Call Your Shot

Scouring the net looking at mock drafts. Almost everyone has CJ Mosley mocked to the Packers at #21, with Brandin Cooks to the Chiefs at #23 & Hageman to the Patriots at #29. 

 

If one of the top corners drops into #21, I find it hard to believe TT would pass on that selection.

 

Worse case scenario is only 1 or 2 QB's going in the top 20. I think 3 for sure (Manziel, Bortles & Carr) are gone by the time we pick at #21.

 

I'm looking for the Niners to trade up either with us or in front of us (possibly way up as high as 10-11!). No way they keep all those picks because they won't all make the team. It's a waste if they don't trade up.

 

Falcons might try to jump to #1 to get Clowney. Funny how the "Bortles to Texans" at #1 rumor is now dead.

 

Only 3 days left boys & girls!

Sounds like CJ Mosley won't be the pick.

Exactly GBFFL. No way.

 

Honestly, I can see the Bills grabbing Mosley at #9. Or the Titans, Giants, Bears or Steelers. He fits all those teams long before he gets to #21.

 

So if Mosley is gone....Someone drops to us at #21! Your turn to figure it out

WR or CB.  I think it's simply going to be the best value position at 21.  The only other scenario is if other teams don't go all idiotic like a vajeens and overvalue some of these QBs and instead look to move back up into the first to grab a guy like Carr, etc., and even then I think it's foolish.

 

I think guys like Shazier and maybe even Mosely are going to be there in the second.  I personally want nothing to do with Aaryan Shazbin but it other teams lacking discipline think they are being smart by moving back into the end of the first round to pick a bunch of 2nd or 3rd round QBs, more power to Strokey Teddy.

If Zack Martin is available, he'd be a tough one to pass up at #21.

I am just not fully convinced Bulaga is going to have too many healthy years left. You can never have too many healthy young OT...just like you can never have too many good young CB.

 

As much as we bitch about ILB...the reality is, it may not be as big of a need as we think, in the minds of ROTTT and MM.

I think you all will be surprised where Mosley ends up going. I have a hunch it will be early/mid round 2. I could way off estimating his value, but you have to be a REALLY good ILB to go that high and I don't see Mosley in the same category as Kuechly, Willis, Timmons, Mayo, or Derrick Johnson (ILBs that all went in the top 20 in the last 10 years). Add in some of the underachieving Alabama LBs that have been drafted the last couple of years like Rolando McClain, Courtney Upshaw, and Dont'a Hightower and I have a hard time seeing Mosely get over-drafted. He's good, but he's not that good.

 

I agree with you in part.  I think the biggest fault is the constant line shuffling.  Put Tretter in and keep him in at C and remain at C.  Don't try to maximize his versatility, make him learn C.  There's already a big enough challenge with the coaching.  Don Barclay is not a realistic option to just hop in at G or C, not without dedicated training and practice at the position and even then it's not ideal.  Versatility is great but when that's all you focus on you get mediocre play across the entire line.  The coaching as well as a the drafted talent levels on the interior of the line do not make for some dynamic wonder line that I keep hearing about.  

 

Take your guys and put them into a position, slate your backups and drill, drill, drill at those specific positions.  Campen is good for one thing, rote learning.   

 

Good points about the other ILB's drafted before #20 the last decade. I agree Mosley isn't that caliber. It would be very interesting seeing Mosley still on the board at the top of round 2. 

 

All I believe is, I don't think he's the selection at #21.

 

Great post by Hank too about the O-Line. Stop the "versatile" garbage. Coaches need to put all players in a position to succeed. Focus & STOMP the opponents guts out!

I like Tretter. And I base my like of the guy on the simple reason GB saw enough of him late last year to justify allowing EDS to go to elsewhere. If the coaches think he can play, I think he can play.

 

Barclay and Bulaga are FA's after this year. Bulaga has question marks after the injuries. Sherrod is a question mark period. GB has 12 O-Lineman on the roster as of today. Gerhart is the backup C but Lang could slide over if it came to that.

