**Glazer Reports Lynch traded to Seahawks**

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Originally posted by packerboi:
Per WSSP in Milwaukee

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The second pick Buffalo received in today's trade is a 6th rounder in 2012 that can go to a 5th based on Marshawn Lynch's productivity. 48 minutes ago via twitter

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Originally posted by chickenboy:

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Originally posted by packerboi:
Per WSSP in Milwaukee

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The second pick Buffalo received in today's trade is a 6th rounder in 2012 that can go to a 5th based on Marshawn Lynch's productivity. 48 minutes ago via twitter

so packer terms it would have been a 2011 3rd and 2012 5th that might have went to a 4th.

i still make that deal for a guy our GM would have picked at #16.

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
However, im very upset about the propencity that Ted has shown in not wanting to make a low risk deal for a former proven pro-bowl (or close to) quality player with high upside to our team.

Moss
Gonzalez
Lynch

You really need to stop quoting Steve "Homer" True on ESPN 540, only thing you're going to accomplish is show everyone you're a bigger paint thinner drinking moron then him,and that's pretty hard to accomplish.

Especially once you start quoting the exact same Gonzalez trade bullchit that he was on today. We've already been over that circle of stupid with you already a few times over the last two years. Perhaps you could foward it over to your man crush,"Homer" of the actually facts on that entire Gonzalez trade.

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Moss - went to bed thinking they had a deal... woke up with Moss a NEP
Gonzalez - had a deal in place, faxed the papers to KAN, the dick Peterson changed his mind
Lynch - we'll wait on what happened here, but I'm guessing he did not want to part with a 3rd and a 5th.

Moss - best thing that happened, got brent out of Rodgers way eventually
Gonzalez - we have Finley, who cares
Lynch - not worth two picks and I'm betting the proof in the pudding turns out to be a bit moldy. we'll see.

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Originally posted by TD:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
However, im very upset about the propencity that Ted has shown in not wanting to make a low risk deal for a former proven pro-bowl (or close to) quality player with high upside to our team.

HAHALMFAO....yep Chuck Woodson doesn't count. Just more dum dum.

yep, he made a good move with Woodson. But put that into perspective. What is the trend here (aka propencity: what has been Ted's MO.) I didnt say he hasnt ever done anything that smacks of risk. He rarely does. Also, the players I mentioned were all available when our team was on the cusp of the playoffs or more. Ted is unwilling to get rid of draft picks at the expense of next year, even if it costs us a chance at something more this year.

I would have parted with a 2011 3rd and 2012 5th, but it's done.

There's still 75% of this season left. You know, they may just figure out how to run the ball a bit better as the season goes along. The running game in the beginning of the 2007 season was eerily similar to what we're seeing in 2010 (again, probably more of an indictment of our o-line coach, but I digress). All is not lost.

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Originally posted by BTP:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
However, im very upset about the propencity that Ted has shown in not wanting to make a low risk deal for a former proven pro-bowl (or close to) quality player with high upside to our team.

Moss
Gonzalez
Lynch

You really need to stop quoting Steve "Homer" True on ESPN 540, only thing you're going to accomplish is show everyone you're a bigger paint thinner drinking moron then him,and that's pretty hard to accomplish.

Especially once you start quoting the exact same Gonzalez trade bullchit that he was on today. We've already been over that circle of stupid with you already a few times over the last two years. Perhaps you could foward it over to your man crush,"Homer" of the actually facts on that entire Gonzalez trade.

Funny, I haven't even listened to the radio yet today. If I did, I typically listen to 1250.. i know people at the station. But I do listen to everything in Milwaukee - perspective is good.

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Originally posted by NJWIS:

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Originally posted by Wisconsin Johnson:
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Yes that's it, he's too stoopid. You'd probably be the first to bitch when Nance blows a blitz pick up that knocks Rodgers out of the game. Go join Diggr at the deep fryer.

don't be a dick. how about a few running plays to test him out? it was detroit after all not the bears or patriots.

I'll stop being a dick when you stop making ridiculous comments like Nance being too stupid to pick up McCarthy's playbook.

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
All of those teams that you are mentioning CA run the ball as a team much better than we do. If you are comparing Joseph Addai, a washed up Edge+hightower, or Pierre Thomas et al. to our current class of HBs.. you are seriously uniformed. Our guys are not in that class of HB (and as you point out they arent even in the upper crust, however, our guys dont even come close to them which should illustrate the point of how bad our running game is).

Stats are for pencil necked geeks. I like other teams shiny objects because TT didn't draft them.

Parker in 2008 - 791 yards 3.8/carry. AWESOME!
Addai in 2009 - 828 yards 3.8/carry. AMAZING!
James in 2008 - 514 yards 3.9/carry. HOLY FART!
Smith in 2003 - 642 yards 3.5/carry. ZOMG!!!!!!
Thomas in 2009 - 793 yards 5.4/carry. GOOD THING HE NEVER GETS INJURED!!!!!

But, yeah, I'm uninformed because you can't get over the fact that Edgerrin James sucked balls for AZ.

