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— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) April 26, 2024
I might have a perma-bone if this happened.
Listening to a lot of Bear fans this morning blowing their wad over Williams and his shiny new WR they took at #9 overall.
Meanwhile? Their OL is average to garbage at best.
Lucas Patrick with a PFF grade of 50.2 last year.
Nate Davis, their right guard, a PFF grade of 52. Equals to about a D+ grade.
Their tackles? Averaged PFF grades in the mid-upper 60's.
Gute's pick of Morgan isn't the flashy pick that Odunze is. And he's about to back up the truck to pay Jordan Love 50 mil year. So he uses his pick to ensure that Love is protected on his blindside for hopefully the next 8-10 years.
The Bears on the other hand could have drafted a franchise OT to protect Williams. Instead, they went with the pick to appease their fan base.
A lot of GM's are playing checkers this weekend. Very few are playing chess.
@Koopla Krash posted:I might have a perma-bone if this happened.
I believe the correct term is priapism. Priapism.
@CUPackFan posted:While I don't feel for Kirk at all, what are the Falcons doing? It's one thing to have a long-term QB at the end of his career and drafting a replacement in the late first but another thing to sign an aging QB to a huge deal in free agency and then take a QB in the top 10. The benefit of a young QB is a low cap hit. Cousins contract totally negates that.
Cousins has essentially a two-year deal and the Falcons don’t want to end up in the same shithole in 2026.
@packerboi posted:Listening to a lot of Bear fans this morning blowing their wad over Williams and his shiny new WR they took at #9 overall.
I think J. Daniels is/will be the better QB. Their vet WRs will likely be gone when/if Wiiliams gets it. Also, if their online keeps him healthy.
@vitaflo posted:And this is why the Packers will continue to have success. You can't build a team with only a few picks.
Add on to this MN only has like 4 picks all of next year as well (a 1st and then they don't pick again until the 5th). The Bears have 4 picks in the entire draft this year. 4!
Not sure how MN or Chicago build around their new QB with so few picks, most of which are late rounders as it is.
GB on the other hand has had 35 picks in the last 3 years (if they don't trade up or down this year). We're actually trying to build a team for the future around Jordan.
The Bears have at least had a shit ton of cap space to sign free agents.
@Herschel posted:Cousins has essentially a two-year deal and the Falcons don’t want to end up in the same shithole in 2026.
The dead cap hits on Cousins contracts if they move on make it completely impossible to move on from him the next two years. While possible to move on in 2026, it's not without some cap pain. I guess teams eat 25 million in cap room more often these days, but this still reeks of poor planning.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pl...id/9915/kirk-cousins
Dead cap hits: 2024 (90 million), 2025 (65 million), 2026 (25 million)
The thing that doesn't make sense is that one of Penix's strengths is that his age and experience make him a very developed player already. He's not a guy that you'd think would need to sit on the bench and learn the ropes for 2 years before playing. He's a more mature prospect than any QB drafted last night and you'd think his experience would lend to playing at the NFL level right away. He's also basically the same age as Desmond Ridder - the guy they already gave up on after drafting him in the 3rd round in 2022.
The Falcons will never admit it, but I assume if they knew they were sure to get Penix they would have never signed Cousins to begin with (and certainly wouldn't have tampered and likely lost draft picks because of it).
https://www.pff.com/news/draft...-penix-jr-washington
SUMMARY
Michael Penix Jr. enjoyed a long and, ultimately, successful college career. His experience can be an argument for him having a rather high floor as a draft prospect. Add to that his arm talent and ability to get through his progressions effectively and efficiently, and you have a case to be made for a first-round pick.
On the flip side of that experience is the argument that, after five seasons in college, we know exactly what he is as a quarterback and there isn’t much of a ceiling. His accuracy was a problem throughout his college career. That not being fixed at this point makes it tough to think it will get better at the next level. And while he has shown an ability to avoid sacks, his struggles to make positive plays under pressure will only be more difficult when making the jump to the next level.
@vitaflo posted:I believe you mean overpay for big names whose best days are behind them.
Keenan Allen for a 4th round pick and a 1 year deal at 23 million was a good move.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:The Falcons will never admit it, but I assume if they knew they were sure to get Penix they would have never signed Cousins to begin with
I don't know how the Falcons didn't think they could land Penix. He wasn't mocked high and they always had the 8th pick even before they signed Cousins.
And you're right that Penix was one of the few guys people thought were NFL ready because he spent 6 years (!) playing QB in college. He already had 2 years playing QB in college when Love was drafted.
Having the guy sit for another 2 years is silly. The guy that needs to sit for two years is JJ McCarthy and MN is going to throw him to the wolves on day one.
@H5 posted:I think J. Daniels is/will be the better QB. Their vet WRs will likely be gone when/if Wiiliams gets it. Also, if their online keeps him healthy.
We'll see if the Bears ruin Caleb....They're well on their way by not taking a LT at #9 and I could not be happier.
Packers have Jaire, Valentine & Ballentine plus Stokes and then X at Safety. I'm assuming they will select another one on day 2 here.
I'm not worried
For anyone wondering about the Packers moving up, based on the draft value chart if the Packers wanted to move up in R2, Pick 41 is worth 490 points, and pick 91 is worth 136 points...626 points. Pick 1 of the 2nd round is worth 580 points...Pick 2 is worth 560, Pick 3 is worth 550. They'd probably need those two picks to entice one of those three teams to pull the trigger.
@vitaflo posted:I don't know how the Falcons didn't think they could land Penix. He wasn't mocked high and they always had the 8th pick even before they signed Cousins.
