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Originally Posted by Fedya:
Originally Posted by Pakrz:

       

Guion is a dumdum first and foremost.  

 

Prosecution wise, that's not a ton a weed.  His gun could be lawfully registered.  He can explain the large amount of cash based on his employment.  If you break it all down, he'll probably get zinged with a misdemeanor possession charge when it's all said and done.  

 

You can argue that none of what he did should even be illegal.

But the weed possession is illegal so it's not debatable.  Whether or not it should be is a completely different discussion. 

Originally Posted by JJSD:

So a gun, more than 3/4 of a pound of grass and just under $200k in cash in the car?  I'm sure all of that can be explained properly.  

 

Oy.  See ya later.

For an NFL player, $200K is not that hard to explain.  Gun might be legal if he was carrying it in accordance with state laws.  As for the weed, maybe he took a wrong turn and thought he was in Washington.

Originally Posted by Satori:
Originally Posted by Pakrz:
 

But man.. that dude is a dumdum.

What happens to the cash seized ? it was in the same bag as the weed

That amount of money is almost impossible for most of us to explain... but when you play in the NFL and have that kind of disposable cash, I think even a mediocre lawyer could successfully separate the cash and the weed in court.  

 

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What happens to the cash seized ? it was in the same bag as the weed
The police buy some nice toys for themselves.  (Actually, I'm not certain what happens to asset forfeiture money in Florida.)

Asset forfeiture has been one of the nastier perversions of the law, turning inanimate objects into defendants and giving the police a huge incentive to go after the easy low-hanging fruit of money to confiscate and not the harder task of solving crimes with actual victims like burglary and murder.

I know you all think I'm a dipschit for saying the War on Drugs is evil, but somebody has to be the Cassandra pointing it out.
Originally Posted by Fedya:
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 giving the police a huge incentive to go after the easy low-hanging fruit of money to confiscate and not the harder task of solving crimes with actual victims like burglary and murder.


That's a stupid comment.  If you're under the impression that running drugs is a victimless crime you're taking a very shallow view on the issue.  To insinuate that law enforcement ignores crimes such as burglary and murder so they can chase down money is ridiculous. 

 

Kind of ironic that burglary and murder are side-effects of illegal drugs, eh?

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Kind of ironic that burglary and murder are side-effects of illegal drugs, eh?
Amazing how many people never learned the lessons of the disaster that was Prohibition.

Edited to add:

Or let's put it another way: would Warren Sapp have gotten into an assault charge over disputing the price if porsitution were legal?  It would be easier to negotiate a fair trade (or resolve any disputes if things go wrong) if you didn't have the threat of state violence hovering over the negotiations.
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We should have expected something like this from an-Viking.  What an Idot!

 

He's done in GB.  Packers wont re-sign him.  He didn't have the good of a year.  And then the Idot blew the rest of his NFL career up in smoke too.  With all that is going wrong with the NFL now, the NFL and the owners will want no part of an Idot like this.  At least he was a Viking first.

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Originally Posted by pduck:

You know what the worst part of all this is? Less than 24 hours ago, I posted what a classy organization the Packers are.

 

You guys will never take me seriously again.

lol, that was my first thought when I saw the thread.  

 

Damn, I just said I would MARRY the organization.. 

 

If you're reading this Packers organization, I still would say "I do" 

Originally Posted by Fedya:
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Kind of ironic that burglary and murder are side-effects of illegal drugs, eh?
Amazing how many people never learned the lessons of the disaster that was Prohibition.

Edited to add:

Or let's put it another way: would Warren Sapp have gotten into an assault charge over disputing the price if porsitution were legal?  It would be easier to negotiate a fair trade (or resolve any disputes if things go wrong) if you didn't have the threat of state violence hovering over the negotiations.

...and drops some truth into the whole deal. Legalize it all.

Originally Posted by Pakrz:
Kind of ironic that burglary and murder are side-effects of illegal drugs, eh?

From alcoholics, tweakers, junkies, and crack heads, sure.

Highly dubious that pot smokers cause any significant crime.

 

If pot were decriminalized/legalized where it could be separated from the same people that deal other drugs, police resources could be used much more effectively. JMHO.

To the worthless sports media and the NFL the truth does not matter.

 

On Hungry5's recommendation I looked up the NFL Personal Conduct Policy:

 

"Standard of Conduct:

While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful.

 

Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."

 

I have no problem with the concept of leagues needing to protect their "image," but the sanctimonious sports media has gone totally out of control with thier hack reporting and now it's gotten to the point where the rights of athletes are being seriously compromised. 

Originally Posted by The Ref fka Blair Kiel:

Starke is in the  local trinity of  speed traps along with beautiful Waldo and Lawtey, that every dumbass within 100 miles knows better than to do anything over the speed limit or bad driving. . AAA actually put out an advisory on the speed traps. Just give the local po pos a reason to pull you over. 

Is this in Hazzard county?

Originally Posted by FreeSafety:

It was unloaded and in a case. Registered to him, albeit in another state.

 

Although it doesn't look good with the drugs and money, I think any first year law student could get the gun off the table. What is the crime?

I think the bigger problem is that this will allow the police to get a warrant and start to really dig around in Guion's life.  You're right that the gun will get tossed and the money might be explained away due to his profession but when you look at all of it together, it's easy to assume that Guion had some "extracurricular" activities that might get him in hot water.  Now if Guion is not connected to drug dealing and this was all just bad timing on his part with the drugs, money and gun, then you're right, he'll get a slap on the wrist.  But something tells me Guion is doing more than just getting high and throwing $190k around at the club.  

The only thing Guion did wrong is get caught. Weed? Meh. Safely transported registered firearm? Not wrong. Large quantity of his own cash? Not wrong. It all seems very shady to have a lot of money, a lot of drugs, and a gun on hand, but it could easily be that he was going to a party (hence the weed) at  the skrip club (hence the money) and it's Florida so obviously you need a gun (not being sarcastic).
Originally Posted by Maynard:

I often buy multiple cases of beer with the intent to share with friends, not sell.  Maybe he was planning to do the same.

The Costco defense.  Although, sharing is still distributing, so no.  Stocking up for personal use will be the argument. 

 

It's all going to be about what is on the cell phone.  Looking for pay and owes.  Doesn't look like they have any.  Or a scale.

 

Hardest to explain is the cash.  The gun is registered and in a case.  Not normally a big deal in 'Merica.

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