Collins out for year....

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

After exiting Sunday's game in the second half with a foot sprain, Ryan Pickett is hopeful he'll play in Chicago this week.

"As far as I know, yes," Pickett said. "I'm just a little sore. It's all right."

As of Monday afternoon, Pickett hadn't met with doctors. There wasn't one specific play where he injured his foot.

"My foot just started hurting," he said. "I didn't know what it was. I don't think it's anything serious. I played pretty much the whole game with it."

I would guess that if Pickett hadn't met with doctors by Monday afternoon it isn't that big of a deal. At least I hope so...

Convert Jones to CB and elevate Gurley Man from the PS?

Suppose the PACK might ask Underwood to return?

Underwood has had 2 games now to heal. Maybe he will be good for a week or two. I'd only pay him by the play.

Where's Craig Nall when we need him?

Since TT rarely grabs somebody from another teams cuts it looks likely Levine or Underwood would be signed to replace Nick on the roster. TT does like his own guys, recent exception was Green however.

If TT gets somebody other than Levine or Underwood you can probably be sure its someone weve never heard of. Possibly a Safety on some other teams Practise Squad?

Whatever Nicks problem is I sure hope he can make a full recovery and lead a normal life, whether he ever plays again or not is not important in the grand scheme of things. Long term health is.

what are everyone's thoughts on moving woodson to safety? A couple years a go I remember hearing that might be a possibility and I saw the Milwaukee Sentinel had a poll about it following collins injury.

personally I'd like to see how Peprah does first. He definitely has some talent and hopefully gets a fire lit under his ass.

No, in fact HELL NO! Who is going to play CB if Woodson moves? Tramon is dinged too. Would you rather see a starting defensive backfield of
........................Peprah
............................................Burnett
Woodson.......................................................Shields

Or:

........................Woodson
............................................Burnett
BUSH..........................................................Shields

?

Doubt Woody moves to Safety as he's too valuable in his slot CB role. Yet with TW out last week Bush had the slot role and Woody played regular CB. But when TW returns we need the versatility Woody brings as a slot CB with TW and Shields as CB's in the nickle.

I think we tried Woody at Safety for a few games a couple or so years ago and as I recall it did not work out as well as the Pack hoped it would?

Heck, in a perfect world Woodson doesn't even really play CB any more. He's not the cover guy he used to be. He's more like a hybrid/monster d-back, a bit like Polamalu in that he moves around and makes plays in no small part on saavy and surprise.

Nick Collins had surgery last night. It was a single fusion in his neck vetabrae. The surgery a success/optimistic he will play next yr.

Thanks for the update. Was waiting to find out what exactly his injury was and the outlook for his future. This is similar to what Peyton Manning had done, correct?

Glad he can go on living his life. I think it's doubtful Collins or the Packers risk further damage in the future. If so, glad he went out on top. Thanks Nick.

The local GB station was talking about it this afternoon

He had surgery, but it's not automatic that he will return. In fact, from the jist of it, they made it sound like he may not return

That's a tough surgery, I doubt he plays again. I like the optimism, but he has to think about his life... literally.

I think Nick Collins is done. Fusion surgery, especially in the neck, should be the end of a football player's career.

Thank you for all your wonderful play, Nick. Stay healthy, and enjoy the rest of your life.

Time to draft a Safety high:

PFT


Packers safety Nick Collins is facing a lengthy recovery after having cervical fusion surgery on Thursday following a Week Two neck injury.

Collins’s agent, Alan Herman, told Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel that it won’t be until some time next year that Collins has an idea whether he’ll be able to resume his NFL career.

“He felt good about everything,” Herman said. “He felt it went well. The point that was made was the you don’t know until six months down the road. You see how the healing process goes. You can’t gauge what will happen, whether there will be any narrowing with the [spinal] canal or remaining tissue. That will be the determining factor as far as his career. It’s all based on the healing process.”

Collins is not in pain and can perform the normal function of daily life, and he might not have needed the surgery at all if he were just an average joe and not a football player. But Collins wanted the surgery because it gave him his best chance to return to the field. He still has a long way to go before he’ll know whether that’s a realistic possibility.

This isn't like the surgery Manning had--at least not in terms of ability to play again. QBs who slip discs their neck and get it fused together face a lot of risk getting it hit again, but Safeties who slip discs in their neck and get it fused together face the total certainty of getting it hit multiple times every game they play. They use that neck when they tackle.

I've had a spinal fusion six years ago. And I know a couple of people who have had fusions as well. (Granted, it's lower back stuff and not the neck). I'm okay, but I don't play golf anymore. The doctor said that it would be okay to play, but I know what I feel when I swing a club, and the back is not the same. I also know someone who did play golf again, once and he wound up back on the surgery table that day (he was 28 yrs old and now walks like someone much, much older). And golf isn't a contact sport.

If Collins comes back to play again, either medical science has recently made miraculous advances in spinal fusion or both the Packers and Collins are nuts.

I think the Green Bay medical staff is very good... and very cautious. I have a hard time believing he would be cleared to play football again for the Packers.

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Originally posted by Herschel:
No, in fact HELL NO! Who is going to play CB if Woodson moves? Tramon is dinged too. Would you rather see a starting defensive backfield of
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Ahh... Woodson started the game at safety against the Bears.

Capers disagrees. He went back to CB when they played 5 DB's. Of course, this is the majority of the snaps, but if the Bears game is a indication, Woodson is your safety in the base 3-4.

I foolishly was holding out hope for his return later this year, but it's looking like he's done as a player.

Thanks Nick, for that awesome INT in the Super Bowl and the INT in the regular season finale against the Bears. Your career was short, but you were awesome. Good luck with the rest of your life.

I had this same exact surgery several years back and wouldnt be at all surprised if Nick is back next year. The surgeon who did mine said it is not uncommon for people to be in contact sports after healing. He specifically mentioned football and martial arts

But can you take a kidney shot?