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FLPACKER ·
Here is my first using Fanspeak big board 27: R1P27 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA 57: R2P26 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 88: R3P25 OLB DEION JONES LSU 122: R4P27 RB AARON GREEN TCU 151: R5P24 DT WILLIE HENRY MICHIGAN 182: R6P25 OT JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE 216: R7P27 ILB LUKE RHODES WILLIAM & MARY
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titmfatied ·
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Rusty ·
This is my FanSpeak effort. I'm okay with it: 27: R1P27 DE JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA 57: R2P26 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE 88: R3P25 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS 122: R4P27 OT CALEB BENENOCH UCLA 151: R5P24 RB JOSH FERGUSON ILLINOIS 182: R6P25 CB HARLAN MILLER SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA 216: R7P27 OLB STEVE LONGA RUTGERS
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ChilliJon ·
Yes, that draft would do just fine. And Ted agrees with your thinking at ILB .
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oldschool ·
that's a stretch but Eaton would be a ringer.
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Grave Digger ·
ROUND 1 Austin Johnson/NT/Penn St. 6’3”/325 lbs. True NT…stout run defender…holds the LOS better than any player in the draft ROUND 2 Joe Schobert/LB/Wisconsin 6’1”/235 lbs. High energy, high effort…strong edge rush and blitz skills…versatility as ILB or OLB ROUND 3 Nick Vannett/TE/Ohio St. 6’6”/260 lbs. Great size with experience in-line or split out…tough, experienced blocker…wasn’t used enough at OSU ROUND 4 Joe Haeg/OT/North Dakota St. 6’5”/300 lbs. Good developmental LT…all around game...
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CAPackfan ·
Pack already showing interest in Austin Johnson
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DH13 ·
Is chase goodbread a new will farrel character?
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The Heckler ·
I live close to Columbus and I have the misfortune of seeing most O$U games. Lee is an OL and probably is a little to light to play ILB in the NFL. He is extremely fast and could be a nice compliment to Clay if he goes back outside.
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FLPACKER ·
I understand that teams play their defenses differently which dictates what they want from each position but Carolina's LBers, Kuechly & Davis are only listed at 235, Lee is listed at 228. Cards play Bucannon as essentially a LBer at 218 lbs. I think players like Lee & Cravens from USC would be coveted by Dom, since they have a varied skill set & can be moved around the field.
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Grave Digger ·
He doesn't play like he's 230 though, he plays like he's 215. He's closer to Deone Buchanan than he is Luke Keuchly. Would you put Deone Buchanan at ILB full time? Arizona doesn't do that, he plays more of a Rover that doesn't fill gaps and take on OL. Lee's not aggressive like an ILB either, he reminds me of Julian Peterson really. Exceptional athlete, but not a thumper. More of an athlete than football player right now. Why would Dom covet a small LB/big Safety? He has two Safeties that...
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FLPACKER ·
To get more speed on the field, which appears to be a growing trend to combat speedier offenses. Would you rather have Joe Thomas in on passing downs or one of the two guys I mentioned?
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FLPACKER ·
Didn't many think that Kendricks, Shazier, & Thompson were all too light to play LBer also?
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Hungry5 ·
Sure tackling and speed at ILB is what they need.
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Henry ·
Considering this is all mythical how do you know mythical Uncle Teddy doesn't take him? I imagine mythical TT like this, toying with our emotions.
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ChilliJon ·
We can pretty much put this in bold type and lock this thread down. Would love an athletic TE. But ILB absolutely has to get resolved.
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Hungry5 ·
With Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Abbradaris, and Janis! an athletic TE would be unfair. They ought to have Janis! put on about 10-15 lbs and then spend the off-season with Brian Angelichio.
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Grave Digger ·
I think getting more speed on the field has been the goal for the last few years. That's why Brad Jones was moved to ILB and it's why Nate Palmer moved to ILB. Those guys are on the more athletic end of the ILB spectrum, what they lack are instincts and vision to put their athleticism to any good use. The great ILBs in this league are fast (most are 4.6/4.7 range), but above all they have to have the instincts and the vision. If you can shed OLinemen and locate the football in a split second...
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FLPACKER ·
I agree that instincts to the ball are most important. However this is exactly why players should not be discounted as being "too small" to play ILBer if they are only in the 225 range. How much does 10 more pounds matter when you are being blocked by a 300+ olineman? If you are 230 or 240, you are still at a great disadvantage. The key is to not get blocked. You are correct, we don't know if Lee & Cravens have those great instincts(or maybe you do?) , but I think we've dismissed too...
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Grave Digger ·
I definitely agree with you, discounting guys because of their size is a big mistake in a lot of cases. Guys can bulk up to 230 or 240 and be effective, that's not an issue in my mind. It can be a problem when you're 220 and have to constantly battle 300 lb linemen and hit 220+ RBs. There's a reason many true ILBs or MLBs are in that 240/250 range, that 20 lbs of muscle can help you withstand the pounding. In the case of Lee and Cravens, although they are very different players, I don't see...