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Originally posted by NJWIS:
so packer terms it would have been a 2011 3rd and 2012 5th that might have went to a 4th.

i still make that deal for a guy our GM would have picked at #16.

Not me.

From the GBPG:

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If landing Lynch meant giving up a fourth-rounder plus a sixth- or seventh-rounder, it definitely would have been worth the Packers’ while. However, if that conditional pick is closer to a mid-round pick, then it’s understandable why Thompson, who covets draft picks, might have hesitated.

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Originally posted by Wisconsin Johnson:

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Originally posted by Diggr14:

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Originally posted by Wisconsin Johnson:

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Originally posted by beef:
but if he wises up it could be a cedric benson like deal.

Benson was signed as a free agent with no guaranteed money by Cincy. There was no risk. Hardly the same as trading away picks for Lynch. Need a better analogy, Beef.

It's a good player to player analogy. That is what he is going with, not the exact circumstance. Although - minimal risk vs. free agent... that's close enough.

Minimal risk? BS. Look at what the Packers have done with 2nd, 3rd, 4th draft picks. You are so obviously out of your league here. Get back to the deep fryer.

benson: highly touted rookie, early 1st round talent, struggled to find his place with initial team, has excelled with cincy.

lynch: highly touted rookie, early/mid 1st round talent, struggled to keep his place with initial team, outcome to be determined.

the players are a like, which is similar, not exact.

Seattle is soooo good, 2008 #1 Lawrence Jackson is gone and they have very few good players in the last few years.

And beef, the point is Benson cost the Bengals nadda, nothing, cero...zilch.

I don't agree with everything TT does but I eventually get on board with it b/c I have no other option. Some of you freak out, post stupid reactions (fireable offense?) and continue to puff your chest when things go bad. As fans we can be critical of any move. But what is the reason to constantly post negatively day in and day out? This is a 3-1 team, but the way some of you post its like we've endured an 8 year run like the Lions.

Listen, I'm pissed they didn't get Lynch. I thought he'd look great in green and gold. But at the end of the day, do I have any choice but to accept TT's build through the draft philosophy? No. So I accept TT's moves and continue to cheer on the players that the Packers do have. I suggest you all do the same. I don't see that happening though, as I see this thread being restarted every time Lynch has 100 yard game.

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Originally posted by beef:
benson: highly touted rookie, early 1st round talent, struggled to find his place with initial team, has excelled with cincy.

lynch: highly touted rookie, early/mid 1st round talent, struggled to keep his place with initial team, outcome to be determined.

the players are a like, which is similar, not exact.

But the circumstances of how they were acquired and what they cost each team are entirely different.

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Originally posted by beef:

benson: highly touted rookie, early 1st round talent, struggled to find his place with initial team, has excelled with cincy.

lynch: highly touted rookie, early/mid 1st round talent, struggled to keep his place with initial team, outcome to be determined.

the players are a like, which is similar, not exact.

I see where you are coming from with regards to Lynch being a possible reclamation project like Benson, but that's pretty much where the comparison stops. Considering he (Lynch) is a known turd already in the NFL discipline program, and he's going to cost you some draft picks, there is a lot more riding on the Lynch deal as opposed to signing Benson to a league minimum deal off the scrap heap.

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Originally posted by Diggr14:


Funny, I haven't even listened to the radio yet today.

You're full of chit Diggy, You're rant is exactly the same as Homer's was today on the Radio, almost word for word. Don't even try it.


And then you're going to sit here and lie to us some more? Cut it out;

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If I did, I typically listen to 1250.. i know people at the station.

O'rly? Just from a week or so ago,from your mouth;

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Originally posted by Diggr14:

I listen to a lot of radio, so, digging up audio files if anyone wants to do it: These are the stations I listen to for consistency sake (WSSP 1250 AM, ESPN Radio 540, and very little AM 620). You can go to their archives and listen to callers, talking-heads, and experts.

When you build from the draft, and someone expects extra picks, there is no reason to piss them away. Sad part is that the Bills will probably piss them away anyhow.

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Originally posted by packerboi:

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Originally posted by beef:
benson: highly touted rookie, early 1st round talent, struggled to find his place with initial team, has excelled with cincy.

lynch: highly touted rookie, early/mid 1st round talent, struggled to keep his place with initial team, outcome to be determined.

the players are a like, which is similar, not exact.

But the circumstances of how they were acquired and what they cost each team are entirely different.

yes they are.

I really would have liked this trade to go down for the Packers, I think it would make running the offense a bit easier and allow them to not have to rely on the passing game every week, but a third and a fourth for a guy that may only play for your team for a year and a half and does have character concerns does seem a bit pricey. If you are going to trade two picks for a player I think he has to be part of the long term future of the team.

