Two more OL signed:
Based upon solid scientific research I'm sure.
Draft grades are useless. About as useless as the 2022 mock drafts that will be released this week. Remember, Mel Kiper gave the Packers a "C" in 2005, which was his lowest grade. He gave the Bears an A- for drafting Cedric Benson at #4.
Since my opinion carries exactly the same amount of weight as any of these dipsticks, I'll give us an A+ to offset one of those F grades.
Bears in the top spot. Ridiculous
I agree about draft grades being useless; Packer received an F here but the comments about Gute are interesting (and somewhat valid IMO). He also compares TJ Slaton to Kyrie Thornton
https://www.nbcsports.com/edge...fc-snap-draft-grades
Packers GM Brian Gutekunst appears to be in over his head. Last year, with a Super Bowl contending roster and only one glaring need -- receiver -- Gutekunst elected to trade up in R1 to select QB Jordan Love, a raw developmental dice-roll of a quarterback coming off a 17-interception season in the Mountain West. In last yearโs snap grades, I called that decision โbizarre, organizationally.โ With QB Aaron Rodgers reportedly unwilling to return to the Packers under Gutekunst, Gutey is facing loaded revolvers from both sides that he himself loaded for reasons that remain unclear: Unload Rodgers in order to save his job, almost assuredly on a discount; or call his bluff and put the organization to a decision -- a plan that, even if it works and both he and Rodgers are in Green Bay next fall, seems assured of alienating the prickly Rodgers and dividing the locker room while leaving last yearโs R1 pick, Love, to rot on the bench. Last draft, following the Love pick, Gutey continued to eschew position need -- no receivers were taken whatsoever -- but did so with a series of bizarre reaches. There wasnโt a flashy, controversial pick to light up talk radio this time around. And Gutey even more or less attempted to address his positions of need. But he seems to have a habit of zeroing in on specific prospects and targeting them with pre-delineated picks, not only missing the potential to steal prospects who are falling, but locking himself into over-picking. For instance, he finally did get around to that receiver need with 3.85, but bizarrely took Amari Rogers, a glorified running back in the Ty Montgomery mold that only catches screen passes and the like. Gutekunstโs decisions in the last two drafts have ironically put him on his own sort of shot clock. His predecessor is going to step into a situation far worse than he did barring a rabbit-in-the-hat revelation of Love turning out to be a star.
@CUPackFan posted:Draft grades are useless.
Read this....Chad Reuter explains HIS grades
https://packers.timesfour.com/...9#671518794499162499
Chad has sound analysis. I like it & I admit it's probably because I've hung out with him & had dinner.
Henry... I dug a little deeper into that issue with DT Nixon from Iowa and found out the, "alleged" incident with him happened clear back in 2018 while he was in the transfer portal. It didn't end up amounting to anything. I could be wrong but I think the Panthers got an absolute steal with drafting him in the mid-5th RD. His RAS was 8.33 or somewhere around that area which tested like 216th best out of around 1,100 DTs that have ever been graded. Dude ran a 4.9 40.
His sample size was small since he only started 8 games this past year, but he led the B1G in TFLs, tied for 1st in sacks, and was named the B1G DPOY. I have no idea why he fell so far but I wish we would have picked him up.
Yeah, he seemed like he was getting a lot of positive press and moving up the boards. He sounds like a better fit for a 4-3 so I'm thinking the Panthers did get a deal.
@Boris posted:Read this....Chad Reuter explains HIS grades
https://packers.timesfour.com/...9#671518794499162499
Chad has sound analysis. I like it & I admit it's probably because I've hung out with him & had dinner.
Whore.
The FO is dysfunctional. I hope the board fires or shifts Murphy to something not related to personnel. We need a CEO that delegates football matters to the GM, who then works with MLF. A different GM would be likely to follow a new CEO.
Except will a new coach follow a new GM...
@Boris posted:Read this....Chad Reuter explains HIS grades
https://packers.timesfour.com/...9#671518794499162499
Chad has sound analysis. I like it & I admit it's probably because I've hung out with him & had dinner.
On a date?๐
@EC Pack posted:Except will a new coach follow a new GM...
Usually. I donโt want that to happen. Not sure how the board could finesse that one without sending the message that the new CEO and GM donโt, in fact, have enough power to do their jobs the way they need to. The org is in a shaky situation, by the looks of it.
We are back in the pre-Harlan days right now with our "silos."
