Can't use the injury excuse going into the teeth of the schedule. This is as healthy as I remember the Packers being in years..
All 53, including a knee-braced Aaron Rodgers, practiced on Wednesday. https://t.co/DXKoh4TzTA pic.twitter.com/TamYs5p31Z
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) October 24, 2018
No Kumrow, no chance.
McCarthy says based off Wednesday's padded practice, he believes Randall Cobb and Geronimo Allison are on pace to play Sunday in LA. Same for CB Jaire Alexander.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) October 25, 2018
Put Breeland outside. Slide Tramon to safety. No Brice.
Really McStubborn, it isn't that hard
Sounds like Bashaud Breeland will be available in LA. The question is, what role will he have? McCarthy: "How we use him, we'll see what Sunday brings. But it's good to have him in the mix and part of the plan."
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) October 25, 2018
packerboi posted:Can't use the injury excuse going into the teeth of the schedule. This is as healthy as I remember the Packers being in years..
All 53, including a knee-braced Aaron Rodgers, practiced on Wednesday. https://t.co/DXKoh4TzTA pic.twitter.com/TamYs5p31Z
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) October 24, 2018
Let's be honest when was the last time we heard the sentence "This is as healthy as they have been in years" If they can get lucky and keep it that way they could be a tough out for teams.
When Chuck Noland landed on a deserted island in the Pacific with a bunch of washed up Fedex boxes surrounded by sand, warmth, and water the last thing he needed was to unbox a worthless ****ing pair of ice skates.
Those skates opened coconuts, chopped wood, and extracted an infected tooth. Those skates saved his life.
Aaron Jones is Mikes pair of skates. I can’t explain it any better than that. Sometimes survival is hiding in plain sight.
And Philbin is MM's Wilson?
packerboi posted:Put Breeland outside. Slide Tramon to safety. No Brice.
Really McStubborn, it isn't that hard
I'm pretty sure MM doesn't decide who plays on D.
Lining up Tramon Williams against the Ram's fastest receiver is the key to victory.
GBFanForLife posted:Lining up Tramon Williams against the Ram's fastest receiver is the key to victory.
We do what we do.
GBFanForLife posted:Lining up Tramon Williams against the Ram's fastest receiver is the key to victory.
too bad it's not victory for the Pack
I don't think Breeland is going to be anything more than a slot guy this season. Injury, late add = part timer.
Still, he doesn't have to be some all world CB playing on the outside to help step up the backfield. I seem to recall some scouts actually had Breeland pegged as more of a safety.
Damn did Breeland pull his hamstring getting his luggage at the GB airport? I would love to know the story about how the Packers seem to have so many hamstring injuries.
Pretty close. There was some blurb article a couple weeks back about how he was doing "great things" in practice when it was really more about him being injured again. I believe the explanation was "I knew my body wasn't ready to go full speed but I did it anyway to give my all" kind of stuff.
I hope the guy contributes but just like the rest of this team this year, expectations should probably be couched.
The Heckler posted:Damn did Breeland pull his hamstring getting his luggage at the GB airport? I would love to know the story about how the Packers seem to have so many hamstring injuries.
Stretching...
ChilliJon posted:When Chuck Noland landed on a deserted island in the Pacific with a bunch of washed up Fedex boxes surrounded by sand, warmth, and water the last thing he needed was to unbox a worthless ****ing pair of ice skates.
Those skates opened coconuts, chopped wood, and extracted an infected tooth. Those skates saved his life.
Aaron Jones is Mikes pair of skates. I can’t explain it any better than that. Sometimes survival is hiding in plain sight.
How do you account for his struggles in pass pro? That’s the only thing holding him back and likely has prevented further injury to our franchise qb. Once defenses find that weak link, especially with the pass rush, they’re going to throw everything they have at it until it no longer works.
The Heckler posted:Damn did Breeland pull his hamstring getting his luggage at the GB airport? I would love to know the story about how the Packers seem to have so many hamstring injuries.
I’ve wondered if it’s this grass/turf combo field they installed years ago? I don’t understand why everyone hasn’t figured out how to just have grass and make it work? It’s almost 2019, we have a robot that does parkour, but we haven’t figured out how to make a grass only field work for a multi billion dollar industry for 64 to 76 hours a year?
