2023 Green Bay Packers Round 5 Pick 149 Sean Clifford QB Penn State

Taking Aaron Rodgers back up role.

The roller coaster ride of this tweet actually mirrors Clifford’s career very well. https://t.co/AbPD1AR0U4

— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) April 29, 2023

Love is toast 😁

This guy is Kirk Cousins II

Meh.

I can't DOG this pick.

The Packers needed a young QB to develop. But this one?

Kirk Cousins II baby 🤭

Gute overdrafting by 3 or 4 rounds again? Another Oren Burks or Degaura-like head scratcher….

Curious choice in the fifth round.

@13X posted:

Gute overdrafting by 3 or 4 rounds again? Another Oren Burks or Degaura-like head scratcher….

He knows things.

Nothing to like about this pick

Gutekunst likely drafting who he thinks is his Brock Purdy in Round 5.

Maybe it was the RAS?

New Packers QB Sean Clifford is a very good athlete at the position. Four-time captain. Three-time All-Big Ten pick. Played 51 collegiate games. Will be 25 in July. Undrafted type for most evaluators. pic.twitter.com/o54m0kr7GO

— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) April 29, 2023

@antooo posted:

He knows things.

It seems he's been drinking, at least.

@13X posted:

Nothing to like about this pick

You obviously haven’t checked in with Blair

A reach....

It's the end of the 5th round and you're worried about a "reach"?!?!

I don't think you really understand UDFA and the war that goes on after the draft. Some of those UDFA's get paid more than the 7th rounders drafted. Now the Packers don't need to fight with anyone to get a guy they clearly like.

@13X posted:

Gute overdrafting by 3 or 4 rounds again? Another Oren Burks or Degaura-like head scratcher….

Yeah, I wouldn't have taken him until at least the 8th or 9th RD. Kind of a strange pick but I guess we'll find out. I've seen Clifford play pretty well at times and he does have good mobility. He's pretty tough too.

@michiganjoe posted:

Curious choice in the fifth round.

Better than the third round.

@Maxi54 posted:

Yeah, I wouldn't have taken him until at least the 8th or 9th RD. Kind of a strange pick but I guess we'll find out. I've seen Clifford play pretty well at times and he does have good mobility. He's pretty tough too.

Probably a career backup, which we need. Wolf used to draft a QB almost every year.

@Boris posted:

A reach....

It's the end of the 5th round and you're worried about a "reach"?!?!

I don't think you really understand UDFA and the war that goes on after the draft. Some of those UDFA's get paid more than the 7th rounders drafted. Now the Packers don't need to fight with anyone to get a guy they clearly like.

I definitely understand and yes it’s only a 5th so it’s not the end of the world by any means. It just appears he would have still been there in the 6th or 7th round.

He's athletic and tough with a questionable arm that most felt would go undrafted. Not sure when you've got four seventh-rounders why you use a fifth in this situation.

Is this the point that I declare that not a one of you knows shit, or do I wait ‘til the end of the draft?

He's inconsistent with his feet.  That's common with young QB's and is fixable.
Arm strength, probably not so much.

Wait

@Maxi54 posted:

Yeah, I wouldn't have taken him until at least the 8th or 9th RD. Kind of a strange pick but I guess we'll find out. I've seen Clifford play pretty well at times and he does have good mobility. He's pretty tough too.

The best QBs are drafted in the 17th round.

@YATittle posted:

Probably a career backup, which we need. Wolf used to draft a QB almost every year.

I don't think anyone disagrees with taking a QB at some point, but expected taking one with arm talent at this point.

@Herschel posted:

I don't think anyone disagrees with taking a QB at some point, but expected taking one with arm talent at this point.

Exactly

@Blair Kiel posted:

Is this the point that I declare that not a one of you knows shit, or do I wait ‘til the end of the draft?

Go ahead and do it now Kiel. It's always a fact regardless of the timing.

I learned to keep my mouth shut and let things play out after the Gary pick. I hated that selection, but it proved once and for all that I don't know shit about how these guys are going to translate to the NFL.

You don't complete almost 65% of your passes without at least a little bit of accuracy unless each pass is within 2 yds. of the line of scrimmage.

@Maxi54 posted:

Go ahead and do it now Kiel. It's always a fact regardless of the timing.

I learned to keep my mouth shut and let things play out after the Gary pick. I hated that selection, but it proved once and for all that I don't know shit about how these guys are going to translate to the NFL.

Nothing wrong with providing opinions about picks. I know some here liked the Oren Burks pick as well. It’s definitely a crapshoot. I hope Clifford is great. Just seems a bit early to draft him here.

You can do a lot worse than Sean Clifford.

@michiganjoe posted:

He's athletic and tough with a questionable arm that most felt would go undrafted. Not sure when you've got four seventh-rounders why you use a fifth in this situation.

So, there is ZERO chance another of the 31 other teams would draft him. Only the Packers had him with a "5th round grade" The other 31 teams were willing to fight with each other in the UDFA market to get him.

Ok 🤭

@13X posted:

Nothing wrong with providing opinions about picks. I know some here liked the Oren Burks pick as well. It’s definitely a crapshoot. I hope Clifford is great. Just seems a bit early to draft him here.

Oh, I agree 13X. It doesn't hurt at all to prognosticate about these picks and have an opinion. Hell, that's half the fun of watching the draft. We're just like the scouts in that some of our favorite picks pan out and others don't.

It's kind of like fishing. Maybe once in a lifetime you catch a 55+ inch muskie and other times you can't get anything except annoying hammer handle pike!

He was one of our 30 pre-draft visits.  They must have seen something in him that they liked.  I would expect more of the pre-draft visit guys to get drafted as well.  Wicks was also one of the 30.

@michiganjoe posted:

He's athletic and tough with a questionable arm that most felt would go undrafted. Not sure when you've got four seventh-rounders why you use a fifth in this situation.

11 QB's went in the 5th. That hasn't happened since 1994. It's this effect:

@Maxi54 posted:

You don't complete almost 65% of your passes without at least a little bit of accuracy unless each pass is within 2 yds. of the line of scrimmage.

Passes within 2 yds of LoS don't really matter, especially TD passes within 2 yds of the LoS. I read that somewhere.

@Boris posted:

Kirk Cousins II baby 🤭

So trade him to Vikes for a 1st at final cutdown?

@Boris posted:

So, there is ZERO chance another of the 31 other teams would draft him. Only the Packers had him with a "5th round grade" The other 31 teams were willing to fight with each other in the UDFA market to get him.

Ok 🤭

A good chance he would have been there in the 7th. Of course no one knows for certain.

@Tschmack posted:

You can do a lot worse than Sean Clifford.

Like Oren Burks