Not interested in reliving the 2010 Super Bowl run or even the the 2012 Kaepernick playoff debacle.
My question, how with all the resources devoted to this defense (4 straight first round picks, 7 of the last 9 1st & 2nd round picks, the only free agents TT has signed in a decade) can MM & TT continue to justify keeping a guy whose defense gives up record yardage game after game and year after year?
Can those who believe explain what the rest of us are missing?
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Or the development part is not working?
I don't think we have too many DOM fans left.
We're all sick & tired of seeing teams march up & down the field on this defense.
I don't get it. I don't know what happened to our 6-0 football team that was playing GREAT defense before the Charger game
I don't think we have too many DOM fans left.
We're all sick & tired of seeing teams march up & down the field on this defense.
I don't get it. I don't know what happened to our 6-0 football team that was playing GREAT defense before the Charger game
We played crappy teams.
I don't think we have too many DOM fans left.
We're all sick & tired of seeing teams march up & down the field on this defense.
I don't get it. I don't know what happened to our 6-0 football team that was playing GREAT defense before the Charger game
There were a couple warning signs before the game against the Chargers. They let the Chiefs make it competitive at the end, and they were giving up a lot of yards on the ground. With that said though, I was still feeling pretty good about this defense, even after the Chargers game. They've just completely imploded over the past two games. One of the strangest meltdowns I've ever seen a team have.
I don't get it. I don't know what happened to our 6-0 football team that was playing GREAT defense before the Charger game
We've seen this episode before. It's brief cock teasing of well played run D followed by stretches where suddenly no one can tackle and there is no pressure to speak of to the QB.
GB has 4 straight divisional games where despite this schit show we saw today I still believe they win 3 out of 4 of those if not all 4. The Lions are just that bad and we get the Bears at home.
So that puts GB at 9-3 or 10-2. And many forget what a smoke and mirrors D this is. Until playoff time and then we are grimly reminded once again.
This unit is shaping up a lot like the 2012 defense. They had a lot of good stretches where they played well, well enough to fool me into believing they had put 2011 behind them. There were bad signs along the way, but they played well enough to make a lot of us believe they could win a title. We were all talking Super Bowl after that 55-7 thrashing of the Titans in week 16. Then Peterson rolled up a ton of yards again in week 17, and they pissed away a bye against a garbage Vikings team. Adrian Peterson rushed for 409 yards against them in 2 games; then they managed to hold him to 99 yards in the WC game, giving him just over 500 rushing yards against the Packers. Then Colin Kaepernick happened.
The thing is, I have no doubt that Capers will not survive this time around. Mike McCarthy is putting his own job on the line if he decides to roll with Capers after another Kaepernicking in the playoffs. Capers won't survive another melt-down. It's just a shame that once it comes, we'll all know that it came about 3-4 years too late.
Been done with Capers for years....just waiting for MM to finally come to his senses. Sadly, it won't be happening this season
I don't get it. I don't know what happened to our 6-0 football team that was playing GREAT defense before the Charger game
Jay Cutler: 1-12 lifetime vs Green Bay. Still put up 23 and had to hold our breath to recover an onsides kick
Russell Wilson: Defense played well admittedly in this game. But, I contend Wilson is not a guy that wins games without Lynch and that Defense. They played Lynch well, no denying that.
Alex Smith: Wouldn't have done a thing without Charles.
Kaepernick: Benched for Blaine Gabbert. Even Dom Capers couldn't get him out of his slump
Nick Foles: Yet another in a long line of "good enough to lose you the game" QBs
Philip Rivers: Won, but allowed 500 yards.
Russell Wilson was the best QB you faced prior to the Chargers game. Since then Rivers, Manning, and now Newton destroyed us. The best part is that Manning has looked like garbage against everyone else, and Newton hasn't been anything all that special this year. Frankly, a good QB puts 50+ up there today. Newton left a ton of points out there.
No problem with firing Dom, but Perry and Whitt should go as well.
Dom isn't a good defensive coordinator.
The evidence is overwhelming
MM says "nothing wrong with our team" after the game--If MM can't see that Gom Dumpers is not getting the job done then MM believes a one legged man has a chance in as ass kicking contest!!Criminetly Mike--WAKE THE f*** UP!! a delusional coach does not blame his system or lack of proper planning on his part--No, because to do so would invalidate his knowledge, judgement and lack of perception--INSTEAD HE BLAMES HIS PLAYERS!! Well Mike you are supposed to have them trained and motivated so your comment reflects directly back on You--YOU just cannot see it because you are caught in the " I AM THE MAIN MAN SO I AM NOT WRONG" psychological trap.
Yeah, it killed the Ravens when they fired their offensive coordinator Cam Cameron on December 12, 2012, they barely (just barely) won the Super Bowl 7 weeks later.
Newton was not special today, good thing
Capers is a guy who survives on past glories. He was a dynamo in his time with Pittsburgh, and managed to do some good stuff after that. 2010 was his last hurrah as a coordinator. What happens with a lot of these older coaches is that they start to refuse to change their approach, and they lose their ability to connect with younger players. When things go bad, they go very, very bad. Wade Phillips is a rarity in that he still adjusts to the modern game, and his players still love playing for him.
Capers is a guy who survives on past glories. He was a dynamo in his time with Pittsburgh, and managed to do some good stuff after that. 2010 was his last hurrah as a coordinator. What happens with a lot of these older coaches is that they start to refuse to change their approach, and they lose their ability to connect with younger players. When things go bad, they go very, very bad. Wade Phillips is a rarity in that he still adjusts to the modern game, and his players still love playing for him.