The last time Aaron Rodgers was this big an underdog in the regular season was vs. 2010 Jets. Packers won outright.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) October 26, 2018
Rodgers has been a 7+ point underdog twice in the playoffs and covered both times. Packers lost each game in OT without him ever touching the ball.
Grave Digger posted:The Heckler posted:Damn did Breeland pull his hamstring getting his luggage at the GB airport? I would love to know the story about how the Packers seem to have so many hamstring injuries.
I’ve wondered if it’s this grass/turf combo field they installed years ago? I don’t understand why everyone hasn’t figured out how to just have grass and make it work? It’s almost 2019, we have a robot that does parkour, but we haven’t figured out how to make a grass only field work for a multi billion dollar industry for 64 to 76 hours a year?
If you're referring to Lambeau's turf, I don't think Breeland has ever played on it. I don't think their practice field has the same turf but I could be wrong.
Grave Digger posted:ChilliJon posted:When Chuck Noland landed on a deserted island in the Pacific with a bunch of washed up Fedex boxes surrounded by sand, warmth, and water the last thing he needed was to unbox a worthless ****ing pair of ice skates.
Those skates opened coconuts, chopped wood, and extracted an infected tooth. Those skates saved his life.
Aaron Jones is Mikes pair of skates. I can’t explain it any better than that. Sometimes survival is hiding in plain sight.
How do you account for his struggles in pass pro? That’s the only thing holding him back and likely has prevented further injury to our franchise qb. Once defenses find that weak link, especially with the pass rush, they’re going to throw everything they have at it until it no longer works.
Where were those struggles in pass protection in 2017 from week 4 through week 7 when he was the featured back and put up about 350 yards rushing? In the Dallas and New Orleans games the other backs were pretty much non existent but Jones excelled. Where was the concern for his shoddy pass protection?
Maybe because the OL was playing better at that time and 33 wasn't put in positions where he had to pick up a blitzer?
Well, McCray isn’t starting so that’s a plus.
DH13 posted:Maybe because the OL was playing better at that time and 33 wasn't put in positions where he had to pick up a blitzer?
Maybe. I just haven't seen many examples of him missing a block. Yes, there have been some and I would definitely put the other two backs a notch above him in pass protection. But I've seen Williams and Montgomery miss blocks from time to time as well.
But how about getting him some reps to work on this so called problem? And maybe win some more games at the same time.
Todd Gurley can't block for shit either. It doesn't matter, they play him extensively anyway.
That Aaron Jones, at times, not always, struggles with pass pro is no excuse to give him just 6-8 carries a game. None.
The talent gap between Jones and Williams or Monty is so gaping, there is just no reason he shouldn't be getting 20 touches per game. 15 as a RB, 5 as a WR.
I cannot imagine a Sean McVay or a Doug Pederson or a Bill Billichek using Jones so ridiculously little.
What he said.
His struggles were still there. His snap count % is actually higher than it was last year (33% of total plays in 2018 vs. 22% in 2017). He’s seeing the field more, he’s just not an every down back. Until he can start rocking blitzes like Williams or Monty can, he’s going to be splitting time. He’s not Todd Gurley, he’s not Adrian Peterson, his talent isn’t great enough to trump having to earn playing time. You earn PT in practice, obviously there’s something in practice they’re not seeing. Our 2 losses weren’t because we didn’t run Aaron Jones enough.
Do you guys remember Ahman Green? The guy had a fumbling problem. I mean a legit fumbling problem. He never really did fully get rid of that problem but it didn't matter, did it?
Jones is not Ahman Green.
I see the Packers winning Sunday. Rams undefeated, heavily favored to win, Packers in disarray for the most part this season, etc. etc. But, with an extra week to prepare, healthy and hopefully motivated to prove their worth I see us coming out on top. Hope I'm right.
Weren't the Packers like 6 point underdogs to Houston when Wade Phillips was the DC there? After a bye week on a Sunday Night? Rodgers threw 6 TD's - I think.