What's a matter Diggy, waiting a few minutes to Homer run his mouth some more so you can post it in here? Better switch the channel and quote AM 1250 for awhile

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Originally posted by crowhead:
I really would have liked this trade to go down for the Packers, I think it would make running the offense a bit easier and allow them to not have to rely on the passing game every week, but a third and a fourth for a guy that may only play for your team for a year and a half and does have character concerns does seem a bit pricey. If you are going to trade two picks for a player I think he has to be part of the long term future of the team.

Well said. This is pretty much sums up where I am on this. Love your avatar, by the way!

Any strokes yet?

I've got an hour and 15 minutes before boarding a plane. Let's get a "4th and Goal/Reggie Bush" type of reaction in that time. I'm bored.

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Originally posted by Henry:
Any strokes yet?

No but we're giving these out during happy hour today:

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Originally posted by packerboi:

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Originally posted by Henry:
Any strokes yet?

No but we're giving these out during happy hour today:

Nice...I won't need to leave the barstool.

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Originally posted by Tdog:

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There is no way two guys changing up their roles in the offense will get better as they play the position week in and week out.

I'm including Nance and Starks as part of the season long progress.
Some say I'm a dreamer.

We will never get those 22 minutes back. Stay strong.

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Originally posted by NJWIS:
so packer terms it would have been a 2011 3rd and 2012 5th that might have went to a 4th.

i still make that deal for a guy our GM would have picked at #16.

Big assumption that Thompson would have picked Lynch at 16.

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Originally posted by Wisconsin Johnson:


Nice...I won't need to leave the barstool.

Are they endorsed by Sherm Lewis?

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Originally posted by Diggr14:
perspective is good.

Plagiarism isn't.

Do we really need a RB from an 0-4 team?

to both of you

Lynch went to Seattle?? After reading this thread, I just bet my house on Seattle's chances of winning the Super Bowl. I'm rich, biatch!

Oh God !! Some of the same posters who absolutely ridiculed Seattle, calling them a dum dums for signing Breno and Barbre are now praising the very same people who traded for Lynch. Never mind we have a huge hole now at safety, were one chop block away from having no DL depth, but Lynch was the key to the Super Bowl Castle. TT will almost never trade draft picks for players. He's not opposed to signing FA to a reasonable contracts, but trading picks is a no-no, especially picks 2 years from now. Remember, if TT traded any of those 3rd round picks back in 2007 or 2008 Clay Mathews would not be a Packer today.

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Originally posted by Goalline:
Lynch went to Seattle?? After reading this thread, I just bet my house on Seattle's chances of winning the Super Bowl. I'm rich, biatch!

50-1 right now, but you better jump fast because those odds are likley to jump by tomorrow

Wait and see...

How many pages was the thread a few years back when TT failed to bring in Tony Gonzalez? It's getting pretty hysterical that some fans can't comprehend Ted Thompson's strategy in building a team. Bottom line, if he brings in Moss and Gonzalez, Jennings and Finley aren't the same calibur of players they are today.

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Originally posted by ammo:
TT will almost never trade draft picks for players. He's not opposed to signing FA to a reasonable contracts, but trading picks is a no-no, especially picks 2 years from now. Remember, if TT traded any of those 3rd round picks back in 2007 or 2008 Clay Mathews would not be a Packer today.

Hehe, but what about the picks he traded to get Matthews? If he's willing to trade future picks for rookies, why not for veterans? But I'm not arguing that he should've traded for Lynch. I honestly have not made up my mind on that subject. Too late, anyway.

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Originally posted by beef:
benson: highly touted rookie, early 1st round talent, struggled to find his place with initial team, has excelled with cincy.

lynch: highly touted rookie, early/mid 1st round talent, struggled to keep his place with initial team, outcome to be determined.

the players are a like, which is similar, not exact.

I think you are talking about Julius Jones

*In return, Buffalo is reportedly receiving a 2011 fourth round pick and conditional 2012 pick.

OK, I made up my mind. I would've taken him for a FRREAKING 4th rounder.

I don't think TT likes to handcuff himself on draft day. Having all his picks gives him options, like trading up for CMIII and Burnett. If he doesn't have the 3rd in 2009 and 4th in 2010, he can't get those guys.

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Originally posted by CUPackFan:
I don't think TT likes to handcuff himself on draft day. Having all his picks gives him options, like trading up for CMIII and Burnett. If he doesn't have the 3rd in 2009 and 4th in 2010, he can't get those guys.

But he still traded away picks. Picks traded away are still picks traded away. He won't have his 4th round pick this season because of last year's trade.

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Originally posted by Sep Woodson:
*In return, Buffalo is reportedly receiving a 2011 fourth round pick and conditional 2012 pick.

OK, I made up my mind. I would've taken him for a FRREAKING 4th rounder.

Do you think Buffalo would have taken Green Bay's 4th rounder instead of Seattle's?

Logically (I know), Green Bay's 4th rounder will likely be in the bottom 5-10 of the round vs Seattle's 4th rounder which will likely be in the top 5-10 of the round.

Perhaps, maybe, by chance, Buffalo wanted more than Green Bay's 4th rounder? Especially since Seattle's 4th rounder will be much more like Green Bay's 3rd round pick?