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FreeSafety ·
Huh? Strawman? My point was one small knock on the offense is that I wish the team's success didn't rely so much on AR extending plays and making incredible throws. It makes me more nervous about the team if some injury to AR did occur. However, when you have a QB with that ability a coach might encourage it and make it part of the game plan. That very well could be.
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Iowacheese ·
Originally Posted by Satori: Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo: I know you tend to react negatively when anyone suggests the possibility that someone outside the organization may be better than their counterpart inside the organization. I'll try to be more aware of your sensibilities in the future. Nope, you're wrong yet again (which is consistent with your posting history here) What I react negatively to... are weakly constructed arguments that are little more than a parrots pablum ( your...
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ilcuqui ·
From the Bedard article: Took Bedard longer but Henry saw the signs first. Lead post in the Norvening thread, Sept 14. Originally Posted by Henry: After watching the past 3 years of this horsehit, ****ing abysmal defense I had hope that MM was going to keep growing and become a complete coach. With the absolute and utter failure of the first game and half (Seadicks defeated by the powerhouse Chargers), it was apparent that MM was hunkering down into a stagnant, failing "system". Tenaciously...
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ilcuqui ·
Originally Posted by Henry: I cannot say enough for MM's involvement in the defense this year, even if it's just as motivator and a force to shake up personnel. Hmmm.
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Grave Digger ·
Originally Posted by FreeSafety: Huh? Strawman? My point was one small knock on the offense is that I wish the team's success didn't rely so much on AR extending plays and making incredible throws. However, when you have a QB with that ability a coach might encourage it and make it part of the game plan. That very well could be. I don't think the offense is reliant on that at all. Every offense asks the QB to make the right throws or extend the play, but they all play to the QBs strengths.
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Goalline ·
Originally Posted by CAPackfan: This game finally convinced me that this D is good enough. This is the best team they've had since 2010 IMO. Ahem. 2011. Yeah, still not in love with this D, but No 12 can carry this team to the very top.
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Goalline ·
Originally Posted by Hungry5: Bedard thinks McCarthy is pretty good. Well, that's a knock against MM. Bedard is clueless.
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Goalline ·
Originally Posted by FreeSafety: Still, you have to think about it relative to what Hawk or Brad Jones would have done on those plays. It is not like we had Mike Singletary sitting on the bench. Although, with Capers history, there is a chance that he picks AJ ahead of Singletary.
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FreeSafety ·
Originally Posted by Grave Digger: MM is smart enough to cater his offense to his QB which is why he didn't ask Matt Flynn to do all the things Rodgers did when he had to start for him. That is really the key. He lets AR do more on his own because it works. On a side note, I don't think MM calls back shoulder throws as such. There was even a interview soundbite from Jordy Nelson during yesterday's pregame to that affect. Paraphrasing Jordy "What people don't understand and I keep trying to...
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CAPackfan ·
Originally Posted by Goalline: Originally Posted by CAPackfan: This game finally convinced me that this D is good enough. This is the best team they've had since 2010 IMO. Ahem. 2011. Yeah, still not in love with this D, but No 12 can carry this team to the very top. The 2011 defense was terrible all year. It was just masked by the Packers having one of the historically greatest offenses led by a QB having one of the greatest seasons of all time. I tried to convince myself that their defense...
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Goalline ·
It was an awful defense, and I became convinced of that about 3/4 of the way through the season, but that offense was that good.
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Hungry5 ·
There were times yesterday where it seemed Belichick made decisions like McCarthy of a few seasons back, and vice versa. @FS, RE: McCarthy and Rodgers. It's really not one without the other, is it? As Rodgers improved with his ability to see the defense McCarthy has given him more freedom, because Rodgers plays within the scheme. That is something Favre wouldn't do, and while that was exciting for us fans it drove the coaches (at least Holmgren and McCarthy) nuts. While it looks like the...
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ilcuqui ·
If this continues the Lombardi Trophy awaits.
