Ho-Hum SB???

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In his 3 SB's Manning has a total of 3 TD's and 4 picks.

Last night showed what happens when your o-line doesn't hold up. Clady, Walton and Koppen all out for the season so franchise LT and top-two centers out. The first play showed why having a good center is important. Top it off with Franklin not being able to contain Avril and Manning was going to get hit and not get the ball out quick enough too often.

Rodgers has thrown just 1 pick six in his entire career!

Seriously?! Instead of getting officials who are younger, in shape, & who can keep up with the pace of the game, let's screw the up tempo teams and coddle these fossils.

Brilliant.

They have a head coach with a background in cheating, a league leading amount of PED suspensions, and they admit to playing the odds with refs in regards to pass interference/illegal contact/holding penalties. I don't care if they're not the only ones in he NFL doing those things, it's still cheating. 

I enjoyed the SB because I wanted Seattle to win.  One reason is I wanted the team with the dominant defense to beat the team with the dominant offense.

As to Manning, he seems like a nice enough guy, but I somehow do not root for him all that much.  I also never really rooted for the Broncos save the Orange Crush team that got crushed by the Cowboys.  Part of that is probably due to Elway holding the Colts hostage.  Maybe also because both times the Brownies played them in the AFC championship (The Drive and the Byner fumble), I really wanted the Browns to win.

Shaking in Seattle? This from @Vikings: We are all 0-0. 2014 here we come! #Skol pic.twitter.com/jOaQtuSYXS

— Mark Craig (@markcraignfl) February 3, 2014

“At halftime, Ted Nugent is going to shoot Joe Namath’s coat.”

—@AlbertBrooks, the comedian, in the first half of the Super Bowl.

Just nuts how bad Denver self-destructed. Definitely didn't see that one coming.

Those of you who think the Packer defense is light years away really need to look at whom is injured.

Really disappointed the Pack couldn't get by SF. I'm certain Green Bay would've been in the Super Bowl or at least a very tight game in the NFC CG vs. Seattle.

I think whoever was coming out of the NFC was winning the whole thing.

I truly can't believe how bad Denver played. Completely shocking.

They didn't get tested much all season, that's the downside of an "easy" schedule And a defense that gave up 25 points/game in the regular season didn't help

http://www.pro-football-refere...m/teams/den/2013.htm

I like the win % probability charts that they have on that site too - it shows the relative chances of winning the game as it moves from start to finish.

(scroll down in the box-score link below)

This one was over fast.

http://www.pro-football-refere...res/201402020den.htm

Hard to call Peyton "the greatest evah" given his 1-2 record in the SB and the way he performed last night

Game wasn't a surprise. Watched how physical the 49er/hawk game was. Expected them to bring it to the SB...and they did. For badger fans..we know Wilson is more than just a game manager.

So Carroll probably (well, almost definitely) broke NCAA recruiting rules while at USC. This makes the Seahawks cheaters? Don't quite see the logic there.

Lots of PED suspensions? PED use is rampant throughout the league, the Seahawks just had more of their guys get caught. Hell, Packers players have served suspensions for it as well. I guess our beloved Packers are cheaters as well, but just not as blatant as the Seahawks.

Playing the odds regards to pass interference/illegal contact/holding penalties with refs = cheating too? That's just smart football. McCarthy himself has admitted that the Packers scout officiating crews to gauge their tendencies in calling penalties...is McCarthy cultivating a cheating culture by doing so?

I think a bit of objectivity is in order.

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Seattle PED suspensions:

Brandon Browner

Richard Sherman

LenDale White

Walter Thurmond

Allen Barbre

LeRoy Hill

John Moffit

Winston Guy

Bruce Irvin

Brandon Browner again, this time indefinitely

On the Packers side, I have:

Mike Neal

Pretty much the same, when you look at it objectively 

Looks about even. 

Pete Carroll has sucked ass as an NFL HC every where he went except Seattle. Wonder why that is?

Everything worked out well for them this season. Congrats. Enjoy the trophy, just remember who it is named after. There's a reason for that.

So pastry cream and bacon grease are PEDs?

"Playing the odds with refs in regards to pass interference/illegal contact/holding penalties" is cheating? Sounds like being smart to me.

Carroll's past alone doesn't make them cheaters, it makes Pete Carroll a cheater. You make it sound like he had some incidental recruiting violations, like he accidentally bought a recruit a burger from McDonalds, they had an entire season wiped off the books and a player's Heisman got taken away because of rules that were broken under his watch. What it points to is that Pete Carroll has no problem with breaking the rules (or cheating).

