What, no chocolate?!
@bvan posted:OK, youse talked me in to it!
Goldie’s “life coaches”.
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— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 25, 2023
The #Cowboys are in the process of completing a trade for former No. 3 overall pick #49ers QB Trey Lance, sources say. Lance gets a fresh start. pic.twitter.com/HKfBvMZjUm
Trey Lance now with McCarthy in Dallas.
Reported 2024 4th round pick from Dallas to SF
What a God awful move, considering what the whiners gave up, to acquire Lance and a terrible return in a trade. Really, that’s the shit that would get most GMs fired.
Lance still has upside if he can stay healthy and gets the right opportunity. I don’t know if that’s Dallas and MM, but if Lance actually pans out then Lynch and the 9ers should never hear the end of it.
SF wanted to get that salary off the books - actually getting a 4th rounder from Dallas was a little higher than I thought. I was thinking no higher than a 5th. Not surprised SF took that deal.
Creates a little money to give to Bosa
But what does this do to the confidence of Dak? If he throws 2 picks in a game will Lance be on the field and Prescott on the bench?
Even more strange does anyone think Sam Darnold can lead the Whiners anywhere if Purdy gets injured again or was nothing more than a 1 year wonder?
@packerboi posted:What a God awful move, considering what the whiners gave up, to acquire Lance and a terrible return in a trade. Really, that’s the shit that would get most GMs fired.
Lance still has upside if he can stay healthy and gets the right opportunity. I don’t know if that’s Dallas and MM, but if Lance actually pans out then Lynch and the 9ers should never hear the end of it.
Worse than the trade up to draft Mitch Trubisky?
I'd laugh my ass off if Purdy turns out to be a flash in the pan and Darnold comes in and stinks the place up. I never believed in Lance and never understood the fascination with Lance. He didn't play against decent competition and for only one season. Wentz made that leap but we saw how long that lasted.
The 49ers must have really been desperate to unload him if they ended up making a deal with Dallas.
@ammo posted:Even more strange does anyone think Sam Darnold can lead the Whiners anywhere if Purdy gets injured again or was nothing more than a 1 year wonder?
I don’t think that’s the issue. The issue is Lance has been outplayed by Jimmy G, Purdy and now Darnold when he’s been given every opportunity to win the starting job. That plus his blowing up and walking out of a meeting with Shanahan earlier this week.
Young Shanahan has a deserved rep as a skilled offensive designer but he’s not shown an ability to develop quarterbacks. He certainly has his father’s hubris.
@ammo posted:Even more strange does anyone think Sam Darnold can lead the Whiners anywhere if Purdy gets injured again or was nothing more than a 1 year wonder?
I never understood the Darnold signing unless Purdy was hurt worse than advertised. In retrospect, the Niners had already made a decision on Lance's future in SF.
More context from ESPN:
What does this say about the 49ers' recent draft history?
To take it back to the original Lance trade, it's impossible to cast this in hindsight as anything but one of the worst outcomes for a trade in recent NFL history. Antonio Brown didn't cost the Raiders as much when he was cut before ever playing a single down with the team. Russell Wilson was an upgrade on Drew Lock, at least. The Falcons got a first-round pick for Brett Favre. The Herschel Walker trade was an entirely different sort of deal, but the Lance trade turned out worse than the Jets' deal for Darnold, the Commanders sending multiple first-rounders for Robert Griffin or the Saints sending one entire draft for Ricky Williams.
Well, in every way, this deal was a disaster. The 49ers sent three first-round picks to move up from No. 12 in the 2021 draft, throwing in a third-round selection for good measure. Even given that the Niners were successful in 2021 and 2022 and sent over the 29th picks in consecutive drafts, this is an enormous amount of draft capital. By the draft chart derived from historical data by Chase Stuart, they sent the equivalent of the first and 19th overall picks in a typical draft to acquire Lance. A team can't make a trade like that unless it's adding a player at a premium position and is sure it's going to work out. It clearly didn't for the 49ers.