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packerboi ·
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Satori ·
Peppers is such a key addition.... dude makes plays Swatted down one pass, tipped 2 others and forced Brady to alter his throw on another Packers lose CB# 1 after 10 plays and still slowed down the NFL's "best offense"
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Hungry5 ·
Jones, Daniels, Boyd, and Guion with another solid job up front.
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Pakrz ·
GB v. NE on NFL Rewind in a few minutes.... I heard NE rushed with a lot of 3-man fronts, which might explain why the oline looked so good. I will rewatch the game, minus alcohol, and see for myself.
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ilcuqui ·
Offensive line looked good because they generally crushed in their match-ups. Check this out. Linsley just burying his guy. RobDemovsky Great blocks by @jsitton71 @TJLang70 @Linsley71 on @Lil_Eazy_Ana_42's 17-yard gain in the 4th Q. #Packers 12/1/14, 2:33 PM
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Rusty ·
With that said, I'm totally expecting a 69-3 loss against Matty Ice next week!!!!!!
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ChilliJon ·
Elite team. Elite Operation.
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
Don Compers somehow able to out strategize the immortal Lombardi-esque Belichick and to hold the up and coming Minneapolis Zimmers to under 25 points. He held the Peterson-less Vikings to under 25! Wowza!!! Happy days are here again! In all honesty, I gotta hand it to the Dominator, he did a fantastic job today. And yes, BB is still a better coach than MM. Until MM gets to that 5th SB, that'll be the case. 1 down, 4 to go.
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Satori ·
your coach lost today Our coach won End of story
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
my coach...gimme a friggin' break. your LT is delivering pizzas right now and that, my friends, is the rest of the story
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PackLandVA ·
It's easy to knock Dom and his scheme, etc. But his defense this year has only given up more than 24 points twice this year. And only more than 21 two other times. Seattle just flat out beat them. But the Saints don't score 44 if Rodgers doesn't tweak the hammy.
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Satori ·
Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo: my coach...gimme a friggin' break. your LT is delivering pizzas right now That's all ya got ? Sheesh dude, that's kinda weak even for you. Take your time, give it some thought and come back with some better material. This is an elite team board.
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
re: Packland So, are you saying this team's success is based more on Rodgers than the coaches?
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
Originally Posted by Satori: That's all ya got ? Sheesh dude, that's kinda weak even for you. Take your time, give it some thought and come back with some better material. This is an elite team board. I know you tend to react negatively when anyone suggests the possibility that someone outside the organization may be better than their counterpart inside the organization. I'll try to be more aware of your sensibilities in the future.
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BrainDed ·
I think the D has turned the corner. Its no coincidence it happened in the season that MM gets more involved and in particular when we start addressing ILB. So to answer your question, yes. This is an Elite team with a legit shot at Lombardi Trophy.
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PackLandVA ·
I'm not making the connection.
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
I'm referring to your suggestion that NO wouldn't have scored 44 if Rodgers didn't get hurt, which I agree with. That would suggest that he's really the no. 1 factor of this team succeeding or failing.
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Dr._Bob ·
Yes, it is an elite team. But that's not over-optimism or crowing, it's the bar they need to live up to. They are elite and need to keep playing like that until they are holding the Lombardi trophy at the end of the season.
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JJSD ·
Of course he is. It's just that the people who try to paint AR as some sort of mark against the guy are ****ing morons. It took balls of Sheetrock to draft AR and balls to develop him and move on to him. They developed the best player in football.
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
Don't disagree with any of that. You can search my posting history to confirm it, if you're so inclined.
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JJSD ·
Elite organizations do things like have a developed AR ready to take over for the previous guy when he's too old.
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PackLandVA ·
Doesn't take a jeenyous to figure out AR is the #1 factor in the team succeeding or not. But that wasn't the point of my comment. It was merely to point out that while the D has given up yards this year (near bottom of league), they've not given up to points to match....for a variety of reasons.
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CAPackfan ·
This game finally convinced me that this D is good enough. This is the best team they've had since 2010 IMO.
