@DH13 posted:Kenny was also like 20yrs old.
Younger than Kenny Pickett?π€·
@RochNyFan posted:And he buys his underwear at K-Mart.
400 Oak Street.
Cincinnati.
Not sure if this one has been posted
Here's a well-done breakdown on Wyatt in preseason - some good stuff in here in terms of hand use and technique.
@Satori posted:Not sure if this one has been posted
Here's a well-done breakdown on Wyatt in preseason - some good stuff in here in terms of hand use and technique.
Thanks. This makes me feel >A LOT< better about the cut-down to 53. This guy needs seasoning, but should be a real force by the end of the season.
@Really Old Saguaro posted:This guy needs seasoning, but should be a real force by the end of the season.
Absolutely-
And its such a treat to watch the detailed breakdown by somebody who knows their shit on DL play.
The Packers rarely get a shot at a DL talent like Wyatt - but the draft class was boosted with COVID refugees and Wyatt had some red flags for behavior.
The talent really shines through and I think he'll be a 6 - 7 sack guy this year Mainly because everybody else in the pressure package demands more attention than him and he can beat enough guys 1 v 1 to get home.
Fat man can run!
LOVE this hustle from Devonte Wyatt. That's a 300+ pound DL π pic.twitter.com/5v9gWDW42m
β Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) September 13, 2022
Don't look now but Wyatt posted the highest PFF score yesterday. FWIW. I didn't notice him but he must've done some good things.
@DH13 posted:Don't look now but Wyatt posted the highest PFF score yesterday. FWIW. I didn't notice him but he must've done some good things.
I did notice one thing absolutely clear yesterday with Wyatt. He looked real good walking around on the sidelines at one point. That was all I noticed concerning him. I swear to it !
Well, he apparently had 7 "elite" snaps.
I didn't even know he was playing. Good for him on the performance.
It was difficult to tell who was playing on the defensive line with the Tampa line wrapped around them.
It will take a couple seasons for Wyatt to get to the playing level he needs to be at to be a consistent starter, for our D Line. Same happened to Gary. What's not helping Wyatt, now, is that Slaton is playing so well--and that's a good thing!
I think he gets significant snaps next year as both Reed and Lowry will be FA's. Maybe they resign one of the two, maybe neither, but I doubt they sign both when they have Wyatt, Slayton, and Clark.
Plus, they may look to extend Clark in 2023 taking up DL cap space, so they young guys on rookie deals will need to contribute more.
Almost as if there is a plan to drafting.
@mrtundra posted:It will take a couple seasons for Wyatt to get to the playing level he needs to be at to be a consistent starter, for our D Line. Same happened to Gary. What's not helping Wyatt, now, is that Slaton is playing so well--and that's a good thing!
What also isn't in his favor if he's slow to develop is he's a 24 year old rookie. Kenny Clark had already earned a huge new contract by the time he was 24.
Defensive line seemed to get fatigued in the second-half?
Any word on whether our (24 year old ready to play right away) 1st round pick DT was too injured to play or whether he's just not in the rotation?
Googled him and this pic keeps popping up
Bustinβ
Packers currently have the 27th best (that is 6th worst) rushing defense in the NFL.
Wyatt is a 24 year-old rookie who was billed as being ready to contribute right away to a team that was supposedly competing for a Super Bowl.
Through 7 games, however, Wyatt has played a grand total of 47 defensive snaps.
It is not like Lowry is exactly setting the world on fire in 2022, so is the #28 overall pick in the draft not seeing the field a Wyatt or a Barry thing?
Why not both?
Devonte Wyatt turns 25 in March. He is not even 4 months younger than Rashan Gary.
Wyatt has flashed in several games this season.
He was also the Pack's highest rated defender by PFF on Sunday (87.7 an elite level play FWIW) and has the highest PFF score among the top 5 defensive lineman for the season.
But Wyatt played just 9 snaps (out of 50) against the Bears.
The team is 5-8 and Dean Lowry and Jarran Reed are hardly locks to be on the roster next season.
Is there any reason a 1st round rookie who has shown promise like Wyatt should not get 20+ snaps during the final 4 game of the season?
Yes..
Did you guys stop and ask yourself, does Rodgers trust him?
Wyatt was PFF's second-highest rated Packer defender versus the Rams last night. He flashed on back to back plays and was credited with half a sack.
Wyatt has a higher PFF score this season than Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, or Jarran Reed.
