2022 Packers Off Season Moves/Trades/Releases/Signings

@BrainDed posted:

I agree.  If the two #1s are worthy of their slot, I don’t see a weakness.  

Depth at S would be the only concern.

Yeah, after the 1st round, holy crap. Darnell Savage is potentially the worst player on defense this year.

Overall we added some nice depth but took a big step backwards . I hope I’m wrong but I would bet the house that there won’t be a championship game this year.

There was no championship last year.

Now that free agency and the draft are in the books, the portion of the roster most likely to catch passes from #12 looks like this:

At TE -- Tonyan (coming off his ACL), Degaura (or maybe he plays more H-Back in 2022), Lewis, Daffney, and Davis; and

At WR -- Lazard, Watkins, Watson, Cobb, A. Rodgers, Doubs, Taylor, and Winfree.

What are fans thoughts on this group?

       Good enough as is?

       Still not done with a key vet or 2 to be added?

       Exh. A as to why GB will be watching the SB from home again next season?

If Tom Brady's last two Super Bowl wins were averaged, he needed to score 7 points to win.

Rams scored 3 points in their SB loss.

Chiefs scored 9 points in their SB loss.

We will be ok if that defense realizes it's potential.

@The Crusher posted:

If Tom Brady's last two Super Bowl wins were averaged, he needed to score 7 points to win.

Rams scored 3 points in their SB loss.

Chiefs scored 9 points in their SB loss.

We will be ok if that defense realizes it's potential.

Prior to Tom Brady's last 2 SB wins, he needed to average 24 points in the respective AFC & NFC championship wins just to get to those SBs. (The Pack put up 26 on his D in the 2020 NFC Championship game).

Eventual SB winners need to be able to win games both offensively and defensively.

Lazard has NOT signed his RFA tender yet. So he is not under contract as OTA's have started. I think his RFA tender is for about $3.9 mil for 2022. So, is he holding out for a bigger, longer term payday? It's been very quiet regarding his intentions.

I really hope Lazard makes the jump.  He's got quite a bit of pressure on him considering he's pretty much #1 (when Watkins gets hurt) #2 this year.

I get the feeling we'll see a bit more of Watson due to lack of bodies. 

OOPS. Looks like I had read some bad info. I stand corrected.

@SteveLuke posted:

Now that free agency and the draft are in the books, the portion of the roster most likely to catch passes from #12 looks like this:

At TE -- Tonyan (coming off his ACL), Degaura (or maybe he plays more H-Back in 2022), Lewis, Daffney, and Davis; and

At WR -- Lazard, Watkins, Watson, Cobb, A. Rodgers, Doubs, Taylor, and Winfree.

What are fans thoughts on this group?

       Good enough as is?

       Still not done with a key vet or 2 to be added?

       Exh. A as to why GB will be watching the SB from home again next season?

I honestly believe the key to success isn't the individual players but the scheme to work around the huge holes.  This is a big test for Mayo's coaching acumen and Rodgers executing the scheme to a T.  It is 100% given this starting roster changes quickly.

Pretty hard to get excited or even make predictions with receiving positions being so precarious.  Maybe a rookie like Doub steps up.  Maybe Winfree doesn't look like a flopping guppy and takes a step.  Maybe Lazard anchors the WR corp.  Maybe Watson blows the lid off the thing.  I'm not even going to talk about Watkins and Cobb.

It's pretty much a complete unknown.

@Henry posted:

I honestly believe the key to success isn't the individual players but the scheme to work around the huge holes.  This is a big test for Mayo's coaching acumen and Rodgers executing the scheme to a T.  It is 100% given this starting roster changes quickly.

Pretty hard to get excited or even make predictions with receiving positions being so precarious.  Maybe a rookie like Doub steps up.  Maybe Winfree doesn't look like a flopping guppy and takes a step.  Maybe Lazard anchors the WR corp.  Maybe Watson blows the lid off the thing.  I'm not even going to talk about Watkins and Cobb.

It's pretty much a complete unknown.

I have great confidence in MLF's coaching acumen and in his ability to scheme players open. And I see no reason why #12 should not be able to execute that scheme.

But all the scheming or executing cannot make up for a lack of talent (and experience).

When Brady needed to make a play in a clutch moment while with NE he invariably went to Gronk or Edelman or even a James White out of the backfield. He has so many weapons in TB (several of whom were hurt when he came close to beating the SB champion Rams in the playoffs last season) that he spreads it around more often now, but he still has Mike Evans or Gronk or Godwin (before he got injured) when the going gets tough.