Wades lads have given up 17 so far in Indy
This unit is shaping up a lot like the 2012 defense. They had a lot of good stretches where they played well, well enough to fool me into believing they had put 2011 behind them. There were bad signs along the way, but they played well enough to make a lot of us believe they could win a title. We were all talking Super Bowl after that 55-7 thrashing of the Titans in week 16. Then Peterson rolled up a ton of yards again in week 17, and they pissed away a bye against a garbage Vikings team. Adrian Peterson rushed for 409 yards against them in 2 games; then they managed to hold him to 99 yards in the WC game, giving him just over 500 rushing yards against the Packers. Then Colin Kaepernick happened.
The thing is, I have no doubt that Capers will not survive this time around. Mike McCarthy is putting his own job on the line if he decides to roll with Capers after another Kaepernicking in the playoffs. Capers won't survive another melt-down. It's just a shame that once it comes, we'll all know that it came about 3-4 years too late.
And that's why he's the 
He's had MM fooled that he can take them to the promised land when the reality is they are on the tarmac and there not going anywhere.
If GB gets to the SB it will be in spite of Capers. Not because of him. This team is Atlanta 2.0. They will rack up wins in a schitty division and if at home, and IF this team is healthy, they'll win one AT HOME playoff game.
Then reality will set in. Yet again. And McStupid face will stand around wondering what just happened.
No problem with firing Dom, but Perry and Whitt should go as well.
What do you want to ax him?
IF this team is healthy, they'll win one AT HOME playoff game.
If playoffs started today, we're a 2 seed, likely facing AZ at home in the divisional round.
Do you see us winning that game?
Another feather in the cap of the ole Dom Defense. Broncos offense with 83 yards of offense and 0 points thus far this week and it's nearly half time. They're offense has been inept in every game this season....except the week they played GB of course.
I'm sure a lot of posters here will scream at me for this comment, but would it really hurt to fire a 65 year old toupee-wearing white guy who coaches a defense featuring 10 black starters, many of whom are roughly 1/3rd his age (and all but one are less than 1/2 his age)? Maybe players will relate better to a guy like Darren Perry or Winston Moss. We're always hearing about these damn "communication issues" they're endlessly having. Why not just take a chance with a guy who may be able to "communicate" with these players? I know that none of this is going to happen, but I sure wish it would at this point.
Another feather in the cap of the ole Dom Defense. Broncos offense with 83 yards of offense and 0 points thus far this week and it's nearly half time. They're offense has been inept in every game this season....except the week they played GB of course.
True, and the Packers offense didn't show either.
IF this team is healthy, they'll win one AT HOME playoff game.
If playoffs started today, we're a 2 seed, likely facing AZ at home in the divisional round.
Do you see us winning that game?
Nope.
Atlanta yes. Minnesota probably.
Giants? Maybe.
Arizona? No. Panthers? No.
MM says "nothing wrong with our team" after the game--
It sure doesn't help when our players are fighting amongst themselves. Capers/McCarthy are losing control. You expect to see this kind of thing in Dallas but not here.
You forgot to call me "ageist" too. Can't forget to throw that one in. Low hanging fruit, bruh. If you really want to go all out, hit the unabridged dictionary to find out what bias against toupée wearers is called and toss that one in.
P.s, LOL @ the idea that this defense is going to "respond." Doing/seeing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result is the literal definition of insanity. This kind of talk made sense in 2011 and 2012. I did lots of it myself. No more.
If Dom Capers needs to be hand held then he's the wrong man for the job. Period.
I agree with you that firing him at this point doesn't change much, but regardless of how the season goes, it's time for a wholesale change on that side of the ball come the off season. A legit DC shouldn't need to be hand held at this point in his career.
Someone else. It would be the same process that has happened a thousand times in the game, when a guy has demonstrated (time and time again) he is ineffective, you replace him. Even better idea, you don't wait to damn long to replace him. If the reason you don't ****can a guy is because there is an unkown, that that is another problem.
Lets go through all the other excuses and justifications.
All those yards and points happened in garbage time, I'm not worried about those.
Yards don't matter. The fact that they hemorrhaged yards is not a big deal.
To many rookies.
Not enough talant.
but 2010
What's he supposed to do, walk on the field like a Pop Warner coach?
Scheme is fine, players just are not making plays.
At some point, a defense that cannot close with authority, or adjust to personnel, or get the job done has to fall on a common deDOMinator. If we see the same mistakes week after week, year after year, then perhaps the guy steering the ship might bea problem. If Dom requires a defense of all 4 year vet all stars in order to field a good squad, the move on.
The last straw has to be that Dom refuses to play Janis.
Not to mention his fricken hairpiece
It is probably a combination of many things. The scheme might be too bland, the players especially at the DL and Linebacker positions are undertalented (outside of Clay), and the GM is poor at drafting DL and Linebackers.
Raji had a good game 1 to start the season, but he is back being a giant powderpuff. Peppers is old and does more harm than good and there are numerous deficiencies outside of these two players as well.
They should have addressed MLB early in the draft last season (there were several quality guys available). DL they seem to address every draft, but they just suck at hitting on these picks.
the status quo is not going to work here. he must go. put in whitt and see what happens, at the end of the year, re-evaluate. if you continue with this guy, you are allowing the players to continue playing like they are. this is not accptable and someone has to be accountable, MM is here for a while, but dc is not untouchable.
