Ok so this didn't quite happen... but the Packers did end up with
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) April 28, 2024
Mel Kiper's #1 Safety
Daniel Jeremiah's #1 RB
The Consensus #1 LB
Dane Brugler's #1 Long Snapper
Dane Brugler's #2 Guard (Even if he will start at Tackle) https://t.co/Q3YtR4LRgz
#1 Long Snapper??? That's actually a thing???
@Boris posted:Ok so this didn't quite happen... but the Packers did end up with
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) April 28, 2024
Mel Kiper's #1 Safety
Daniel Jeremiah's #1 RB
The Consensus #1 LB
Dane Brugler's #1 Long Snapper
Dane Brugler's #2 Guard (Even if he will start at Tackle) https://t.co/Q3YtR4LRgz
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@PackLandVA posted:#1 Long Snapper??? That's actually a thing???
Why wouldn't they be evaluated and ranked?
@Pakrz posted:Why wouldn't they be evaluated and ranked?
Was more a pithy, tongue in cheek comment. But what really separates #1 from #2, etc. Don't know that I've ever seen a LS on a draft "big board" and have never seen a specific draft category for LS. Seemed odd to me.
So SI gave out team grades. Bears, A+. Well you better get an A+ when you have 2 in the top 10. But don't worry about depth. Lions, A. Once again the darlings of the NFL and off season champs. Packers, B+. How many players did they draft that were considered the best at that position? Only a B+ ? 
Vikings, C+. Enough said. And just for shits and giggles, Dallas, D+. Worst grade of all 32 teams. Take that Jerry.
@ammo posted:So SI gave out team grades. Bears, A+. Well you better get an A+ when you have 2 in the top 10. But don't worry about depth. Lions, A. Once again the darlings of the NFL and off season champs. Packers, B+. How many players did they draft that were considered the best at that position? Only a B+ ?
Grades are stupid but how can you only have 4 picks in the entire draft and get an A+? Especially when one of them is picking whoever you want 1st overall as if that takes skill? Sure they got their QB and a top WR but did literally nothing else for their team.
Because they aren't grading the whole draft. They are just averaging the grades for each pick.
The proper grade for every team "incomplete".
Granted, for Chicago and Minnesota that will eventually become an F, but that's not official yet.
Teams that don't draft QBs, WRs, or Edge rushers high tend not to get an A in grades the day after a draft. Drafting lineman, inside linebackers, and safeties is boring. There are very few highlights to show.
Last year's draft class had several grades of C at this time last year.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Teams that don't draft QBs, WRs, or Edge rushers high tend not to get an A in grades the day after a draft. Drafting lineman, inside linebackers, and safeties is boring. There are very few highlights to show.
Last year's draft class had several grades of C at this time last year.
Yeah if you look back at 2021, the Bears got an A+ then in that draft as well, the year they drafted Fields.
Only 3 players from that draft are still playing for the Bears. Two OL's, which we know how bad their O-Line has been, and their RB who in his first year starting last year had 600 yards and 2 TDs.
But no doubt they got an A+ only because of Fields.
"Grades" are stupid immediately after the draft. You all know the drill - 3 years to grade a draft.
It takes a real jeeenyus to draft Caleb Williams & then Rome Odunze #1 & #9.
I've already told my Bear fan friends....."I know Odunze is the "sexy " pick....but Poles really screwed up by not taking a franchise LT at #9 along with his #1 QB."
I'm glad! Let's see if Caleb can get the ball out of his hands. He isn't going to have a lot of time to do that as it stands right now.
@Boris posted:I've already told my Bear fan friends....."I know Odunze is the "sexy " pick....but Poles really screwed up by not taking a franchise LT at #9 along with his #1 QB."
So much this. Caleb is throwing to nobody if he can't stay upright. And you already have Keenen Allen and DJ Moore.
Picking a WR over an OT, in one of the deepest O-Line drafts in a while, should automatically disqualify them from getting an A on the draft.
They can't still suck if they aren't still doing stupid things.
🏈🧑🏻🎓 I´ve compiled 20 evaluations of the 2024 NFL draft and totaled the team grades.
— René Bugner (@RNBWCV) April 28, 2024
Here is the spreadsheet. Sorted by GPA for all 32 teams.
I also sorted the 20 evaluations by GPA. From left (soft graders) to right (hard graders).
Thanks to all who give out grades every year! pic.twitter.com/53EozhxKQT
Grades....😁
@vitaflo posted:Grades are stupid
I know. It is just something to look at, not really believe in. The Pack got 4 of the best players in their position that also filled a great need. And when you get to draft what many called the 8th best QB in the 7th round how is that not a A pick? And the Vikings should be even lower when you consider what they got and had to give up in 2025, having only 3 choices next year, to get those guys. Being the draft is in Green Bay next year maybe that is not so bad, no Viking fans may show up.