 

While this is probably the deepest pool of OL going into camp in terms of bodies in a while it's not a particularly deep talent pool past the starting 5. Are there 2 guys in this draft that are more capable backups than Barclay? That's kind of where my bar is set for addressing the OL. Good starting 5. Barclay and two picks and maybe Sherrod (if he get's through camp) wouldn't be bad. I like Richburg because he's played a little of everywhere on the line beyond C. Is TT likely going OL in round 2 if he's not able to swing a deal and aquire more early round picks? It would be way out of his MO. 

 

 

CB and OL, key positions with talent that may drop due to QB, Clowney, Mack sweepstakes.  

 

WR, position with some of best true BPA talent.  

Ted has done a great job at picking a WR and not having to pick one in the 1st round. This is a deep draft at WR so he may be able to get a couple of good ones. Jordy and Jennings were great finds in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Terrence Murphy would have been special in the 2nd if not getting hurt. With his track record I am hoping a great defensive player in the first and then a TE or WR in the 2nd. LB or WR in the 3rd and just depth after that.

The coaches have been wrong before, but they know about 10,000 times more about the game of football than does this whole board .

Don't agree with this at all. Sometimes the number is closer to 20,000. 

We did pretty well last year getting an undervalued bama player...I would be ok with that scenario playing out again this year.  

 

Agree with rain-Boris and the rest of the leg humping crew.....never enough good DB's

 

Lot of players I like in this draft up and down my bored.

 

WR on my bored looks stacked.   he went to Jared AbberWTF if his melon checks would be a nice fit in packerland in R4

 

The more I look at him, the more I am starting to agree. I'm beginning to think there is a better chance that we take someone like Van Noy or Shazier & play them on the inside, they are playmakers which I question whether Mosley is. 

There's a good chance Mosley ends up in Chicago at 14. I don't get the McLain, Upshaw, or Hightower argument. If that's the case then GB never should have drafted Lacy after Ingram and Richardson. Mosley has exceptional LB instincts and a rock solid work ethic. Mayock has him ranked as the 11th best player in this draft. 

 

I thought leading up to the draft that teams were throwing a smokescreen at Mosley and that he would eventually go between 10 and 15 and Calvin Pryor would do the opposite and drop.

 

Pryor or Shazier would be fine. But Mosley is going to be a really good inside linebacker for a long time. 

Chilihighwayjon says so...then it mus be so

I gotta' lay off the mock sites. I'm starting to post things like I know what the eff I'm talking about.... 

 

Either that or I want Mosley to be a Packer and be good because of my deeply rooted hatred of AJ Hawk. 

 

None of this would be happening if the draft was 2 weeks ago Roger!

My preferred choice that year

 

Draft is so late this year that Jon is already gameplanning his 5-star firework display in the neighborhood that's coming up in a few weeks.

I was also a big fan of

 

 

 

So I know wtf I am talking about....and suck it Johnny Z....I love Tedd Ginnjr

Really easy to see how Dix would fit in the hole gb's defense has.

I'm thinking Mike Evans, possibly a QB. They might surprise and grab Ebron that early.

 

Oh, wait a minute.  Are we talking about the Bucs or the Packers??? The Packers you say. Oh, then I have no idea.

This is the 2014 Niners, not the 1976 Steelers. Every team in the NFL can stand to upgrade the bottom 1/4 of their roster. 11 picks? I'd keep them all unless there is someone you really want to go get. Six picks in the first 3 rounds is gold. Keep them all and improve the roster. None of them will be wasted unless they are just bad picks.

 

Absolutely! The question is will they? I'll bet they have at least 40-43 players they don't/won't want to cut. They going to hit on every draft pick? Doubtful. They could easily turn those 1st 6 picks into 3-4 solid players on higher rated tiers. To me, that makes more sense with their current roster. IMO JMO

 

If there was ever a draft for TT to trade back to get a couple of 2nd rounders this is the year for it.  Lots of quality depth from about 20-50 this year. 