Yet, Wyatt played just 9 snaps last night.
I get the hesitation to give a waiver wire pickup like Rudy Ford snaps over a first round pick like Savage, but Wyatt is a first round pick and Lowry and Reed are not young, not under contract next season, and not very good.
Come on Joe, time to let Devonte Wyatt play.
He was noticed last nite for sure.
Yes, every time I saw him on the field something pawsitive happened in the pocket.
Only thing I can think is he's either got a serious conditioning problem or they only trust him in very specific situations for now.
@PackerHawk posted:Yes, every time I saw him on the field something pawsitive happened in the pocket.
Only thing I can think is he's either got a serious conditioning problem or they only trust him in very specific situations for now.
I can think of 1 more thing. The coaches stick with their guys too long. Lowry over Wyatt is almost as bad as Rogers over Nixon.
The other thing that may be going on is that while he makes more positive plays, he may lose gap integrity more often also?
@BrainDed posted:I can think of 1 more thing. The coaches stick with their guys too long. Lowry over Wyatt is almost as bad as Rogers over Nixon.
i understand the second one, but cannot grasp the first example???
I think the Packers take practice more seriously than the games sometimes. IE, you practice well, you play on sunday. I imagine Amari practiced fine, but when it came to the game he shit the bed. Wyatt may be the opposite. At a certain point, you can't ignore the tape any longer.
Wyatt from those who know him, and his habits is an ultra-try hard guy. He practices hard, works out hard and work ethic is rumored to be a lot like Rashan Gary.
If that's true, this will be a very good pick in years to come. Completely agree, the kid deserves more snaps.
The buzz around him sounds like the stuff we heard about Christian Watson earlier in the year. That he was getting open, but the ball wasnβt coming his way.
Wyatt seems to be playing at a high level after a slow start, yet his reps remain limited. NFL coaches are hard to understand sometimes.
@BrainDed posted:I can think of 1 more thing. The coaches stick with their guys too long. Lowry over Wyatt is almost as bad as Rogers over Nixon.
Disagree on the levels of "bad" personnel decisions. Dean Lowry doesn't make mistakes. He' s not an elite enough athlete to make splash plays, but I would guess he's always where he's supposed to be and doesn't make killer mistakes. He's a guy you like to have on the roster as a rotation DL.
Amari Rodgers made killer mistakes and didn't seem to run routes correctly. There was no defensible reason to have him back there returning kicks. If he were equivalent to Lowry, he'd be the guy that never fumbled, fair caught the ball when necessary, and caught the ball and ran straight ahead for 6-8 yards when it was a returnable kick. The frustrating thing was that Nixon is better at being a "solid" returner in terms of just ball security and has an upside that is obvious as soon as you see him return the first kick.
@MichiganPacker posted:Dean Lowry is elite
finally something we can all agree on
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:finally something we can all agree on
I did see one play when Lowry walked two O-lineman at once 7yds into the backfield. He is not flashy but is a bend not break guy . I agree though we need to upgrade his spot.
@MichiganPacker posted:Disagree on the levels of "bad" personnel decisions. Dean Lowry doesn't make mistakes. He' s not an elite enough athlete to make splash plays, but I would guess he's always where he's supposed to be and doesn't make killer mistakes.
Yeah, shoved into the secondary. If thatβs where heβs supposed to be, I think I get their run defense issues.
@The Grinder posted:I did see one play when Lowry walked two O-lineman at once 7yds into the backfield. He is not flashy but is a bend not break guy . I agree though we need to upgrade his spot.
Probably a screen play.
I doubt NFL coaches/scouts would grade Lowry as poorly as some posters thinks heβs played the last couple of years.
@Goalline posted:The buzz around him sounds like the stuff we heard about Christian Watson earlier in the year. That he was getting open, but the ball wasnβt coming his way.
Wyatt seems to be playing at a high level after a slow start, yet his reps remain limited. NFL coaches are hard to understand sometimes.
I wonβt deny, I was shocked at how bad Wyatt looked at times in preseason and early in the year. I saw a guy that was losing physical battles at the line of scrimmage decisively.
What is starting to show though is some pretty fantastic quickness for a 300 lb. guy. At the very least, he has shown he should get more playing time in true passing situations. His quickness should help in terms pressuring a QB going forward.
Next year and going forward, he needs to really work on technique and strength for playing the run because he was pretty poor at that to start his career.