Kupp made some incredible plays in helping the Rams to last year's SB victory (in wins against TB and Cincy). The reality is that, to win a SB, you need a pass catcher and typically two or three pass catchers to step up big-time. (Recall the Rams were putting it to Cincy before OBJ tore his ACL).

It is also UNFAIR to expect a 2nd round rookie like Watson (unlike a top 5 pick like Chase) to blow up and carry the Packers in 2022. Patently unfair.  Jordy, Davante, and Cobb all did very little in their first seasons in GB so hard to expect Watson to do any more. It is even more unfair (and unrealistic) to expect much in year 1 from a 4th rounder in Doubs.

Finally, if getting back to another SB in 2022 rests on (never caught more than 40 passes or had more than 513 receiving yards, slow-as-molasses) Allen Lazard anchoring the WR group that is an indictment on the FRONT OFFICE not on limited talent, former UDFA Allen Lazard.

PS Unless Tonyan is completely healed from his (October 29, 2021) ACL tear and reverts to his 2020 production, the TE position is currently even more dire from a pass catching standpoint than WR.

If I did the math correct, it looks like after they sign their draft picks, they'll have just under $10 million in cap space.

Spotrac has them currently at just over $14 million in cap space.  The new draftees (top 6) are estimated to make just over $9 million combined.  They will replace the lowest 6 on the current "Top 51".  Those six all make $825k, or $4.95 million. That leaves with just under $10 million.

Did I factor this correctly?

The Green Bay Packers are doing their due diligence when it comes to adding depth to their wide receiver room. Brian Gutekunst drafted three receivers in the 2022 NFL Draft, including Christian Watson in the second round. Additionally, the Packers have signed multiple wide receivers as undrafted free agents. This list includes Wisconsin Badgers fan favorite Danny Davis. According to a recent Tweet, the Packers have also invited Ryan Wisniewski of UW Whitewater.

WWJ 2?

Gonna guess based on name alone that he is pigment challenged.

Meanwhile in the Crosby household.

TeamBUILDING ✅ #DidWeJustBecomeBestFriends #Yup #ThisIsHowWeDoIt #Packers @crosbykicks2 pic.twitter.com/Q2zPktABLq

— Pat O'Donnell (@PatODonnell_16) May 2, 2022

@SteveLuke posted:

Eventual SB winners need to be able to win games both offensively and defensively.

You can't get this type of insight any place else.

@R MaN posted:

The Green Bay Packers are doing their due diligence when it comes to adding depth to their wide receiver room. Brian Gutekunst drafted three receivers in the 2022 NFL Draft, including Christian Watson in the second round. Additionally, the Packers have signed multiple wide receivers as undrafted free agents. This list includes Wisconsin Badgers fan favorite Danny Davis. According to a recent Tweet, the Packers have also invited Ryan Wisniewski of UW Whitewater.

Gute also picked up Badger WR Danny Davis, as an UDFA. Davis was no slouch, for the Badgers, especially on deep routes.

@mrtundra posted:

Gute also picked up Badger WR Danny Davis, as an UDFA. Davis was no slouch, for the Badgers, especially on deep routes.

That’s GM of the year stuff!

You’re all selling Davis short. He’s a tremendous slouch.

@mrtundra posted:

Gute also picked up Badger WR Danny Davis, as an UDFA. Davis was no slouch, for the Badgers, especially on deep routes.

Jeff Janis! was no slouch on deep routes either.

On anything else, not so much.

Couple of notes on the TE the Packers signed last year- Tyler Davis # 84
He could be a contributor in September while Tonyan gets up to speed

@SteveLuke posted:

I have great confidence in MLF's coaching acumen and in his ability to scheme players open. And I see no reason why #12 should not be able to execute that scheme.

But all the scheming or executing cannot make up for a lack of talent (and experience).

When Brady needed to make a play in a clutch moment while with NE he invariably went to Gronk or Edelman or even a James White out of the backfield. He has so many weapons in TB (several of whom were hurt when he came close to beating the SB champion Rams in the playoffs last season) that he spreads it around more often now, but he still has Mike Evans or Gronk or Godwin (before he got injured) when the going gets tough.

Kupp made some incredible plays in helping the Rams to last year's SB victory (in wins against TB and Cincy). The reality is that, to win a SB, you need a pass catcher and typically two or three pass catchers to step up big-time. (Recall the Rams were putting it to Cincy before OBJ tore his ACL).

