Here is my first using Fanspeak big board 27: R1P27 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA 57: R2P26 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 88: R3P25 OLB DEION JONES LSU 122: R4P27 RB AARON GREEN TCU 151: R5P24 DT WILLIE HENRY MICHIGAN 182: R6P25 OT JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE 216: R7P27 ILB LUKE RHODES WILLIAM & MARY
This is my FanSpeak effort. I'm okay with it: 27: R1P27 DE JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA 57: R2P26 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE 88: R3P25 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 122: R4P27 OT CALEB BENENOCH UCLA 151: R5P24 RB JOSH FERGUSON ILLINOIS 182: R6P25 CB HARLAN MILLER SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA 216: R7P27 OLB STEVE LONGA RUTGERS
ROUND 1 Austin Johnson/NT/Penn St. 6’3”/325 lbs. True NT…stout run defender…holds the LOS better than any player in the draft ROUND 2 Joe Schobert/LB/Wisconsin 6’1”/235 lbs. High energy, high effort…strong edge rush and blitz skills…versatility as ILB or OLB ROUND 3 Nick Vannett/TE/Ohio St. 6’6”/260 lbs. Great size with experience in-line or split out…tough, experienced blocker…wasn’t used enough at OSU ROUND 4 Joe Haeg/OT/North Dakota St. 6’5”/300 lbs. Good developmental LT…all around game...
I live close to Columbus and I have the misfortune of seeing most O$U games. Lee is an OL and probably is a little to light to play ILB in the NFL. He is extremely fast and could be a nice compliment to Clay if he goes back outside.
I understand that teams play their defenses differently which dictates what they want from each position but Carolina's LBers, Kuechly & Davis are only listed at 235, Lee is listed at 228. Cards play Bucannon as essentially a LBer at 218 lbs. I think players like Lee & Cravens from USC would be coveted by Dom, since they have a varied skill set & can be moved around the field.
He doesn't play like he's 230 though, he plays like he's 215. He's closer to Deone Buchanan than he is Luke Keuchly. Would you put Deone Buchanan at ILB full time? Arizona doesn't do that, he plays more of a Rover that doesn't fill gaps and take on OL. Lee's not aggressive like an ILB either, he reminds me of Julian Peterson really. Exceptional athlete, but not a thumper. More of an athlete than football player right now. Why would Dom covet a small LB/big Safety? He has two Safeties that...
I think getting more speed on the field has been the goal for the last few years. That's why Brad Jones was moved to ILB and it's why Nate Palmer moved to ILB. Those guys are on the more athletic end of the ILB spectrum, what they lack are instincts and vision to put their athleticism to any good use. The great ILBs in this league are fast (most are 4.6/4.7 range), but above all they have to have the instincts and the vision. If you can shed OLinemen and locate the football in a split second...
I agree that instincts to the ball are most important. However this is exactly why players should not be discounted as being "too small" to play ILBer if they are only in the 225 range. How much does 10 more pounds matter when you are being blocked by a 300+ olineman? If you are 230 or 240, you are still at a great disadvantage. The key is to not get blocked. You are correct, we don't know if Lee & Cravens have those great instincts(or maybe you do?) , but I think we've dismissed too...
I definitely agree with you, discounting guys because of their size is a big mistake in a lot of cases. Guys can bulk up to 230 or 240 and be effective, that's not an issue in my mind. It can be a problem when you're 220 and have to constantly battle 300 lb linemen and hit 220+ RBs. There's a reason many true ILBs or MLBs are in that 240/250 range, that 20 lbs of muscle can help you withstand the pounding. In the case of Lee and Cravens, although they are very different players, I don't see...
Anyone have an armchair scouting report on Jake McGee, TE from Florida? At 6-6, 252 with a projected 4.69, he's likely to be among the biggest and fastest TEs in the class. Decent production in the SEC, too. But I'm seeing him "graded" anywhere from a 3rd to a 6th/7th. What gives?
He's a little bit older at 24 and he suffered a pretty brutal leg injury in 2015. He seemed to rebound well, but those are his big knocks. We will see how his Senior Bowl goes, I don't think he goes lower than round 5, but round 3 is more realistic based on his skillset.
I think one thing may be the problem and that is how horrible at times the Florida offense was last year. It could be a tough sell to get a UF offensive player ranked high but I think if he is talented the scouts will figure that out quickly.
Starting to think that GB will be taking OLB with one of their first 2 picks. Have more shallow positions that need help(ILB and TE specifically) but there's a reason why edge rushers get paid a ton. Peppers is old, Clay is entering his age 30 season, and Perry or Neal or perhaps even both won't be back(and both are average players as it is). They need to find another young high upside option for that group.
Ted seems to look beyond the current year with the draft. Look at the 2017 free agents: Julius Peppers, Josh Sitton, TJ Lang, Datone Jones, Eddie Lacy, Davis Bahktiari, JC Tretter, Micah Hyde, Jayrone Elliot (RFA), Mike Pennel (RFA), John Crockett, Josh Walker, etc. They can't wait to replace two starting Guards and their primary backups next year. Same thing for OLB with Neal and Perry being FAs this year...4 of our top 5 OLBs will be FAs over over this offseason and next. Same thing with...
Agreed on TE and ILB. We'll probably see a couple more WRs and maybe a late round OLB to switch positions though. Overall I think TT does a great job but it almost seems like he has a bias against these positions.
That said, I am not totally against a stud OLB so Clay can stay inside more. Clay has been very disruptive inside, especially on stunts where he blitzes. And I never saw him lose contain while playing ILB. ;-)
After Ragland I think Joe Schobert is the second best ILB in the draft. I know he was an OLB at Wisconsin, but I see the instincts, the aggressive/attacking mentality, and the athleticism to get the job done. I think he could easily make the conversion. I'd like to see a veteran LB signed, like one of the guys from Denver, but I would double down and bring this guy to GB. He has the versatility to slide down to OLB and pressure off the edge also.
My money is on a D-Tackle or edge rusher. TT has said he's fond of big bodies early and shown pass rushers and secondary defenders also. There are a few interesting TEs at the Senior Bowl who could be awfully tempting in Round3, maybe even 2.
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