Just stupid. As a shareholder, I'll be voting my proxy against every board member unless some of them dump What Me Murphy.
@mr21mr21 posted:Packers GM Brian Gutekunst appears to be in over his head. Last year, with a Super Bowl contending roster and only one glaring need -- receiver --
That 1 glaring need kept them from the #1 seed in the NFC. Kept them from the NFCCG, and was the reason the didn't make the Owl. Oh wait, none of that is true.
FFS
It's not a sexual LOVE, is it?
@Boris posted:Read this....Chad Reuter explains HIS grades
https://packers.timesfour.com/...9#671518794499162499
Chad has sound analysis. I like it & I admit it's probably because I've hung out with him & had dinner.
Easy sailor.
A "C+ to a B" is probably a fair grade thus far. Stokes was fine, Myers, okay, and Rodgers fine, but I'm not sure those were great picks rather than solid.
Stokes vs. King - Stokes is faster in a straight line, but King still ran a 4.43 and has better lateral numbers. We'll see how much of an upgrade he might be over a healthy King. Of course we also see WAY too much unhealthy King, which is his biggest issue. Stokes would look better if they got someone promising who could play the slot. As it stands, it's Sullivan again or Jaire moving inside with King and Stokes outside.
Myers - I'm not sure the value was great, but if he starts right away it'll be worth it. The D-linemen run started shortly afterwards but a starting O-lineman is good.
Amari Rodgers - Solid pick, but would the value have been better had they taken Ambry Thomas or Melifonwu or Jay Tufele and used the 4th on Gainwell? Like the player, so I wouldn't argue very hard.
Royce Newman - Versatile lineman, hard to argue, though he doubled up on the type last year as well.
This is where I think the grade drops - Round 5 - Everything so far has been solid, at worst, but round five rolled out some potential turds.
Tedarrell Slaton - Issues with durability and weight and this is the primary (and potentially only) addition to a defensive line in serious need of talent?
Shemar Jean-Charles - Another corner is fine, but why take a guy with the same knocks as your first rounder only much more pronounced? This one makes little sense unless they see him as a Special Teams ace.
Cole Van Lanen - Good value, though Quincy Roche went two picks later and they already had Newman.
Isaiah McDuffie - Blech! Poor tackler, poor in coverage, lacks agility and is small. Tay Gowan and Dazz Newsome went right after. Was a mini John Ryan/Ty Summers really the best choice?
Kylin Hill - 7th round RB who runs hard, no problem at all.
@mr21mr21 posted:
Cronk looks like a younger Frankie Bag o Donuts.
I simply like the fact that they continued to go for speed on D, and stayed on the OL with program pedigree path. Like the Rodgers pick, like Stokes as he possesses things you cannot teach. Kinda dig the Slaton pick, too. Who the f knows...
@CUPackFan posted:Draft grades are useless. About as useless as the 2022 mock drafts that will be released this week. Remember, Mel Kiper gave the Packers a "C" in 2005, which was his lowest grade. He gave the Bears an A- for drafting Cedric Benson at #4.
I think Kiper gives "A" grades to teams that draft players he has on his board. I'll never pay a penny to hear his take on the draft or a player's potential.
Da Bears??? Are you kidding me???
Look, none of this matters because my viking friends have all but called it for this year...the vikes win it all. Its over....again.
@Dave in GA posted:Look, none of this matters because my viking friends have all but called it for this year...the vikes win it all. Its over....again.
Between the draft and the Rodgers story, Pedmo is able to sport a chub again!
@Boris posted:Read this....Chad Reuter explains HIS grades
https://packers.timesfour.com/...9#671518794499162499
Chad has sound analysis. I like it & I admit it's probably because I've hung out with him & had dinner.
Obviously Chad picked up the check
I love reading the post-draft analysis. The letter grades they attach though are just meaningless. And I get why they do it, it's an easy read that generates interest/clicks. I bet if you asked Chad he'd probably say the same, that he has to put those letter grades out there because his readers expect it. They just don't mean anything.
Very cool you got to have dinner with Chad. He's good, one of scouts I try to read more than others (I also like The Draft Network guys and Matt Miller).
@Pikes Peak posted:Obviously Chad picked up the check
I believe he left the tip -- I insisted on picking up the check
I read that we picked up at least 3 more offensive linemen as UDFA. And no QBโs. Maybe we become a run first, run second run all the time team. We donโt need no stinking QBโs!