3rd and long as well as other times. How quickly we forget.
Reggie White, Santana Dotson, Gilbert Brown, and Sean Jones might have been the best DL in Packer history and one of the best ever in NFL history.
It makes the back 7 look good in almost all cases.
3-1 is "great and all things considered". But the D's struggles v the run are not something you typically iron out as the season goes on. It usually means the DL is losing thier 1-on-1's. Getting M Adams back will help but there isn't a lot else coming in the way of reinforcements. We'll still win some games but the run D and our lack of playmakers at WR and TE look like achilles right now.
We're still in 1st place.
DH13 posted:3-1 is "great and all things considered". But the D's struggles v the run are not something you typically iron out as the season goes on. It usually means the DL is losing thier 1-on-1's. Getting M Adams back will help but there isn't a lot else coming in the way of reinforcements. We'll still win some games but the run D and our lack of playmakers at WR and TE look like achilles right now.
Yes and no. There are personnel moves they can make to address the run D. They could play Goodson or Summers at ILB instead of playing Redmond as a 5th DB.
If the trend continues, I think you have to do that as well as bring Savage up and tell your CB's they are on their own, go win it.
Their CBs should be able to match up against most Os so crowding the box for running teams (Dallas) should be in the plans.
Not saying thereâs a legitimate argument Dexter Williams should have been inactive Thursday night. I personally think he should be active every game behind Jones and J Williams.
It could be Iâm still trying to wrap my head around 4 passes from the 1. I get if Graham hauls one in itâs a nonsense hindsight point Iâm trying to make. But you have to give Jones a carry and maybe a bowling ball like D Williams if he were active.
If they were going to throw 3 or 4 times from the one, 3 or 4 of the throws should have gone to Graham since Adams was on the sideline.
BrainDed posted:DH13 posted:3-1 is "great and all things considered". But the D's struggles v the run are not something you typically iron out as the season goes on. It usually means the DL is losing thier 1-on-1's. Getting M Adams back will help but there isn't a lot else coming in the way of reinforcements. We'll still win some games but the run D and our lack of playmakers at WR and TE look like achilles right now.
Yes and no. There are personnel moves they can make to address the run D. They could play Goodson or Summers at ILB instead of playing Redmond as a 5th DB.
If the trend continues, I think you have to do that as well as bring Savage up and tell your CB's they are on their own, go win it.
I don't really see those as reinforcements. Goodson is already playing on running downs. Maybe bringing Savage up but you're gambling with fire there and Pettine sounds like he will always side with pass defense before run defense.
Interesting how CHI completely shut MIN down even though Hicks and Roquan were out.
Chicago stopped Cook because they had an ILB that was plugging holes faster than a male porn star hopped up on meth.
Martinez is not a downhill ILB. He's a reactionary guy. So his 15 tackles looks great on the stat sheet. Not one of those was for a loss. Kwiatkoski meanwhile had a sack and two tackles for losses. And fuck Chicago for finding these ILB's that just keep fucking falling out of the draft in later rounds that are actually good.
ChilliJon posted:Not saying thereâs a legitimate argument Dexter Williams should have been inactive Thursday night. I personally think he should be active every game behind Jones and J Williams.
It could be Iâm still trying to wrap my head around 4 passes from the 1. I get if Graham hauls one in itâs a nonsense hindsight point Iâm trying to make. But you have to give Jones a carry and maybe a bowling ball like D Williams if he were active.
Everyone is forgetting that Jones had a TD run from the 3 in the 1st quarter. The week before that he snuck through a tiny hole for a TD from the 4.
The guy has short yardage skills. It was egregious but i have faith that MLF will learn from it and be better moving forward in more important games.
DH13 posted:BrainDed posted:DH13 posted:3-1 is "great and all things considered". But the D's struggles v the run are not something you typically iron out as the season goes on. It usually means the DL is losing thier 1-on-1's. Getting M Adams back will help but there isn't a lot else coming in the way of reinforcements. We'll still win some games but the run D and our lack of playmakers at WR and TE look like achilles right now.
Yes and no. There are personnel moves they can make to address the run D. They could play Goodson or Summers at ILB instead of playing Redmond as a 5th DB.
If the trend continues, I think you have to do that as well as bring Savage up and tell your CB's they are on their own, go win it.
I don't really see those as reinforcements. Goodson is already playing on running downs. Maybe bringing Savage up but you're gambling with fire there and Pettine sounds like he will always side with pass defense before run defense.
Interesting how CHI completely shut MIN down even though Hicks and Roquan were out.
Watching the all-22 now and they had Amos in the box all day with Redmond deep. Goodson didn't see the field until Redmond got hurt and then they moved Amos back.
The problem appears to be we have garbage on the D line save for Clark. Lowry, Lancaster and Brown all got abused. Clark was okay.
I'll post some screen captures later on.
Agreed Lowry and Lancaster are getting pushed around too much. Not sure there's a good answer on the roster but maybe give 52 some snaps at DE? Keeke doesn't seem to be an answer right now.
This D is built and designed to stop the pass. I'm not saying Pettine has completely ignored the run but stopping the pass has been his MO from day 1.
BrainDed posted:ChilliJon posted:Not saying thereâs a legitimate argument Dexter Williams should have been inactive Thursday night. I personally think he should be active every game behind Jones and J Williams.
It could be Iâm still trying to wrap my head around 4 passes from the 1. I get if Graham hauls one in itâs a nonsense hindsight point Iâm trying to make. But you have to give Jones a carry and maybe a bowling ball like D Williams if he were active.