Now, add what happened with the picks the 49ers dealt away in the 2021 draft. The Dolphins moved down from No. 3 to No. 12, but then sent a first-round pick to the Eagles to move back up to No. 6. They drafted Jaylen Waddle. The Eagles moved up from No. 12 to No. 10 and took DeVonta Smith. And if you're going to be shortsighted and argue that the 49ers wouldn't have benefited from those players because they didn't need a wide receiver, Micah Parsons is the guy who came off the board in their original spot at No. 12.
Every other team won this deal. The Dolphins used their two first-round picks to serve as the majority of the draft capital in their trades for Tyreek Hill and Bradley Chubb. The Eagles used the other first-round pick as the majority of the trade to move up for Jordan Davis. The Cowboys landed arguably the best defensive player in football when the 49ers could have theoretically combined him with Nick Bosa, one of the other guys who has a claim as the league's best defender.
This isn't the first high pick the 49ers have missed on under the regime of Shanahan and general manager John Lynch, either. Lance would be the most spectacular disappointment, but the first-round picks they have made have been a mixed bag at best. Of the seven players they've drafted in the first round, just two -- Bosa and Brandon Aiyuk -- will be starters on the 2023 roster. Lance could be traded soon. Solomon Thomas has bounced around the league, Reuben Foster is out of football, Javon Kinlaw has disappointed and had his fifth-year option declined, and the 49ers didn't make a serious effort to re-sign Mike McGlinchey, who joined the Broncos on a massive deal in free agency.
Shanarat. That's what we called his Dad and apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
He probably stormed out of room after he found out he's 3rd stringer.
Hilarious 😆
I do not get why some salivate over the draft moves the 49ers have made, when in fact, many of them have been a train wreck.
And I fully get that while Gute hasn't been perfect, he also hasn't had this high level of draft capital only to fuck up multiple high, first round picks either.
Just imagine the pitch forks that would be gathered in mass if Gute made these same moves at 1265
Detroit on CBS vs Carolina........QB for Carolina looking pretty dang good so far. Yikes......rookie??? Love NFL football. Oh, and, way to early for a drag. 
@packerboi posted:I do not get why some salivate over the draft moves the 49ers have made, when in fact, many of them have been a train wreck.
And I fully get that while Gute hasn't been perfect, he also hasn't had this high level of draft capital only to fuck up multiple high, first round picks either.
Just imagine the pitch forks that would be gathered in mass if Gute made these same moves at 1265
You praise Gute and bash the 49rs front office but they always beat us. Something is off.
@BrainDed posted:You praise Gute and bash the 49rs front office but they always beat us. Something is off.
MLF has beaten the 49ers in California, more then once . GB’s issue with SF was Aaron Rodgers playing small like he’s done in so many playoff performances of late and MLF getting out coached. It was never about one team having way more talent then the other.
TruthDefinitely needed to post that pic twice, Y.A. 🤭
He's not YA YA for nothing.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...6v6kx-8SlFc_FFdnpDWg
Instead of fighting for a spot on the Cowboys' roster, Will Grier will use Dallas' preseason finale against the Raiders as an audition tape. Grier will play the entirety of Saturday night's game despite being told by the Cowboys that he won't be with them moving forward, according to the Dallas Morning News.
@packerboi posted:MLF has beaten the 49ers in California, more then once . GB’s issue with SF was Aaron Rodgers playing small like he’s done in so many playoff performances of late and MLF getting out coached. It was never about one team having way more talent then the other.
It was only one game, but the 2020 playoff game may have been the exception here. They dominated us. It was definielty a bad day and Mostert ran wild for over 200 yards and 4 tds.
@GBFanForLife posted:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/...6v6kx-8SlFc_FFdnpDWg
Grier will play the entirety of Saturday night's game despite being told by the Cowboys that he won't be with them moving forward, according to the Dallas Morning News.