And you're right that Penix was one of the few guys people thought were NFL ready because he spent 6 years (!) playing QB in college. He already had 2 years playing QB in college when Love was drafted.
Having the guy sit for another 2 years is silly. The guy that needs to sit for two years is JJ McCarthy and MN is going to throw him to the wolves on day one.
I just looked this up based on your comment. Jordan Love is only 17 months older than Penix, and has never had a major surgery. Penix has had his throwing shoulder operated on in addition to having to repair both ACLS.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Keenan Allen for a 4th round pick and a 1 year deal at 23 million was a good move.
He's had some missteps (Roquan, Claypool), but otherwise Poles has been doing a really good job of building that roster. They need improvement on the OL but there is a lot of offseason and draft still ahead of them. Their RD1 RT last year was on the all rookie team.
The clincher is whether or not they have the HC and OC to compliment what will be a top 10, possibly top 5 D if they stay healthy. Bears fans and other sources love to point to Mahomes as a comp. Aside from that being an incredible reach because of how good Mahomes is, Mahomes also has a HOF coach and one of the best offensive minds since Walsh.
Below @minakimes left absolutely no meat on this bone.
— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) April 26, 2024
Her points are aligned with a majority of HC/GMs I’ve spoken to in the last 12 hours.
I’ll add one more from a GM “Mr. Blank is how old? (81) He wants to win now…he’s not obsessing over ‘26 and beyond. They have needs now” https://t.co/AeUrRmTzoH
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"I DO KNOW THE PICK
— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) April 26, 2024
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
IT WAS GIFT WRAPPED FOR ME
THE PACKERS DIDN'T DRAFT COOPER DEJEAN" 😂😂 ~ Mad Mel Kiper#PMSDraftSpectacular pic.twitter.com/uvtkXrSXVF
@MichiganPacker2 posted:The Falcons will never admit it, but I assume if they knew they were sure to get Penix they would have never signed Cousins to begin with (and certainly wouldn't have tampered and likely lost draft picks because of it).
If the stuff coming out now is accurate, the Vikings, Saints, Raiders and Seahawks were all trying to trade up with Atlanta for Penix, and the Falcons stunned them all. Yep, the Vikings supposedly had Penix over McCarthy, as well.
Nothing smells of desperation like trading up in a panic and settling for your 3rd or 4th choice QB.
JJ McBisky...
From various folks on Twitter:
The #Packers were just mentioned on NFLN as a team looking to move up to the top of the 2nd round...
@Herschel posted:Yep, the Vikings supposedly had Penix over McCarthy, as well.
The Queenies also had Drake Maye over Penix & McCarthy.
Interesting day yesterday. Wonder when Eliot Wolf will get to drive that Lamborghini in New England? If he had his way, the Pats trade down, then probably back up to get Penix.
@ilcuqui posted:From various folks on Twitter:
The #Packers were just mentioned on NFLN as a team looking to move up to the top of the 2nd round...
None of which is surprising. They did it for Watson.
Cooper DeJean / Kool-Aid McKinstry / Keon Coleman 🤯 / Edgerrin Cooper / Johnny Newton
Edgerrin makes the most sense with the "need" but you can never have enough DBs.
Edit: Forgot one. Johnny Newton.
👇🏼See @Chongo 👇🏼
Taking an OT (especially based on pass-blocking ability) is one of the better ideas you can have in the first round.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 26, 2024
Teams are pretty good at ordering the best of the best there.
Good process. pic.twitter.com/TlKsxDqs7B
Finding all kinds of stuff
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@ilcuqui posted:From various folks on Twitter:
The #Packers were just mentioned on NFLN as a team looking to move up to the top of the 2nd round...
If you believed the news before the draft yesterday there were about 80 teams looking to move up in the top of the 1st round. Only one of them did. MN up one spot.
I wouldn’t believe anything anyone says.
https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-T...t.asp?RequestTeam=GB
LOTS of options for the Packers to move all over the board up or down today.
Possibly snag a couple picks for 2025 draft too
Dejean From Heaven
but hey Josiah Morgan is on the board Jesus fuck
can we get the way back machine and see how IC felt about Joshua Jackson? Just for kicks and giggles...
Rumors floating Bills shopping their pick, backed by rumors they are taking DeJean...not sure if they will actually take him or are just using it as propaganda to gin up interest in the pick.
For the second course, I’ll take some DeJean mustard accompanied with a tall glass of Kool-Aid.
@Floridarob posted:can we get the way back machine and see how IC felt about Joshua Jackson? Just for kicks and giggles...
Nothing from I C here but there are a few interesting opinions.
@Floridarob posted:can we get the way back machine and see how IC felt about Joshua Jackson? Just for kicks and giggles...
Even better....Abdul "The Butcher" Hodge 🤫
Moving right along ....
Official prediction for today:
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) April 26, 2024
41. Marshawn Kneeland
58. Javon Bullard
Others potentially in play:
Cooper DeJean
Maason Smith
Edgerrin Cooper
Junior Colson
Jaden Hicks
Tyler Nubin
Kris Jenkins
Max Melton
Objectively coolest Packers outcomes today:
— Daire Carragher (@DaireCarragher) April 26, 2024
• Bryan Bulaga announces Green Bay selects Cooper DeJean, Iowa
• They draft Max Melton (brother of Bo)
• They draft Jonathon Brooks for vibes
@ammo posted:Nothing from I C here but there are a few interesting opinions.
I'm shocked that most posters liked the pick. Well, not really surprised, it is what most fans do.
I'll speak for the forum and say we're all collectively so glad you are clearly above all that.