Everyone is forgetting that Jones had a TD run from the 3 in the 1st quarter. The week before that he snuck through a tiny hole for a TD from the 4.
The guy has short yardage skills. It was egregious but i have faith that MLF will learn from it and be better moving forward in more important games.
Not only did he have a TD run in the 1st quarter. He had this run inside the 10 with under a min to play. This was the play before the game ending pick.
Running Jones behind Jenkins on the previous trip inside the 5 should have been called at least twice.
Alex Light is a liability. This is just a portion of his suck.
Accomplishes nothing. Play blown up.
Another stellar run block
Where you going Alex?
If Rodgers has another second, this is a 70 yard TD.
Here are some samples of the Run D. Common theme is Lowry and Lancaster getting abused. Notice it's mostly Amos in the box as the nickle back. Next time I'll notate down and distance, but this was mostly 1st and 2nd down.
Watch Lowry get folded.
The phrase I could run through that hole gets used to often... But I could run through that fucking hole. Lowry ends up on his ass again.
Clark doubled, Martinez picks wrong hole.
More stellar run D from the boys up front.
Lowry hesitates and gets destroyed by TD crack back. This leaves Amos on an island against a LT.
Fackrell and Lancaster get washed in. Amos has to keep the edge.
1st and 10 from the 1 in the 4th quarter. No problem, just wash out the entire line.
Next play in the drive. Lowry getting washed out again. He literally looks like he is on skates..lol
damn, that's a lot of suck going on in those clips
Said it post game, Lowry and Lancaster were on skates much of the game.
Not only is Philly's O-line impressive but they ran some nice concepts too. A couple of WHAM concepts where the DE needs to be more aware. Essentially trapped the DE and then ear-holed him with a TE coming down stream.
Really good scheme, cause if you load up like Pettine did to stop their worrisome TE's in the passing game, they will jam it down your throat. Good work by the ex-clipboard holder.
Put me down as a Grassy Knoll conspiracy guy, but I think the officials got the word from the NFL to give the Eagles some help.
Not saying the Pack played great, but the officiating mishaps and not ejecting the player for the helmet to helmet hit was impossible to overcome.
I hate Jim Schwarz. He's a punk with short man's syndrome, and as likely to be as dirty as that Saints DC was in the Bountygate scandal.
Y A, a proud member of the grassy knoll, black helicopter and Elvis lives camp, you are awarded a tinfoil hat. Wear it with pride.
NFL is all about $$$$ today. Philly is a major market, and ratings for Cowboy showdown will tank if the Eagles are in the toilet.
In 2019 it would be wildly irresponsible for a team to not expect a number of calls go against them. Blatantly wrong calls. Itâs going to happen. Every week. It is what it is. Expect the worst. Be ready to play around it.
Conspiracy theories are for conspiracy theorists. Itâs not reality though.
If only we could put slo mo instant replay away.
Unless of course when things go our way.
Lowry has played pretty damn good football 3 out of 4 games. The Eagle o-line kicked the shit out of our entire front.
Philly has a great OL. If you run for more yards than you pass and win you know the slobs up front get a steak dinner from the QB.
You are in every game if you have a great OL. That NFL truth is never going to change. Ever.
Last time GB was a legitimate NFC threat the OL was Bak, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga. Thatâs no coincidence.
YATittle posted:NFL is all about $$$$ today. Philly is a major market, and ratings for Cowboy showdown will tank if the Eagles are in the toilet.
Jesus âĶ.q
Packers/Bears got higher ratings than the Atlanta/Philly season opener last year.
So the Packers bring in better ratings than Philly, and if the refs should be favoring anybody it should be GB.
Fedya posted:Packers/Bears got higher ratings than the Atlanta/Philly season opener last year.
So the Packers bring in better ratings than Philly, and if the refs should be favoring anybody it should be GB.
Pack was 3-0 and their fans watch even if the season's in the toilet like last year.
Packers were 3-0 when they played the Bears in the opening game?
Pack was 3-0 going against Philly. NFL thinks who cares if they lose
We just plain got outplayed in the trenches is the bottom line IMO. No conspiracy that I see. We were dominated on both lines. I'm not saying the Eagles are better than us, but they were definitely better in this game.
YATittle posted:Pack was 3-0 going against Philly. NFL thinks who cares if they lose
How many people in 'New York' were in on this decision? How many people on the various football fields across the land ( because after all it couldn't be just the Packer game that was fixed) had to make bogus calls?
Pikes Peak posted:YATittle posted:Pack was 3-0 going against Philly. NFL thinks who cares if they lose
How many people in 'New York' were in on this decision? How many people on the various football fields across the land ( because after all it couldn't be just the Packer game that was fixed) had to make bogus calls?
As someone who remembers the bogus Game Six of the NBA Finals that was stolen from the Sacramento Kings to benefit the league and, coincidentally, the Lakers, I have to say all it takes is a few bad decisions to turn a game. And certainly the fool in New York who didn't see DPI on that challenged call is one.
Philly had 3 games of tape to figure out the way to attack GB is go big and heavy and run the ball down their throats. The Packers donât have a lot of beef up front and the hybrid DB playing instead of a true ILB puts you at a disadvantage physically.
Not that having Burks healthy will solve their issues but teams get paid to game plan as well.
Tschmack posted:Philly had 3 games of tape to figure out the way to attack GB is go big and heavy and run the ball down their throats. The Packers donât have a lot of beef up front and the hybrid DB playing instead of a true ILB puts you at a disadvantage physically.
Not that having Burks healthy will solve their issues but teams get paid to game plan as well.
This is true.