Motion to unpin the draft/picks threads from the “Featured Topics” section.
Yeah....I'm on it....was waiting until end of Sunday. 🫡👍🏼
The Falcons had Michael Penix Jr. ranked as the second-best QB in the class, per @JFowlerESPN
— SleeperNFL (@SleeperNFL) April 28, 2024
Atlanta had graded Penix Jr. as the draft’s best “pure passer”. pic.twitter.com/L1yjpPvVAt
Redskins sign former Notre Dame QB Sam Hartman to a $20,000 signing bonus / $225,000 base salary guarantee to be there #3 and possibly #2 if he beats out Marcus Mariota, Jeff Driskel and Jake Fromm (assuming Chase Daniels starts).
I think Penix is the second best qb for arm talent and that, but he is very injured. maybe redshirting for a bit, he can recoup strength and avoid injury. some of the throws I saw his make are definitely elite and for sure NFL talent.
@Boris posted:"Grades" are stupid immediately after the draft. You all know the drill - 3 years to grade a draft.
It takes a real jeeenyus to draft Caleb Williams & then Rome Odunze #1 & #9.
I've already told my Bear fan friends....."I know Odunze is the "sexy " pick....but Poles really screwed up by not taking a franchise LT at #9 along with his #1 QB."
I'm glad! Let's see if Caleb can get the ball out of his hands. He isn't going to have a lot of time to do that as it stands right now.
The Bears O-line is decent as they got Ryan Bates and Matt Pryor to shore up the middle and they drafted a high-upside LT prospect in Amegadjie. The Bears days of being a doormat are likely ending soon and this will get back to being a real rivalry, which would be fun because fuck the Vikings.
So how much better would the O-Line look if they took a LT at #9 overall? Maybe the guy they picked will be a decade long LT 🤷♂️.
Drafting O-Line in the first round has proven quite effective for many teams over the years. High rate of success....NOT busts. Later rounds....good luck
Also.....they won 7 games last year. Mostly with defense. You still need to protect your QB
Braxton Jones is decent at LT so they weren't desperate, Alt was gone and Odunze would be the #1 receiver in a draft without Harrison.
The punter pick was the real headscratcher, but they got good prospects otherwise. Booker could be a solid rotational DE.
Their RD1 pick last year at RT was on the all rookie team, FWIW.
A lot of the problems they had on offense were tied to Fields holding the ball too long because he wasn't reading the field quickly enough and getting rid of it when he was supposed to. His biggest fault was not being able to read the D and throw with anticipation to his receivers. Williams is supposedly a lot better in that regard though he does sometimes hold the ball too long too. But more in a AR way in that he's trying to create big plays. Their new OC Waldron will have a lot to say in how that offense is designed and run because Eberflus is a D guy.
They should at least break even though that 17th game could fall either way. I'll say 6 or 7 wins if Williams doesn't settle early and 9 if he does. Their D should keep them in a lot of games. If CW has more of a Stroud like rookie year, they're a playoff team.
Harrison wasn't a consensus #1WR. Some had Odunze or Nabers above him.
@Herschel posted:Braxton Jones is decent at LT so they weren't desperate, Alt was gone and Odunze would be the #1 receiver in a draft without Harrison.
The punter pick was the real headscratcher, but they got good prospects otherwise. Booker could be a solid rotational DE.
We might have to do a "bro" podcast 😆.
It would be great.... First podcast would probably have about 10 viewers.
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I know Bob McGinn stands by his reports. He talks to legit scouts and he's never going to give them up.
So Chris Ballard can go on an expletive filled rant all he wants. This isn't McGinn saying shit...he got those thoughts from legit scouts of NFL teams.
Sounds like Mitchell clearly needs to keep his Type 1 diabetes under control. He'll find his way....and if he doesn't.... he'll flame out. It's pretty simple.
let's grow up to be like ballard kids...nice example there bud. i get it if you are out with your gm buddies lettin er rip, but be professional man.
Just wondering if a FA CB like Stephon Gilmore would be too rich for the Packers blood? He isn't the shut down Corner he used to be but he's still pretty serviceable.
I'd like to see us find one more decent Vet at either Corner or LB...or maybe both? 😄 Then I think Hafley will be ready to roll.
@pkr_north posted:let's grow up to be like ballard kids...nice example there bud. i get it if you are out with your gm buddies lettin er rip, but be professional man.
Him and Sean Payton should be drinking buddies
@pkr_north posted:let's grow up to be like ballard kids...nice example there bud.
Colts owner Jim Irsay is not a patient man and the pressure on Ballard to produce has to be getting unbearable. Ballard isn't handling it well, as you noted
The other part of his rant is that most of these scout comments used to be private, but now become public via McGinn and many others. Players and their families aren't used to seeing these often "raw" comments from area scouts.
Kinda like that scene in moneyball
