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When playing against the Packers, however, Wilson has completed 98 passes on 174 attempts (56.3%) for 1,134 yards, eight touchdowns and 10 interceptions. This is all good for a passer rating of only 67.6, more than 30 points lower than it is against non-Packers teams. His TD:INT ratio of 3-to-1 against non-Packers teams drops below 1-to-1 against the Packers, and his 8.0 yards per attempt drops to 6.5.



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Henry posted:

I don't think that taste is going away until we're all dead and gone.

No. It's right up there with 4th and 26, the Favre interception in OT against the Giants, and the Jerry Rice fumble game. None of those ever really go away, but another Super Bowl win would help reduce the increased in my blood pressure whenever I see replays. 

MichiganPacker2 posted:
Henry posted:

I don't think that taste is going away until we're all dead and gone.

No. It's right up there with 4th and 26, the Favre interception in OT against the Giants, and the Jerry Rice fumble game. None of those ever really go away, but another Super Bowl win would help reduce the increased in my blood pressure whenever I see replays. 

"3 million people saw a fumble...one guy didn't..."

MichiganPacker2 posted:
Henry posted:

I don't think that taste is going away until we're all dead and gone.

No. It's right up there with 4th and 26, the Favre interception in OT against the Giants, and the Jerry Rice fumble game. None of those ever really go away, but another Super Bowl win would help reduce the increased in my blood pressure whenever I see replays. 

You mean like watching Eagles and Seahawks "playoff moments"?  I think Al brushed over the PTSD incident to stop Packers fans from going into seizures.

Quandre Diggs is back there & he makes the Seahawks defense much better. 

Fully expecting bracket type coverage on Adams w/Diggs at Safety. 

Packers pass D has their hands full with Lockett & Metcalf. Hopefully Jaire & King are up to the task.

Stopping the Seahawks run is Paramount. Lynch doesn't go down easy. The Packers need to tackle just like they did vs. the Vikings on MNF.

They have to collapse the pocket & make sure they twist & pull him down to the ground. Can't let Russ escape the pocket. 

This Seattle team is probably a 6 win team without Wilson. Much like the Packers in 2017. 

The Packers will need to play their best game for a full 60:01 --- yes they need to play an extra second because the Seahawks never quit. 

Seattle is actually better on the road than at home this year. They have a lot of 1 possession games & are very good at winning close games. Yes, Seattle knows how to win ugly but so do the Packers. 

Should be another really good playoff game. 

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Seattle has a great QB, obviously, and good WRs, but their OL is weak, and their rush is lukewarm, at best.
Defensively, they have a fair DL, good, fast LBs, but they are crap at DB. Their pass rush didn't produce a lot of sacks during the regular season, and they are weak against the run.

I think these will play to our strengths on both sides of the ball. We should feed them a steady diet of Jones and (hopefully) Williams on offense, and the Smith Bros. & Co. should feast on defense.

Something interesting I noticed while perusing stats was that the 'Hawks have had to face roughly 2 games MORE worth of snaps on defense than the Packers have (80+ during regular season plus around 60 yesterday). Surely fatigue is playing a role by now.

I also think that the Packers tackling has to be as good as it was (and maybe better) than it was in MN.  Also, two things the Packers need to make sure they accomplish on defense and it is pretty obviously to contain Wilson's deep throws and make sure he can't escape the pocket and run all day.  

Offensively, they have to be able to run the ball and milk the clock to keep Wilson off the field.  Seattle has given up some points this year so I do think if the Packers can run the ball and take care of business in the passing offense they should put up enough to win. 

The Detroit game solidified my feeling that this Packer team does not know how to handle winning yet. They woke up to reality in the 4th and pulled it out of the fire. I'm expecting them to be ready to play at the opening whistle for this one but this will be a test. Playoff football is a different animal. The refs will let them play (as seen in the Saints/Queenies game). 

michiganjoe posted:

No real idea what to expect from this team. They go into Minnesota and handle an obviously pretty good Viking team and then struggle against a very lackluster Lion team. Anything from a convincing and dominant victory to completely shitting the bed strikes me as possible. 

Yeah, I feel that they could go one-and-done or they could go all the way and win the Championship. Hard to figure this team out. The one thing they did, this season that I hoped they would do, was sweep the NFC North. One game at a time and let's hope the fired up Packers team is the one that shows up the rest of the way. GO PACK, GO!!!

michiganjoe posted:

Anything from a convincing and dominant victory to completely shitting the bed strikes me as possible. 

