On another note, I even feel like this thread got hijacked.
The title is "Badgers to final four" and the discussion is all about "one and done" which is a kind of player this Badger team that this topic is about does not even have one.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
where the tension is for some is that "one and done" is just a game. A farce. These are players who are not going to college to get a degree. They are also kids, fresh out of high school.
if you mean being a student is a farce, exactly. That is not the students fault. The students use the university because that is the option the NCAA and NBA gave them to use. The only alternative would be to go to Europe when you are 18, and that isn't exactly appealing either.
Getting your high flying buddies to ride along at Kentucky with a coach known to get guys into the pro's is a brilliant plan. They may never be student athletes, but they aren't dum.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
On another note, I even feel like this thread got hijacked.
pretty sure we need to defer to SDPF as to what the topic of this thread is.
You dip****s have a team in the final four.....How bout focusing on that? Then hump each others legs about Bo's lack of recruiting. Jesus **** you whiney ****s would bitch if your ice cream was too cold.
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
On another note, I even feel like this thread got hijacked.
pretty sure we need to defer to SDPF as to what the topic of this thread is.
Nah. I don't need to defer to SDPF.
Regardless of his or anyone else's opinions, I'll stand firm with respect to my own conviction that "one and done" has virtually nothing to do with "Badgers in final 4."
If SDPF thinks otherwise, I'll just respectfully disagree.
So I shot 'em down, one by one
And left 'em 'long the rails
I only use my gun
Whenever kindness fails
GO BUCKY!! Grateful Red Rules!!
Originally Posted by Iowacheese:
You dip****s have a team in the final four.....How bout focusing on that? Then hump each others legs about Bo's lack of recruiting. Jesus **** you whiney ****s would bitch if your ice cream was too cold.
Badgers were lucky to make the tourney. Kaminsky fell into Bo's lap. Take away the last 4 wins and WI isn't even in the Final 4.
No Ryan was in the final 2 for JP Tokoto- there was a lit if speculation that JP was a one and done candidate. Tokotonis still at UNC, and I think the reason is he was at least partly committed as a student. Ryan said to really like him and his family, so no NBA dreams scare him away.
Guts like Wiggins, or Randle? I would be shocked if Wiggins attended any classes since the end of the first semester. I have heard this is common amongst the one and done players- just get through the 1st and then not care.
Guts like Wiggins, or Randle? I would be shocked if Wiggins attended any classes since the end of the first semester. I have heard this is common amongst the one and done players- just get through the 1st and then not care.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
I'll stand firm with respect to my own conviction that "one and done" has virtually nothing to do with "Badgers in final 4."
Well no **** Sherlock. Do you have any more convictions based on completely obvious cicumstances? Any idea if water might be still be wet?
You and al can laugh at all those people who thought Hayes and Bronson were going pro.
Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:
Cauley-Stein 7'0"
Johnson 7'0"
Randall 6'9"
Poythress 6'8"
All well and good, but those guys better have their track shoes on. Frank Kaminsky and Sam Dekker don't stand around at the post waiting to be defended.
El:
Well no **** Sherlock. Do you have any more convictions based on completely obvious cicumstances? Any idea if water might be still be wet?
The initiator of the absurd was YOU and my response was a quid pro quo that was PRECISELY in proportion to your absurdity.
pretty sure we need to defer to SDPF as to what the topic of this thread is.
Hey Goaline,
espn said yesterday that Stein is likely out.
IC sure spends a lot of time talking Badgers basketball. Maybe he's a closet fan? Yeah that's the ticket
The initiator of the absurd was YOU and my response was a quid pro quo that was PRECISELY in proportion to your absurdity.
still not sure if water is wet.
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
Hey Goaline,
espn said yesterday that Stein is likely out.
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Stein probably won't play
Posted on March 31. Clearly you came into this thread late and I beat ESPN.
Stien is still more athletic than the Badgers. I've not seen him play, but he is on Kentucky's team and likely to go pro after his freshman year.
It will be interesting to see if the absurd, raw athleticsim of Kentucky gets derailed by a deliberate, disciplined Badgers team. That, of course, assumes the Badgers play deliberate and disciplined. It's also not as if the Badgers lack athleticism either.