Watch him play most of the game and then get "injured" and receive a nice injury settlement.
Notre Dame vs Navy in IRELAND……love their uniforms. ☘️ ☘️ ☘️
Are those green buds? ND vs Navy NFL????
The #Bills released TE Jace Sternberger, per source.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) August 27, 2023
Your obligatory reminder that Terry McLaurin was the next pick after Jace.
I’m not sure if anyone has heard this before but we could have had Barry Sanders instead of Tony Mandarich.
Well, we need to wait a few seasons before grading a draft.
Jason Campbell was drafted immediately after AR.
@packerboi posted:MLF has beaten the 49ers in California, more then once . GB’s issue with SF was Aaron Rodgers playing small like he’s done in so many playoff performances of late and MLF getting out coached. It was never about one team having way more talent then the other.
AR was the ultimate field tilter for much of his career. The difference in that game should have been at QB. Imagine if that SF roster ever added an elite QB.
@DH13 posted:AR was the ultimate field tilter for much of his career. The difference in that game should have been at QB. Imagine if that SF roster ever added an elite QB.
As has been discussed many times, if the Packers would have had competent special teams in 2021 they win that playoff game.
You could argue the difference in that game should have been the QB. It was cold and Rodgers played well enough to win that game. The Packers had a chip shot FG blocked at the end of the half and then had the punt blocked for a TD. It should have been a 13-3 game with the Niners getting the ball back around midfield with 5 minutes left.
Still MLFs worst game as a coach if for no other reason that EVERYONE knew the special teams was a problem all year (including MLF who told Aikman and Buck he was just hoping special teams didn't hurt them that week). Just a pathetic example of a head coach who couldn't make the tough (but obvious) decisions. Can you imagine Mike Holmgren allowing that to continue without doing anything? Bill Parcells?
And despite that, as was the case for so many games when our D was the annual weak link, AR was not the great fixer. He did not play to his usual standard in that game and wasn't able to drag that team to victory.
Combo platter IMO. No matter how many special team screw ups and coaching head scratchers the O needs to score more than 3.
What really hurt for me in that game is that the defense finally shows up in a big spot and sure enough special teams and the offense just craps the bed.
As for the moves the 49ers have made IMHO soon things may come crumbling down for them. They have very little draft capital the next couple of years and if they can't finally solve the QB situation they could be in trouble.
@michiganjoe posted:Your obligatory reminder that Terry McLaurin was the next pick after Jace.
https://commanderswire.usatoda...rs-terry-mclaurin-2/
Seems like the guy is injured a lot....But yes he's still better than Jace.
@MichiganPacker posted:.Still MLFs worst game as a coach if for no other reason that EVERYONE knew the special teams was a problem all year (including MLF who told Aikman and Buck he was just hoping special teams didn't hurt them that week). Just a pathetic example of a head coach who couldn't make the tough (but obvious) decisions. Can you imagine Mike Holmgren allowing that to continue without doing anything? Bill Parcells?
You're blaming MLF for something he probably had zero control over - hiring or firing the STs coach.
Early in the game, Packers got a turnover on a bang bang play. Defender stripped the receiver after he caught the ball and they called it "incomplete" if the defender isn't there the SF receiver is still running with a catch but the NFL knew if they give the ball to Green Bay with a 2 score lead the game was virtually over - so they ruled incomplete. It's just a small sample of why I cannot stand the NFL any more. Certain aspects of the game are flat out controlled by the league office.
But the Packers and especially the QB need to overcome that shit. This game is the game I was done with Rodgers.
I just love the Green Bay Packers, that's it. That's the list.
Kind of a silly game. There are probably just as many guys taken before Gute's picks that turned out just as bad or worse. How many had Jaire, Elgton, and Gary as high on their board as Gute? I would be more concerned with the low number of starters gained from his drafts, or even how few are still on the roster. The roster really needed Gute to hit a grand slam in 2022 and so far it's looking like he may have.