Used to be 5104. Alas, as I age I'm probably closer to 5100 now or 5097. Getting old sucks out loud for multiple reasons.
@Ghost of Lambeau posted:Yes, I know - but someone should tell them. After all, even Vegas wants to be right once and a while. Besides, all anyone outside GB knows is that the Packers did not draft a WR.
Considering the Packers are bringing in a scrub parade to take Funchess spot I can see why the idea is there. As you pointed out, real world issues can derail the odds.
The way this team is loading up on FB/HB Rodgers may lead the league in 10 yard dumpers.
@Blair Kiel posted:So most guys here would be 5070 and 248 lbs?
Weird......must have a spy camera behind my mirrors
@Henry posted:Considering the Packers are bringing in a scrub parade to take Funchess spot I can see why the idea is there. As you pointed out, real world issues can derail the odds.
The way this team is loading up on FB/HB Rodgers may lead the league in 10 yard dumpers.
Time to re-sign Najeh Davenport I guess.
The #Raiders are signing veteran DL and former first-round pick Datone Jones, per source.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) August 12, 2020
Bengals sign Mike Daniels to 1 year contract.
Could be as much as $2.7M, but I'm betting it's not. 
Did they have to sign a separate contract with his mouth or were they bundled together?
@Timmy! posted:Bengals sign Mike Daniels to 1 year contract.
Could be as much as $2.7M, but I'm betting it's not.
He'll probably say Zach Taylor is even more of a genius than Matt Patricia.
The #49ers & star TE George Kittle are in agreement on a 5-year, $75M extension, sources tell me & @MikeSilver, one that gives him more than half of it in guarantees. Language is being worked on, but numbers are there. One of their top players, this was a big-time priority 💰💰💰
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 13, 2020
Whiners have a fuck ton of money tied up in about 5 players.
mostly good players too. smert. kittle is an animal.
That's going to be a tough contract to swallow if Jimmy Cousins doesn't get his shit together.
Hours after Chongo reported, George Kittle signed a record-setting $75 million contract, Travis Kelce also agreed to a long-term deal. His pact is four years worth $57 million.
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Earl Thomas the new Antonio Brown?
These clowns seriously have to stop believing their press clippings.
That escalated quickly https://t.co/eBALciaIaH
— trey wingo (@wingoz) August 23, 2020
Thomas developed bad habits in Seattle, and Baltimore should have known better. He's going to have a $5M cap hit this year, and $10M next year IF (big if) they don't have to pay his signing bonus. History shows teams don't fare well (Martellus Bennett, anyone?).
@Henry posted:Earl Thomas the new Antonio Brown?
These clowns seriously have to stop believing their press clippings.
It's the same underlying problem for these guys as it probably was for LeVeon Bell and many others over the years. Antonio Brown and Earl Thomas are both HOF candidates for the on-field performance. They both made good money, but not like Russell Wilson or Big Ben. QBs are in the 30-35 million range right now and these guys were at least as good at their positions as Wilson and Big Ben, but Seattle kept Earl Thomas at 8 million a year and refused to extend him and then he breaks his leg. He finally gets his money from the Ravens, but then falls apart there.
These guys are so good the original team puts up with their attitudes (and because they have them for fairly cheap). Then, they finally get paid once they are on the slight downside of their career but they can't get past the bitterness. And they aren't in the primes anymore, so the new teams moves on. It happens to a lot of non-QBs.
An extreme case, pay all 53 player 30 mill. That equals nearly 1.6 billion. Try fitting that under a 200 mill cap.
I don't think some of these players have any sense of money. They just think that they are owed the money for showing up. Still 8 mill a year for a few years can set a person up for a nice retirement.
@Ghost of Lambeau posted:An extreme case, pay all 53 player 30 mill. That equals nearly 1.6 billion. Try fitting that under a 200 mill cap.
I don't think some of these players have any sense of money. They just think that they are owed the money for showing up. Still 8 mill a year for a few years can set a person up for a nice retirement.
These guys get to where they are based on superior athletic talent but also because they are often pathologically driven to be the best at whatever they set out to do - and that includes making the most money. It's probably not the money, it's the fact that someone else is making more than them is the issue.
It amuses me that some people have a problem with how much money athletes make but don't ever complain about entertainers. Adam Sandler is worth 420 million dollars and still has a number of earning years left in him. You really think that he has to work as hard as professional athletes to stay employed?
I do wonder with some of these guys (Antonio Brown and now Earl Thomas) if concussions have impacted their behaviors and impulse control. I mean, you have to be slightly crazy to play a game that scrambles your brain on a regular basis. Those two guys have either delivered or received a lot of head shots over the years.
@Tschmack posted:I do wonder with some of these guys (Antonio Brown and now Earl Thomas) if concussions have impacted their behaviors and impulse control. I mean, you have to be slightly crazy to play a game that scrambles your brain on a regular basis. Those two guys have either delivered or received a lot of head shots over the years.
