Curious what the compensation would be...at least a 1st right? Acquiring Hopkins would be an “all-in” type of move. You’re getting an all-pro at the prime of his career on a surprisingly reasonable contract compared to his skill level. Also removes a huge draft need, allowing you to stock up on trench players.
Green Bay, Washington and Cleveland are in play for TE Austin Hooper, per sources. He's going to get paiddd
— Jonathan Jones (@jjones9) March 16, 2020
Grave Digger posted:Curious what the compensation would be...at least a 1st right? Acquiring Hopkins would be an “all-in” type of move. You’re getting an all-pro at the prime of his career on a surprisingly reasonable contract compared to his skill level. Also removes a huge draft need, allowing you to stock up on trench players.
It wouldn't shock me if the Texans demanded 2 1st's actually. He's just 27. He's had 6 out of his last 7 seasons with >1000 yards receiving and double digit TD's 2 out of his last 3 seasons. He's in his prime.
Hopkins and Adams would be ridiculous and a nightmare even for top tier defenses. Couple them with Aaron Jones (including his ability as an outstanding pass catching RB). AR would have silly amounts of options.
And yes, I think this would be an "all in" type situation for Rodgers and the Packers. It's a 3 year realistic window with AR playing at a high level. I could see Gutey pushing chips into the table, but I don't know if it's this year and if it's a deal like trading for Hopkins.
A surprise: the #Vikings have franchise tagged S Anthony Harris, either keeping him in Minnesota or allowing them to trade him. Maybe the top FA safety won’t be free.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 16, 2020
Hopkins existing contract is LUDICROUS. 3 years of Hopkins at <$14M per. Good lord.
I would give up a 1st + 2nd, etc. without thinking twice about it. 3 years of this guy is the perfect window for AR. Giving up back to back 1st rounders would be a longer thought process, but still.
#Falcons free agent TE Austin Hooper, the top player at his position, is headed to the #Browns, per @TomPelissero, @MikeSilver and me. They’ve agreed to terms, he’s the new highest-paid TE.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 16, 2020
Being told Teddy Bridgewater working deal with CHI @929TheGame
— Paul Crane (@PaulCrane7) March 16, 2020
The Draft picture might be getting a little clearer with GB...having veterans at ILB and RT, albeit not superstars, gives them flexibility to pick the BPA almost regardless of position. That doesn’t preclude either of those positions, certainly depth at both is atrocious, but it gives them flexibility to wait for veteran cuts or trade opportunities to shore up those positions if we see elite players at other positions fall. We were kind of locked into ILB and RT before the draft. Honestly nothing is off the table right now in R1, maybe STs.
So one year after breaking the bank on veteran free agents, the Packers are now signing veteran free agents BEFORE actual free agency begins and they are not overpaying for one of their own mediocre players (Martinez) but rather letting him walk.
Hard to overstate just how differently Gutey is operating than Ted Thompson did when it comes to free agency.
Hopkins1 Re my Hopkins note, this is what I wrote: - It might be just pre-draft chatter, but 2 teams told me to watch Houston and DeAndre Hopkins, who has 3 years and a reasonable $40-million left on his contract and who'd cause only a $3m cap hit if traded ...
Hopkins2
— Peter King (@peter_king) March 16, 2020
Houston is currently in draft hell, without a top-50 pick in 2020 and 2021, and coach Bill O’Brien has huge needs to fill on his offensive line, in the secondary and overall youth on the front seven; J.J. Watt and Whitney Mercilus will play this year at 31 and 30 ...
Saw someone on twitter mention GB would be involved in Amari Cooper sweepstakes now that Hooper is gone (as if those options are comparable). I will believe it when I see it, sounds like a classic case of agent fuckery in the media.
Hopkins goes to Arizona for David Johnson and draft compensation
Oh well
@AdamSchefter: Texans are trading DeAndre Hopkins to Arizona, per source.
Cardinals get: WR DeAndre Hopkins and a 4th-round pick.
Texans get: RB David Johnson, a second-round pick and a 2021 fourth-round pick.
Can we include Gary in a trade for Hopkins. Gary and this years first.
Wow that's a steal for Arizona. 3 years of a top 3-4 WR for a RB that's been injured a ton lately and two non 1st round picks.
Damn.
I don't know how the Whiners can keep paying these DL all this money.
The #49ers are giving star DL Arik Armstead a 5-year deal, sources say, avoiding the franchise tag and locking him up long-term. He gets up to $85M on his new deal.💰💰💰
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 16, 2020
SteveLuke posted:So one year after breaking the bank on veteran free agents, the Packers are now signing veteran free agents BEFORE actual free agency begins and they are not overpaying for one of their own mediocre players (Martinez) but rather letting him walk.
Hard to overstate just how differently Gutey is operating than Ted Thompson did when it comes to free agency.
We figured you would overstate it considering that's all you talk about.
looks like Atlanta is gettign Haden Hurst from Baltimore in a trade. Per ADam S
So, the Packers get one Christian and one Lion. Are you not entertained?
whiners send deforest buckner to colts for their #1
Chongo posted:I don't get it...he's a good player, but in the twilight of his career.