So I guess that means Packers lose by 17
I don't think it was ever an official time, but in 1998 at Nebraska, Ahman Green registered a 4.17 40 time. Like I say, not official, but he did have exceptional acceleration for a 220 lb. guy. I think at the combine he was listed as a 4.4 guy for the 40.
Jones is very quick with very good acceleration as well, but I agree that he is a notch below Green who was just incredibly strong for his size as well. Jones is the best pure runner since Lacy in 2014, but I agree that Green was in another class from everyone else. He was the best pure runner the Pack had since I started watching in '78.
Grave Digger posted:Jones is not Ahman Green.
Never said he was but I think he can be the best RB in a Packer uniform since Green. Won't happen with 6 or 7 carries a game, though.
33's other problem is his durability.
Where were those struggles in pass protection in 2017 from week 4 through week 7 when he was the featured back and put up about 350 yards rushing?
What happened after week 7? Injured. GB doesn't have the luxury of "saving him for the playoffs" so it may be a moot point but he also had some dings earlier this year that took him off the field. We don't know what his health situation is on a week to week basis unless something is reported. We'll see what happens if they start giving him more snaps on a regular basis. Then again, both Williams and Monty have shown value in this offense, especially Monty. So you don't want to completely eliminate them from the game plan either.
Remembering Ahman Green's running brings tears to my eyes. He was one fast, smooth and tough MF. He wasn't a jump cut runner, he didn't have to be. When he saw a crease, he'd make the one cut and he was gone. Sometimes breaking arm tackles or running over DB's to get there. Excellent at getting behind his pads. Clearly a track guy in the open field. Effortless stride as he pulled away from everybody.
fightphoe93 posted:I don't think it was ever an official time, but in 1998 at Nebraska, Ahman Green registered a 4.17 40 time. Like I say, not official, but he did have exceptional acceleration for a 220 lb. guy. I think at the combine he was listed as a 4.4 guy for the 40.
Jones is very quick with very good acceleration as well, but I agree that he is a notch below Green who was just incredibly strong for his size as well. Jones is the best pure runner since Lacy in 2014, but I agree that Green was in another class from everyone else. He was the best pure runner the Pack had since I started watching in '78.
I agree. The one guy that was even close was pre-knee injury Eddie Lee Ivery. He looked electric in the preseason of his rookie year before he blew out his knee on that crappy old Soldier's field turf.
MichiganPacker posted:fightphoe93 posted:I don't think it was ever an official time, but in 1998 at Nebraska, Ahman Green registered a 4.17 40 time. Like I say, not official, but he did have exceptional acceleration for a 220 lb. guy. I think at the combine he was listed as a 4.4 guy for the 40.
Jones is very quick with very good acceleration as well, but I agree that he is a notch below Green who was just incredibly strong for his size as well. Jones is the best pure runner since Lacy in 2014, but I agree that Green was in another class from everyone else. He was the best pure runner the Pack had since I started watching in '78.
I agree. The one guy that was even close was pre-knee injury Eddie Lee Ivery. He looked electric in the preseason of his rookie year before he blew out his knee on that crappy old Soldier's field turf.
Of course, running behind Clifton, Wahle, Flanagan, Rivera, and Tauscher in their primes made a great back play at a HOF level for a 3-4 period.
It's no coincidence that Eddie Lacy looked great running behind Bulaga, Lang, Linsley, Sitton, and Bakh.
Great tackles make a passing game go.
Great interior line play makes the running game go.
Yes, we will never know how great Eddie Lee Ivery could have been. I think he had a 300 yard rushing game when he was in college. He really did look good for that incredibly short stint he was 100% healthy. I think he ended up with like 2 serious knee injuries before it was all said and done.
Edit: My flashbacks to 1979 were that the Pack had 2 very talented rookie RBs and they both had knee injuries. Ivery of course, and even Steve Atkins looked good too, but I believe he blew out his knee as well. Atkins never really recovered, at least Ivery partially recovered and had some decent years.
Healthy team:
Jaire Alexander and Geronimo Allison are good to go Sunday against the Rams. Randall Cobb remains questionable. The full injury report: https://t.co/HnSMRMsaMW pic.twitter.com/LNwfUsFrid
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) October 26, 2018
WTH happened to St. Brown?
These guys can't even practice without getting hurt?