 

Thompson is on record saying he prefers to allow the draft to come to him.  I take that to mean he's patient and is OK with not making bold moves (i.e. giving away picks to move up) as long as they work their board. 

 

As much as we "need" defensive players like safety and LB if there's a good WR or TE or OL there it wouldn't surprise me to see TT take one of those guys early.   The BPA approach tends to eliminate a lot of the reaching you see other teams do from time to time.

 

Mosley or Pryor would seem like the obvious choice(s) if they stay at 21 and either guy is available but if another player fell to them they really like all bets are off.  If I had to guess I would say Nix from ND would be high on their list and I like Dennard or Fuller if there at 21 as well.

 

Van Noy and Borland (and others) will be there in R2

Lacy/Ingram/Richardson is apples/oranges with Mosley/McClain/etc. Lacy was picked in the middle of r2 which lowers the bust factor tremendously. Even then Lacy was a gamble, you look at the 4 Alabama RBs that have been drafted recently (Lacy, Richardson, Ingram, Coffee) and only Lacy has not been a bust. The same question surrounds Mosley except you're talking about taking Mosley in the top 20, big difference. Alabama is such a talented team top to bottom that players get opportunities to make plays that most college and pro players don't get. It's the only team where I truly don't think you can trust the film. I think the NFL is catching on to that and that's why we saw Courtney Upshaw and Eddie Lacy last until round 2 and it's why I don't think we will see an Alabama player taken in the top 20.

San Fran has been churning picks for a couple of years for just this eventuality. They've built a darned good team but the bills are coming due so replacements will be needed. I could see them making a move for a corner who can play right away, for example, and while the Gabbert move was shrewd they could also grab a QB relatively early as Kaepernick insurance.

From Packer Update (Truer words have never been spoken):

 

You’ve probably noticed how few stories I’ve posted on the draft. That’s because I’m simply not qualified to give opinions on players I don’t know enough about. For example, I didn’t go to any Northern Illinois games last season and I don’t have access to that school’s All-22 videos. So how do I know what kind of safety Jimmie Ward will be in the pros? I don’t. Sure I could watch highlights on You Tube or look over his combine numbers or read the opinions of others. Or I could go one step further and re-watch some games on TV, but even that’s not going to help very much. While the tube is OK to check out linemen, running backs and to a lesser extent quarterbacks, tight ends and linebackers, you need to see the entire field when dealing with wide receivers and defensive backs. Otherwise, your opinion is about as valuable as a Mario Mendoza baseball card. And yet I can’t turn on the radio at this time of year without hearing some know-nothing blogger pretend that he knows everything about the draft. It’s an absolute joke. You know when I’ll give you my opinion on the players general manager Ted Thompson selects next week? After I go to training camp this summer and actually see them with my own eyes.

Exactly.  This is why this thread (and the moron who started it) are all stupid or something

I think you'll see Alabama defensive players fall this year.  They have a pretty poor recent track record.  Mark Barron, Dee Milliner, Courtney Upshaw, Donte Hightower, Terrance Cody, Rolando McClain, and Dre Kirkpatrick have not lived up to their draft position.  That's quite a list and I think NFL teams have noticed.  I think Dix and Mosley will fall and I hope TT passes on them.  

 

My hope is Ebron, Pryor, Shazier, Hageman, or Beckham.  

One theory often bandied about Alabama players, especially Alabama defensive players, is that Saban and Co. really are top-notch coaches and when players leave ‘Bama they’re already near their ceiling as far as development and potential go.

Saban's NFL record should probably put a halt to that theory.

 

If they make a move up in round 1 it would most likely be for Darqueze

Love that kid. He can cover and he can hit. Reminds me of a bigger faster Antwan Winfield.

Guys I hope GB drafts:

 

Darqueze Dennard

 

Noted.

 

 

All Pro LT Gabe Carimi.

Is this guy still on your couch? 

 

I had forgotten about the couch. Yes he is.