It's interesting how many pro coaches and former players are not enamored with AAU and the "development" guys get there.
I think AAU makes the NCAA look like the Vatican*.
(The good Vatican, all papally and such, not the gross stuff.)
Hey Herschel...
I am hoping Wisconsin's offensive scheme drives those young freshmen nuts!!! Patient offense, sharp passing.
If the UW offense does not frustrate Kentucky mentally, I kind of think the Badger's chance of winning ain't so good.
The Dirty Dub!!
"Among the benefits, JD points out that it’s now possible to demonstrate your commitment to the UW without having to set your beer down."
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
Hey Goaline,
espn said yesterday that Stein is likely out.
His replacement is a kid names Lee. He scored something like 10 points against Michigan, all on put back dunks. Really athletic.
Originally Posted by Tschmack:
IC sure spends a lot of time talking Badgers basketball. Maybe he's a closet fan? Yeah that's the ticket
He is in a closet alright.
Originally Posted by Tdog:
The Dirty Dub!!
"Among the benefits, JD points out that it’s now possible to demonstrate your commitment to the UW without having to set your beer down."
Yeah baby! My wife was on the same flight as Barry Alvarez yesterday.
Good catch goalline
Two puns in one response but I couldn't bear to add another one about male stripping or the obsession over posting midget pics. He takes enough abuse; he lives in Iowa for cripes sake!
Two puns in one response but I couldn't bear to add another one about male stripping or the obsession over posting midget pics. He takes enough abuse; he lives in Iowa for cripes sake!
My daughter once waited on Barry Alvarez when she worked at Jordan's Big Ten. Barry was a very good tipper.
Originally Posted by Tdog:
So I shot 'em down, one by one
And left 'em 'long the rails
I only use my gun
Whenever kindness fails
GO BUCKY!! Grateful Red Rules!!
wow....a Robert Earl Keen reference. From his "A Bigger Piece of Sky" CD...."Whenever Kindness Fails"....the entire CD is a good listen...crank-up "Amarillo Highway"!!1
--oops...off topic...ahh...that doesn't bother El-Ka...he'll just ramble on about whatever anyway...and then pout in the corner about it
now, carry on....
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Originally Posted by phaedrus:
On another note, I even feel like this thread got hijacked.
pretty sure we need to defer to SDPF as to what the topic of this thread is.
Nah. I don't need to defer to SDPF.
Regardless of his or anyone else's opinions, I'll stand firm with respect to my own conviction that "one and done" has virtually nothing to do with "Badgers in final 4."
If SDPF thinks otherwise, I'll just respectfully disagree.
no...I don't think otherwise...you are correct, sir! The thread was side-tracked by the discussion of "one-n-doners"....I had added an opinion on that...then, El-Ka wanted to take it further out...and get more off-threadish...El-ka got his feelings hurt...
My wife was on a plane with Robert Earl Keen but as far as I know my daughter never waited on him.
I made my daughter wait for chocolate milk, which she is keen for, but she just pouted in a corner.
quote:Yeah baby! My wife was on the same flight as Barry Alvarez yesterday.
It's a good thing she wasn't on the same flight as Bret Bielema.
http://www.doorcountydailynews...=120867#.Uz7Sj1fJHvo
Badgers Coach Bo Ryan will be coaching in his first ever Final Four. His best quote from media day was in reference to one and done players (college players that declare for the NBA after one year in NCAA Basketball), “…when my mom would give me a pork chop or a piece of meatloaf and I would ask for another piece and she would say, No, one and done.”
Cauly Stein had his boot removed and gave up the crutches today....reports are he MAY be available
To me the two key factors in the game are how the Badgers rebound because Kentucky has dominated the glass and how Kentucky defends Kaminisky because if Stein can't go they really don't have a guy that can step out and defend him on the perimeter.
Kentucky has a lot of athleticism but they didn't defend Michigan very well at times and the way the Badgers spread the floor and set up for 3s it'll be interesting to see how that goes
Sam needs to play a big game, someone needs to take the pressure off Kaminsky, to me Dekker is the key. If he can consistently be a effective offensive threat Frank will get all he can eat. He has had his moments in the tourney but has disappeared for stretches also. Kentucky is big, Bo may need to play Dekker, Frank and Hayes at the same time for many minutes.