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FLPACKER ·
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying that. Enjoy the actual football talk.
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DH13 ·
Shazier also missed a bunch of games due to injury. He may or may not be able to take the pounding.
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PackerRuss ·
I'd go with Gino's East and Giordano's as well.
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Hungry5 ·
Gotta figure out some way to recover from giving up so much for Julio.
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IL_Pack_Fan ·
Anyone have an armchair scouting report on Jake McGee, TE from Florida? At 6-6, 252 with a projected 4.69, he's likely to be among the biggest and fastest TEs in the class. Decent production in the SEC, too. But I'm seeing him "graded" anywhere from a 3rd to a 6th/7th. What gives?
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DH13 ·
Aaron Hernandez's nephew?
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Grave Digger ·
He's a little bit older at 24 and he suffered a pretty brutal leg injury in 2015. He seemed to rebound well, but those are his big knocks. We will see how his Senior Bowl goes, I don't think he goes lower than round 5, but round 3 is more realistic based on his skillset.
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ChilliJon ·
Innerweb say's McGee snapped his tibia and fibula. So that's concerning.
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Hungry5 ·
I think the leg healed. McGee at Sr Bowl
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titmfatied ·
01-26-16 Dan Shonka joins The Bill Michaels Show => http://media.1057fmthefan.com/...shonka-112825392.mp3
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YATittle ·
Nab him in the second round. Stump everyone.
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The Heckler ·
I think one thing may be the problem and that is how horrible at times the Florida offense was last year. It could be a tough sell to get a UF offensive player ranked high but I think if he is talented the scouts will figure that out quickly.
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FLPACKER ·
I like this kid; http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/d...1280/bronson-kaufusi
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CAPackfan ·
Starting to think that GB will be taking OLB with one of their first 2 picks. Have more shallow positions that need help(ILB and TE specifically) but there's a reason why edge rushers get paid a ton. Peppers is old, Clay is entering his age 30 season, and Perry or Neal or perhaps even both won't be back(and both are average players as it is). They need to find another young high upside option for that group.
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Grave Digger ·
Ted seems to look beyond the current year with the draft. Look at the 2017 free agents: Julius Peppers, Josh Sitton, TJ Lang, Datone Jones, Eddie Lacy, Davis Bahktiari, JC Tretter, Micah Hyde, Jayrone Elliot (RFA), Mike Pennel (RFA), John Crockett, Josh Walker, etc. They can't wait to replace two starting Guards and their primary backups next year. Same thing for OLB with Neal and Perry being FAs this year...4 of our top 5 OLBs will be FAs over over this offseason and next. Same thing with...
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packerboi ·
TE and ILB cannot be ignored. Period. So, if not through the draft, then Ted has to look at FA. Lack of speed is a big issue on both sides. These 2 positions have been ignored far too long.
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RushRunner ·
Agreed on TE and ILB. We'll probably see a couple more WRs and maybe a late round OLB to switch positions though. Overall I think TT does a great job but it almost seems like he has a bias against these positions.
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RushRunner ·
That said, I am not totally against a stud OLB so Clay can stay inside more. Clay has been very disruptive inside, especially on stunts where he blitzes. And I never saw him lose contain while playing ILB. ;-)
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GBFanForLife ·
So if Ted doesn't pick an ILB or TE or sign any Free Agents, that meet your expectations, what will happen?
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Herschel ·
The Packers likely once again fall short of a Lombardi Trophy.
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Grave Digger ·
After Ragland I think Joe Schobert is the second best ILB in the draft. I know he was an OLB at Wisconsin, but I see the instincts, the aggressive/attacking mentality, and the athleticism to get the job done. I think he could easily make the conversion. I'd like to see a veteran LB signed, like one of the guys from Denver, but I would double down and bring this guy to GB. He has the versatility to slide down to OLB and pressure off the edge also.
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Hungry5 ·
Gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair. Kind of like any other day in Packers fan land.
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GBFanForLife ·
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FLPACKER ·
They were talking about Schobert on NFL Radio yesterday & also liked his athleticism. They too thought he could play on the inside.
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pduck ·
Packers not expected to select linebacker early in draft Matt Miller says that TT doesn't feel that ILB is a very important position.
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YATittle ·
TT playing poker. Misleading the other 31 teams. Congrats.
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FLPACKER ·
I'd be very surprised if we took a CB in the first round.
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YATittle ·
Inside linebacker not imporant? Is that a joke? He needs to watch Carolina, where decent ILBs cover up other deficiencies....
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Henry ·
I think that's a pretty safe assumption considering his track record. He has more history taking UDFA OLBs and undersized DEs for conversion projects.
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Herschel ·
My money is on a D-Tackle or edge rusher. TT has said he's fond of big bodies early and shown pass rushers and secondary defenders also. There are a few interesting TEs at the Senior Bowl who could be awfully tempting in Round3, maybe even 2.
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