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JJSD ·
The Queens take our retreads. The Bores overpay for a head case turd. Detoilet overpays a mediocre guy. GB locks in at QB, fills in with young athletes and coaches the bejesus out of them. They're elite from top to bottom.
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
Points given up is the main stat, besides wins and losses. Yards surrendered mean zilch if you come up with a W, so I guess we agree. Yes, this is an elite team, and is probably the prohibitive favorite to win the SB right now, along with the team they just beat today, to answer the original question.
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Pack-Man ·
The Packers are one of the elite franchises in professional sports, only a complete idiot could think otherwise. Really, you'd have to be pretty damn clueless and/or biased to not already know this.
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excalibur ·
......... another meating at the end of the season What kind of meat? Venison? Bear? Or Lion. Mmmmmmm! Meat. Medium rare, please.
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Fond Du Arrigo ·
Originally Posted by Pack-Man: The Packers are one of the elite franchises in professional sports, only a complete idiot could think otherwise. Really, you'd have to be pretty damn clueless and/or biased to not already know this. Kind of think he was referring to this current roster, right now. Not their place in the grand scheme of American Professional Sports.
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Pack-Man ·
Originally Posted by CAPackfan: This game finally convinced me that this D is good enough. This is the best team they've had since 2010 IMO. Easily the best team since 2010. No doubt about that. Believe it or not, the 2012 defense was actually better from a statistical standpoint, but this 2014 unit is clearly more talented.
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ChilliJon ·
I'll say this about NE. Then they get filed until February. I wonder what they're history looks like if Charles Woodson gets the game winning strip/fumble in 2001 that he caused. Gruden took a CA team to a Foxborough snowstorm against Billy and won. Does Gruden stay? Does Bledsoe start 2002?
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Hungry5 ·
1 play that changed history? The Packers (coaches and players) downplayed the Win last night in the post game interviews. Brady was visibly upset during the game and was not happy with the loss after the game. Brady knew they were playing the best in the league and they couldn't get it done. Yes, the Packers are elite.
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CAPackfan ·
Originally Posted by Pack-Man: Originally Posted by CAPackfan: This game finally convinced me that this D is good enough. This is the best team they've had since 2010 IMO. Easily the best team since 2010. No doubt about that. Believe it or not, the 2012 defense was actually better from a statistical standpoint, but this 2014 unit is clearly more talented. Yep...and this defense's stats are a bit skewed. Ever since they made the switch with Clay, the D has been giving up just 19 PPG. Holding...
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Hungry5 ·
Green Bay has been considered a finesse team under McCarthy mostly due to the offense, and that seems fair. Yesterday that was a smash mouth physical defense. Barrington with two physical stops on the Pats 1st drive. Other than two Gronk receptions, the DBs tackled well, not a lot of YAC. Very nice to see.
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Henry ·
Originally Posted by PackLandVA: It's easy to knock Dom and his scheme, etc. But his defense this year has only given up more than 24 points twice this year. And only more than 21 two other times. Seattle just flat out beat them. But the Saints don't score 44 if Rodgers doesn't tweak the hammy. I'm not knocking his scheme, I question his ability to read talent and prepare that talent to execute that scheme and that extends to that stiff Winston Moss. I cannot say enough for MM's involvement...
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FreeSafety ·
It is also really nice to see this team without a bunch of starters on IR. TT, MM and DC all look better when they can execute their game plans with the proper players. This team has been elite for the past 20 years. Two poor seasons during that span? Not many teams can claim that.
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Henry ·
Originally Posted by Hungry5: Green Bay has been considered a finesse team under McCarthy mostly due to the offense, and that seems fair. Yesterday that was a smash mouth physical defense. Barrington with two physical stops on the Pats 1st drive. Other than two Gronk receptions, the DBs tackled well, not a lot of YAC. Very nice to see. To see the ILB attacking on a regular basis vs. the back peddling, take an angle tackle down field approach is quite literally refreshing. Squaring up in the...
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