I have a close friend that knew Antonio Brown from playing football with him at Central Michigan. He said Brown was like this as an 18-year old arriving on campus. He had a terrible childhood and doesn't trust anyone. CMU had graduate assistants assigned to him to make sure he actually at least went through the motions of attending class and stayed out of trouble. He's the type of kid that probably would have been dead or in jail by now except for the fact that he was a tremendous athlete. He was basically homeless at 16. All this despite the fact his father (Eddie Brown) was voted as the greatest player in Arena Football League history. In other words, his Dad (who had very little to do with him after the age of 10) would have been the perfect slot receiver in today's NFL.
https://sportytell.com/america...hen%20he%20was%2016.
Earl Thomas is a much different case.
https://www.baltimoreravens.co...ow-about-earl-thomas
Thomas is just mailing it in. The reason the fight happened is because the other guy was pissed Thomas was dogging it. He made it to the Probowl on name recognition but he gave up huge plays last year and basically has been anything but a team guy since he got to Baltimore. He cashed a check.
@FLPACKER posted:It amuses me that some people have a problem with how much money athletes make but don't ever complain about entertainers. Adam Sandler is worth 420 million dollars and still has a number of earning years left in him. You really think that he has to work as hard as professional athletes to stay employed?
I am not one who complains about how much money these guys make. They can make as much as they can for all I care. Professional sports, after all, is entertainment too. But my only point is that in the NFL there is this little detail called the salary cap. Not everyone is going to be as happy money wise as they want.
So he ends his Seattle career by flipping off his head coach and his short Baltimore by sucker punching a teammate.
Enjoy your time in Dallas or Vegas, Earl.
@Timmy! posted:Thomas developed bad habits in Seattle, and Baltimore should have known better. He's going to have a $5M cap hit this year, and $10M next year IF (big if) they don't have to pay his signing bonus. History shows teams don't fare well (Martellus Bennett, anyone?).
I would be surprised if The Raven's DON"T have to pay Thomas as well. Earl sounds like a head case who's warts got covered up some by the fact that he was surrounded with a terrific defense and coached by one in Carroll that really knows how to maximize defenses and kept him in check.
I get he was miffed about breaking his leg with what he felt was a pile of money on the table he wouldn't see.
But this is also about the position he plays. He's not a franchise QB. Or an elite pass rusher. Or a premier OT. Or a Pro Bowl CB or WR. He's down the salary rung piled in with the TE's, RB's, Guards, etc.
Case in point? About 2 years ago. That FA period saw a slew of pretty damn good safeties who sat in FA a loooong time before getting signed. I have no doubt that soured Thomas as well who figured he'd be paid far more.
Agreed, p'boi.
The biggest turn-off for me is when a player puts himself ahead of his team. Salary becomes the focal point rather than how he contributes to the team--and his teammates--and the results are typically not good for either.
No matter how "great" a player may be, it takes teammates to put them in that position.
With every great player, at some point the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Earl Thomas is sounding like a lemon.
I just hope he doesn't destroy the good character of the locker room in Dallas.
@Henry posted:Thomas is just mailing it in. The reason the fight happened is because the other guy was pissed Thomas was dogging it. He made it to the Probowl on name recognition but he gave up huge plays last year and basically has been anything but a team guy since he got to Baltimore. He cashed a check.
Another reason I hate the ProBowl. Name recognition counts more than how you played, in many cases.
He's been watching tape of Haha Clinton-Dix
@Blair Kiel posted:I just hope he doesn't destroy the good character of the locker room in Dallas.
Which reminds me, any good soundbites from Dallas yet? Any talk of "Cowboy people" or "stacking success"?
Better yet, was there a mission statement posted when he was hired and did anyone screen shot it before it was pulled down and edited?
@michiganjoe posted:Bears cut Trevor Davis.
Can he play WR?
MM has mentioned Jerry is in charge at every presser when personnel questions come up.
@GreenBayLA posted:Can he play WR?
That would be a "no".
Cordarrelle Patterson, redux.
Couple of ILBs that are UFAs that wouldn't necessarily cost a bunch and may play on a 1-yr deal. Not certain if there's particular reasons such as injury, opt-out, attitude, whatever. But these guys might be an upgrade to Burks or the other guy and play in a 3-4 scheme:
Preston Brown - only 27, has a bunch of starting experience and can play run and pass effectively; Pack has the Smith Bros going after the QB, maybe they could have the Preston Boys locking down the TEs
Wesley Woodyard - he's old as f**k but has has experience and didn't play too many snaps last year; better days behind him but could at a little depth and leadership
Mark Barron - is 30, but would cost a bit more; might take a discount for a 1 year prove it deal; not getting younger but still young enough and experienced enough to have an impact
Leonard Fournette cut by Jags...what a tropical factory of sadness the Jags are.