Can we finally admit that this is an elite team?

With that said, I'm totally expecting a 69-3 loss against Matty Ice next week!!!!!! 

Elite team. Elite Operation. 

No!

• Don Compers somehow able to out strategize the immortal Lombardi-esque Belichick and to hold the up and coming Minneapolis Zimmers to under 25 points.

He held the Peterson-less Vikings to under 25! Wowza!!! Happy days are here again!

 

In all honesty, I gotta hand it to the Dominator, he did a fantastic job today.

 

And yes, BB is still a better coach than MM. Until MM gets to that 5th SB, that'll be the case. 1 down, 4 to go.

your coach lost today

Our coach won

End of story 

my coach...gimme a friggin' break.

 

your LT is delivering pizzas right now

 

and that, my friends, is the rest of the story

It's easy to knock Dom and his scheme, etc. But his defense this year has only given up more than 24 points twice this year. And only more than 21 two other times. Seattle just flat out beat them.  But the Saints don't score 44 if Rodgers doesn't tweak the hammy. 

That's all ya got ?

Sheesh dude, that's kinda weak even for you. Take your time, give it some thought and come back with some better material. This is an elite team board.

 

re: Packland

 

So, are you saying this team's success is based more on Rodgers than the coaches?

I know you tend to react negatively when anyone suggests the possibility that someone outside the organization may be better than their counterpart inside the organization. I'll try to be more aware of your sensibilities in the future.

I think the D has turned the corner.  Its no coincidence it happened in the season that MM gets more involved and in particular when we start addressing ILB.

 

So to answer your question, yes.  This is an Elite team with a legit shot at Lombardi Trophy.

I'm not making the connection. 

 

I'm referring to your suggestion that NO wouldn't have scored 44 if Rodgers didn't get hurt, which I agree with. That would suggest that he's really the no. 1 factor of this team succeeding or failing.

Yes, it is an elite team.  But that's not over-optimism or crowing, it's the bar they need to live up to.  They are elite and need to keep playing like that until they are holding the Lombardi trophy at the end of the season.  

Of course he is.  It's just that the people who try to paint AR as some sort of mark against the guy are ****ing morons.  It took balls of Sheetrock to draft AR and balls to develop him and move on to him.  They developed the best player in football.

Don't disagree with any of that. You can search my posting history to confirm it, if you're so inclined.

Elite organizations do things like have a developed AR ready to take over for the previous guy when he's too old.

Doesn't take a jeenyous to figure out AR is the #1 factor in the team succeeding or not. But that wasn't the point of my comment. It was merely to point out that while the D has given up yards this year (near bottom of league), they've not given up to points to match....for a variety of reasons.

This game finally convinced me that this D is good enough. This is the best team they've had since 2010 IMO.

The Queens take our retreads.  The Bores overpay for a head case turd.  Detoilet overpays a mediocre guy.  GB locks in at QB, fills in with young athletes and coaches the bejesus out of them.  They're elite from top to bottom.

Points given up is the main stat, besides wins and losses. Yards surrendered mean zilch if you come up with a W, so I guess we agree.

 

Yes, this is an elite team, and is probably the prohibitive favorite to win the SB right now, along with the team they just beat today, to answer the original question.

The Packers are one of the elite franchises in professional sports, only a complete idiot could think otherwise. Really, you'd have to be pretty damn clueless and/or biased to not already know this.

......... another meating at the end of the season

 

What kind of meat?

 

Venison?

 

Bear?

 

Or Lion.

 

Mmmmmmm! Meat.  Medium rare, please. 

Kind of think he was referring to this current roster, right now. Not their place in the grand scheme of American Professional Sports.

Easily the best team since 2010. No doubt about that. Believe it or not, the 2012 defense was actually better from a statistical standpoint, but this 2014 unit is clearly more talented.

I'll say this about NE. Then they get filed until February. 

 

I wonder what they're history looks like if Charles Woodson gets the game winning strip/fumble in 2001 that he caused. Gruden took a CA team to a Foxborough snowstorm against Billy and won. Does Gruden stay? Does Bledsoe start 2002? 

 

 

1 play that changed history?

 

 

 

The Packers (coaches and players) downplayed the Win last night in the post game interviews. Brady was visibly upset during the game and was not happy with the loss after the game. Brady knew they were playing the best in the league and they couldn't get it done. Yes, the Packers are elite.

 

 

Yep...and this defense's stats are a bit skewed. Ever since they made the switch with Clay, the D has been giving up just 19 PPG. Holding both Philly and NE to just 20 and 21 is a huge accomplishment. Philly's last TD was complete garbage time as well. Pack held them to 6-13 when the game mattered most

Green Bay has been considered a finesse team under McCarthy mostly due to the offense, and that seems fair. Yesterday that was a smash mouth physical defense. Barrington with two physical stops on the Pats 1st drive. Other than two Gronk receptions, the DBs tackled well, not a lot of YAC. Very nice to see.

 

 

 

 

I'm not knocking his scheme, I question his ability to read talent and prepare that talent to execute that scheme and that extends to that stiff Winston Moss.

 

I cannot say enough for MM's involvement in the defense this year, even if it's just as motivator and a force to shake up personnel.

It is also really nice to see this team without a bunch of starters on IR. TT, MM and DC all look better when they can execute their game plans with the proper players.

 

This team has been elite for the past 20 years. Two poor seasons during that span? Not many teams can claim that.

 

To see the ILB attacking on a regular basis vs. the back peddling, take an angle tackle down field approach is quite literally refreshing.  Squaring up in the hole and laying the wood.  Barrington did a great job covering up the pass as well.  I hope he can continue to grow instead of suffering from Lattimore syndrome.  

 

And the reality is that the general road map that the front office and the coaching staff are scripted upon are very successful but it always takes a little extra fire and luck to get you to the pinnacle.  That's the same for every team.  The challenge is being in the position to catch that lightning in a bottle and capitalize on it.  

Agree on Barington moving forward at the snap was nice to see.

 

There were some missed tackles on Gronk and the RBs later in the game, but it could have been much worse.

PFF gave Barrington a negative grade for the game saying, "Barrington with some struggles vs. the run (-2.1).".

 

 

Bedard thinks McCarthy is pretty good.

 

 

Still, you have to think about it relative to what Hawk or Brad Jones would have done on those plays. It is not like we had Mike Singletary sitting on the bench.

Blount got lots more yards than any human should have.  

"As far as the customary post-game handshake between coaches, New England’s Bill Belichick usually goes with the less-is-more approach, especially after close losses like Sunday’s 26-21 defeat at the hands of the Packers. That’s why it was so significant that at Lambeau Field, Belichick and McCarthy embraced, and then Belichick spent several seconds talking to McCarthy, with a few headshakes mixed it for emphasis. Translation: ‘That’s a damn fine football team you have that was hell to prepare and play against. You guys do a great job.’ It certainly helps that the two teams are in different conferences and only meet once every four years (if McCarthy was in the AFC East, it wouldn’t happen regularly, if at all), but that should not diminish the symbolism of the moment. It certainly wasn’t lost on me, someone who has covered both men up close in my career. Here was Belichick, certainly the best coach in the NFL today, if not ever, clueing us all on this fact: Michael John McCarthy is one of the great coaches in the NFL. And it’s time for everyone to regard him as such.”