The #Bengals informed star WR A.J. Green they're placing the franchise tag on him, per source.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 16, 2020
Can't trade a free agent.
michiganjoe posted:Browns release Morgan Burnett.
I'm surprised he was still in the league. I thought he was terrible in Green Bay. He was AJ Hawk without the splash plays.
It is not possible to overstate how horrible that trade is for the Texans. Bill O Brien should be sent to Gitmo.
A top 3 WR with 3 years left on an unbelievably cap and team friendly contract for a 28 year old RB that had 1 nice year 3 years ago and was significantly outplayed by Kenyan Drake. Duke Johnson is better and cheaper than Johnson at this point.
If Arizona simply swapped the 4ths and the Texans took Johnson and his contract off their hands, I'd say AZ won that trade.
It's absolutely MIND BOGGLING that 1) any team got a top 3 WR for so little and 2) that no other team offered more?
Floridarob posted:whiners send deforest buckner to colts for their #1
Colts gave him a five-year extension worth $21 million per.
If the Niners' Buckner is worth $21 million per year, how much is Kenny Clark going to get?
— Bill Huber (@BillHuberSI) March 16, 2020
Timpranillo posted:Wow that's a steal for Arizona. 3 years of a top 3-4 WR for a RB that's been injured a ton lately and two non 1st round picks.
Damn.
And they got to dump Johnson's 10M contract on Houston.
I'm not getting it. I know O'Brien didn't like Hopkins and wanted him gone but that was the best they could do? A broken, expensive RB, a 2nd and swapping 4th rounders in 20 and 21?
I'd have given a GBs first straight up. Houston could have turned that into three or four other picks.
AtTheMurph posted:michiganjoe posted:Browns release Morgan Burnett.
I'm surprised he was still in the league. I thought he was terrible in Green Bay. He was AJ Hawk without the splash plays.
Burnett was the typical mediocre Packer defensive player in the last decade who kept his mouth shut and got paid mostly because Ted drafted them and because Ted was never going to make a trade or sign a FA to replace them with another veteran.
Brad Jones, Hawk, Nick Perry, Burnett, yuck.
AtTheMurph posted:Timpranillo posted:Wow that's a steal for Arizona. 3 years of a top 3-4 WR for a RB that's been injured a ton lately and two non 1st round picks.
Damn.
And they got to dump Johnson's 10M contract on Houston.
I'm not getting it. I know O'Brien didn't like Hopkins and wanted him gone but that was the best they could do? A broken, expensive RB, a 2nd and swapping 4th rounders in 20 and 21?
I'd have given a GBs first straight up. Houston could have turned that into three or four other picks.
Fans (and probably lots of GMs) of 30 other teams are screaming that they'd have given up way for for him.
Bill O’Brien has turned
- DeAndre Hopkins
- Jadeveon Clowney
- 2020 4th rounder (131st overall)
Into
- Gareon Conley
- David Johnson
- Jacob Martin
- Barkevious Mingo 2020
- 2nd rounder (40th overall)
- 2021 4th rounder
Maybe its time to start drug testing GM's
from reddit: The Texans woke up today without a first-round pick. They traded Deandre Hopkins. And still don't have a first-round pick.
michiganjoe posted:Floridarob posted:whiners send deforest buckner to colts for their #1
Colts gave him a five-year extension worth $21 million per.
If the Niners' Buckner is worth $21 million per year, how much is Kenny Clark going to get?
— Bill Huber (@BillHuberSI) March 16, 2020
That’s kinda scary. I assumed Clark would not get anything near that.
I would not say we are out of the market for ilb at all. we are taking a 'flyer' on kirksey, when i see this kind of stuff, makes me worried a little, now if we can re-kindle some of that fire, we got something. i still think they are in the game, either a high draft pick or fa: - from cbs sports:
'Cleveland's defense gave up over 400 yards of total offense in all seven games Kirksey played in, and gave up 400 yards of total offense just once in the other nine games when Kirksey was sidelined.'
That last statement is beyond an exponential fucking leap. Yes, one guy, particularly a LB is responsible for 400 yards of offense. Do the amount of yards correlate with a win or loss or were they all losses? Let's also not look at who/what/where these games occurred. I hate that lazy fucking shit reporting.
The guy is a pretty safe flyer and the contract bears it out. Cleveland only let him go because they had to with his contract. Sounds like they weren't over eager to get rid of him.
He's one guy at ILB. I don't think it's a matter of being done shopping for ILB rather money and availability. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple guys drafted.
I think both of our FA signings are smart. You can still shop, but aren't forced to over pay for someone because you don't have anyone at that position.
Henry posted:That last statement is beyond an exponential fucking leap. Yes, one guy, particularly a LB is responsible for 400 yards of offense. Do the amount of yards correlate with a win or loss or were they all losses? Let's also not look at who/what/where these games occurred. I hate that lazy fucking shit reporting.
The guy is a pretty safe flyer and the contract bears it out. Cleveland only let him go because they had to with his contract. Sounds like they weren't over eager to get rid of him.
He's one guy at ILB. I don't think it's a matter of being done shopping for ILB rather money and availability. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple guys drafted.
I think it will be Linebacker and a strong safety/hybrid guy.