It is also UNFAIR to expect a 2nd round rookie like Watson (unlike a top 5 pick like Chase) to blow up and carry the Packers in 2022. Patently unfair.  Jordy, Davante, and Cobb all did very little in their first seasons in GB so hard to expect Watson to do any more. It is even more unfair (and unrealistic) to expect much in year 1 from a 4th rounder in Doubs.

Finally, if getting back to another SB in 2022 rests on (never caught more than 40 passes or had more than 513 receiving yards, slow-as-molasses) Allen Lazard anchoring the WR group that is an indictment on the FRONT OFFICE not on limited talent, former UDFA Allen Lazard.

PS Unless Tonyan is completely healed from his (October 29, 2021) ACL tear and reverts to his 2020 production, the TE position is currently even more dire from a pass catching standpoint than WR.

I meant scheming AROUND the gaping lack of talent at WR.  Meaning more Aaron Jones at WRB, etc.  The offense is going to be generated around the LOS and hopefully with a ton of YAC.  I'm not seeing any deep passing game.  That's why I'm saying Rodgers really needs to toe the line and stay with the short game and guys like Lazard end up lining up in the TE position more.

I have no doubt Mayo and Rodgers will test out a deep game with some of the other WRs but hoping they (Rodgers) doesn't prolong the misery if these guys shit the bed and Mayo changes up gear quickly.

Forgot about Tyler Davis ... i like him, came to college as a QB. Ran a 4.65 at his pro day so has some ability to threaten the seam vs cover 2.

I'm really gonna miss those bombs on 3rd and 2.

I really start to see why they drafted so much OL with that 1 video clip.  you need to be absolutely 100% bad ass up front with not much at WR and everyone knows you are probably gonna run...

"This is a great WR market for the Packers & I think they're gonna be involved for Jarvis Landry, Julio Jones & OBJ" ~@RapSheet#PMSLive pic.twitter.com/UXRLxnqNFK

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) May 10, 2022

Are you sure he didn't say "and oh I need a bj"

It would make more sense than signing a guy who tore his acl.

With all these receivers the Packers will have on their "roster", it becomes clear that there will need to be more than one way to retain them.  Of course 6 or 7 will be on the 53 man roster.  Maybe another 3 or so on the PS.  Then all the others on the top secret POCS - Packer On-Call Squad.  If Landry were on it and getting paid, none of us would know about it.  Rodgers would be practicing with them at night in the Hutson Center.  Magically, as injuries occur, the Packers would always surface a very good replacement. 

@GBFanForLife posted:

Are you sure he didn't say "and oh I need a bj"

Or "Make sure we have a backup for O'Neill":

I got me a hankerin' fo' some sweet muskrat love.

@Henry posted:

I meant scheming AROUND the gaping lack of talent at WR.  Meaning more Aaron Jones at WRB, etc.  The offense is going to be generated around the LOS and hopefully with a ton of YAC.  I'm not seeing any deep passing game.  That's why I'm saying Rodgers really needs to toe the line and stay with the short game and guys like Lazard end up lining up in the TE position more.

I have no doubt Mayo and Rodgers will test out a deep game with some of the other WRs but hoping they (Rodgers) doesn't prolong the misery if these guys shit the bed and Mayo changes up gear quickly.

I think a lot of the passing game will hinge on how Tonyan recovers. I was surprised we didn't draft a TE.

@antooo posted:

I got me a hankerin' fo' some sweet muskrat love.

Forgive me for channeling my inner Fedya, but for those who may be interested and/or who would still hit it (beef)...
Miss Toni Tennille just celebrated her 82nd birthday a couple or so days back.
I can't find a recent pic; this is her at 75:

Team Picked up a 238 TE. https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...h-cool-walk-on-story

Eli's coming, you better hide ...

🐺 And he is another Wolf.

@PackerPatrick posted:

Team Picked up a 238 lb TE. https://packerswire.usatoday.c...-waivers-from-colts/

Long snapper?

@Packmeister posted:

I think a lot of the passing game will hinge on how Tonyan recovers. I was surprised we didn't draft a TE.

I think GB likes what they have seen in Davis and will be using him more in the offense. Especially so, until Tonyan returns.

Here's a negative view of our prospects if Gutey doesn't add better Wide Receivers

https://packersnotes.com/2022/...-needed-at-receiver/