It's not SF or LA. This Packer team doesn't shit the bed in Lambeau.

The only reason Seattle is here is because of their QB. 

The Packers should own the LoS in this one. The Packers are better in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

Count me in as well as someone that has no idea how this one will play out. 

Yes I know they are at home and Wilson has struggled there.  But I was also expecting them to lose in MN and blow out the Lions and neither scenario happened. 

But that’s been the playoffs so far.  New England and New Orleans losing wasn’t really expected.  Buffalo melting down the way they did was mildly surprising.  Heck, it’s not like Seattle dominated their game despite Wentz getting hurt and half that team on the IR. 

 

MichiganPacker2 posted:
Henry posted:

I don't think that taste is going away until we're all dead and gone.

No. It's right up there with 4th and 26, the Favre interception in OT against the Giants, and the Jerry Rice fumble game. None of those ever really go away, but another Super Bowl win would help reduce the increased in my blood pressure whenever I see replays. 

That interception is the one that will always be seared into my brain. I screamed, "That's IT. I'm done! Let that kid start from now on, he can't be any worse!"

QuietOne posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Henry posted:

I don't think that taste is going away until we're all dead and gone.

No. It's right up there with 4th and 26, the Favre interception in OT against the Giants, and the Jerry Rice fumble game. None of those ever really go away, but another Super Bowl win would help reduce the increased in my blood pressure whenever I see replays. 

That interception is the one that will always be seared into my brain. I screamed, "That's IT. I'm done! Let that kid start from now on, he can't be any worse!"

This angle shows the RB breaking free for the check down with no one within 10 yards of him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbbZ7_dGTTE

QuietOne posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Henry posted:

I don't think that taste is going away until we're all dead and gone.

No. It's right up there with 4th and 26, the Favre interception in OT against the Giants, and the Jerry Rice fumble game. None of those ever really go away, but another Super Bowl win would help reduce the increased in my blood pressure whenever I see replays. 

That interception is the one that will always be seared into my brain. I screamed, "That's IT. I'm done! Let that kid start from now on, he can't be any worse!"

Oh yes there was the one against the Giants and the one against the Eagles (I think in the same 4th and 26 game) Bert just heaved it up with no one around.

Anyhow, back to this weekend, what I would really like to have happen again is a repeat of the "we want the ball and we are going to score" moment.

Henry posted:

Great article about LaFleur and the challenges of first year coaching.

Really liking LaFrog.  Seems like there's a lot more than the latest boy wonder bit.

"The intent of a week of self-scouting was to find what the offense does best, most often. For much of the year, few could put a finger on what that exactly is and LaFleur would bristle at the idea of needing an identity outside of winning. "

It's run the ball to the left side.   Lewis and Lazard should be on that side as well when possible.   In the passing game, it's short rhythm passing with the ball coming out on time.  

Last week was a blessing.  MLF installed a horrible game plan that called for way too many shots.  (I think it was 14 or more passes of over 20 yards)  He learns and adapts quickly, so I expect to see exactly what we need on Sunday. 

QuietOne posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Henry posted:

I don't think that taste is going away until we're all dead and gone.

No. It's right up there with 4th and 26, the Favre interception in OT against the Giants, and the Jerry Rice fumble game. None of those ever really go away, but another Super Bowl win would help reduce the increased in my blood pressure whenever I see replays. 

That interception is the one that will always be seared into my brain. I screamed, "That's IT. I'm done! Let that kid start from now on, he can't be any worse!"

What is even worse is that every other receiver on that play was WIDE open! #4 had decided before the play happened that he was throwing to Driver.

Still the worse play was the overtime interception v. Philly in the 4th and 26 game. #4 simply threw that ball in the air in the general direction of Javon Walker because that is what he had done most of the year, and Walker had bailed him out.

That was the worst throw I think I have ever seen an NFL player make. I was done with him after that play.

 

Boris posted:
michiganjoe posted:

Anything from a convincing and dominant victory to completely shitting the bed strikes me as possible. 

It's not SF or LA. This Packer team doesn't shit the bed in Lambeau.

The only reason Seattle is here is because of their QB. 

The Packers should own the LoS in this one. The Packers are better in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

If they can contain Clowney they should be able to score 30 points Sunday. Clowney can wreck a lot of planning. 

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