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@DH13 posted:

PFF has X and Evan Williams as two of the top four rated S in the NFL currently.  Despite PFF's validity, I don't think Williams is only providing splash plays.

I sometimes wonder if some rookie players are successful because they excel in what they know, yet they donโ€™t start and/or are limited to certain packages because theyโ€™re somewhat limited with the playbook.  As good as Cooper has been in limited snaps, I canโ€™t believe the coaches havenโ€™t played him (so far) as much as Quay or Wilson or McDuffie because simply because they prefer to play vets .  

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@ammo posted:

You must haver a short memory.  Ahmad Carroll,  Antuan Edwards,  Josh Jackson, Kevin King,  Mike McKenzie,  Damarious Randall,  Eric Stokes,  Fred Vinson all started games for the Packers. All were cut or traded, except head case McKenzie because they sucked.

Why was Mike Mckenzie a head case? I don't remember.

Josh Jackson was an all time bust. That was the year they went veteran in free agency and brought in Jimmy Graham and Marcedies Lewis and then passed on Dallas Goedert and Mark Andrews to take Jackson. That was also the year they pushed Jordy out and sent 12 spiraling. To be fair 87 was almost cooked, but he would have helped that season. They made a mess of the roster that year and it took a while to clean up.

I remember watching him as a rookie in pre-season when the Packers played at Camp Randall. I could tell that night he was going to be good.   Same draft as Edwards and Vinson who were 1 & 2.  He played circles around them in the pre-season. But as Boris said he wanted more $$$$$$$$ before his contract was up so he was traded.

That 1999 draft really sucked except for the last guy the Pack picked, Donald Driver.

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@ammo posted:

I remember watching him as a rookie in pre-season when the Packers played at Camp Randall. I could tell that night he was going to be good.   Same draft as Edwards and Vinson who were 1 & 2.  He played circles around them in the pre-season. But as Boris said he wanted more $$$$$$$$ before his contract was up so he was traded.

That 1999 draft really sucked except for the last guy the Pack picked, Donald Driver.

I remember that too. Mckenzie was the third CB taken and by far the best one. We can thank Randy Moss for the Edwards, Vinson and McKenzie picks.

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