Like I said, just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it okay, they're still breaking the rules (or cheating). And the fact that they have more violators than 31 other teams tells me that, while the staff or other players in the locker room aren't encouraging the practice, they don't seem to be doing much or have been unsuccessful at discouraging the practice. To me, and this is just my opinion, allowing it to happen is the same as condoning it. And last time I checked Pass Interference is against the rules (or cheating) so you are knowingly breaking the rules because you know it won't get called every time...sounds a lot like cheating to me. 

And again, just because everyone is violating the rules doesn't mean it's allowable. It's still cheating if GB does it. Seattle has a documented history of bending, often times breaking the rules under Pete Carroll to suit their needs which makes them cheaters. 

Boris:

Really disappointed the Pack couldn't get by SF. I'm certain Green Bay would've been in the Super Bowl or at least a very tight game in the NFC CG vs. Seattle.

I could not disagree more.  I think the conditions in Lambeau and the fact that it was a home game helped make for a close game with SF.

In my opinion if one looks at the body of work (rather than qualifying things on the basis of a single game), Seattle's defense dominated.  Right up with the best defenses in the last 10 years, easily.  Plus in Seattle.

The likeliest scenario is the Packer offense has a much harder time on Seattle's D than does the Seahawk offense against the Packer's injury-plagued defense.

That's not far from the mentality that "we were one play from beating SF and SF was one play from beating SEA, so we were only a couple plays from the SB, which we probably could have won."  Sounds more like MIN reasoning.  Or seven degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.

Cheat Carroll wasn't just cheating basically like everyone else.  His shenanigans were so overt and so over the top that it was almost as though he was purposely mocking the rules while at U$C.  Then he became the first rat off the ship when it was obvious that the program was going to get hammered.  

He's a dirtbag, and about the only 'rule' you can break in the NFL as a coach is PEDs.  I guess salary cap is another, but I have no idea if Cheat has any role in cap management.  I'd suspect he does not.  I don't care that their DBs play physically - I actually agree with pushing the envelope in that regard.  I just think his well-earned reputation for sliminess precedes him and that colors a lot of folks' perspectives.  

I'll just say that if they ever catch Seattle doing anything dirty, I'll be about as surprised as I am when I see Kiel posting about his interior decorating plans.  

That Packers defense against that Broncos offense and the Packers had a good chance at being embarrassed.

Niners could have won, possibly the Panthers. Why? They can pressure the QB consistently.

Ooooohh There's an effin' surprise

You peeked. Mrs. Blair Kiel decided she's "tired" of color and went beige last week....kind of like when she left Goalline for me.

She did keep the colored dog.

New:

That little bitch...I meant the dog.

Nope.  Really didn't have to peek to know what you like to do.

bamboo floors, removed the half-height wall , changed the hardware & the glass in the front doors from straight lines... to curves.

Did the mantel monkey live through the remodel ?

Alive and well.

I don't really know the ins and outs of the USC scandal, apart from the fact that Carroll clearly got out while the getting was good by taking the Seattle job.

I really believe to be a top flight Division 1 football program, the old saying "If you're not cheating, you're not trying" is applicable. Seems ol' Pete tried really, really hard. So hard that he had to leave what I imagine was one hell of a great gig.

Again, that's really not the point, though. I can't say his shady dealings at USC automatically equates to the Seahawks being a team of cheaters, although I am beginning to understand why some of you look at the Seahawk organization with that eye of skepticism. I honestly thought most Packer fans were just exorcising residual resentment from the Fail Mary game, and I still think that's a large part of it for a big segment of the fanbase. 

I'm sure that still makes people's blood boil - including my own to a degree.  The horrible call wasn't Cheat's fault, though.  It was his ridiculous reaction to the replay result about 5 feet from MM that pissed me off.

Sure does still make my blood boil. To see Tate's arm fly off and then when the "simultaneous possession" was called... ah, heck. We know what it was, and it comes out of the back end of a horse.

Cheat just rubbed it in with his loud mouth, just like the rest of his team. 

Carroll and Tate were both Grade A jags that night, without a doubt. 

The light at the entrance of Keil's house looks like it was purchased out of skymall

Court jester's entrance.  

That's actually Kiels house? I thought it was a screenshot out of Better Homes & Gardens