Mason Crosby - Keep or Cut?

He should be really thankful to MM and the Packers. Not many coaches or organizations give that much leeway. Definitely needs some competition for training camp.

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Originally posted by Goalline:
Cut. I don't care if he becomes Jan Stenerud, not worth the jack.

Agree.

Came across this one this morning

Which Packer place kicker holds the record for the most consecutive regular season FG's made ?

Jan Stenerud
Chris Jacke
Ryan Longwell
Mason Crosby
Chester Marcol


Consecutive Regular-Season Field Goals Made - 23, Mason Crosby, 2010-'11 (17, Chris Jacke in 1993).

Most Points Scored in First Five Seasons - 649, Mason Crosby, 2007-'11 (625, Chip Lohmiller, Washington Redskins, 1988-'92).

Extra Points Made (Season) - 68, Mason Crosby.

Longest Field Goal - 58 yards, Mason Crosby at Minnesota Vikings, Oct. 23, 2011 (56, Mason Crosby at Philadelphia in 2010, at Atlanta in

I judge a kicker on how confident I feel when he comes out to attempt a kick. I always felt confident when seeing Longwell take the field. Crosby, not so much.

Crosby is a frustrating player. It really looked like he finally put it all together in 2011, which followed three years of sub-par kicking after a promising rookie year. He's probably going to win the job in training camp, but if he struggles again in 2013 after winning the job, he doesn't deserve an invite to training camp in 2014.

TT was at the Senior Bowl checking out place-kickers....so we've got that going for us.....which is nice.

Gunga la gunga.

I'm no Crosby lover, but to be fair, MM and the offense haven't always put him in very good position to make big kicks either. 50+ yards in Lambeau weather isn't a gimme even with great kickers.

da numbas r da numbas...

I've had the pleasure of meeting Jerry Kramer, who lives in these parts. If I run into him, I'll ask him if he could still kick for us! :-)

He and Jordy Nelson just put in a frozen yogurt place in Appleton so he must be safe.

That sounds downright cute!

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Originally posted by Herschel:
I'm no Crosby lover, but to be fair, MM and the offense haven't always put him in very good position to make big kicks either. 50+ yards in Lambeau weather isn't a gimme even with great kickers.

Considering the magnitude of the shanks that's a weak argument. Add in that god awful shanks at totally makeable ranges. He has the physical tools in spades, he just went full headcase last year.

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Originally posted by Henry:

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Originally posted by Herschel:
I'm no Crosby lover, but to be fair, MM and the offense haven't always put him in very good position to make big kicks either. 50+ yards in Lambeau weather isn't a gimme even with great kickers.

Considering the magnitude of the shanks that's a weak argument. Add in that god awful shanks at totally makeable ranges. He has the physical tools in spades, he just went full headcase last year.

Yep. An NFL kicker should do better than 63% kicking at the North Pole. Crosby was awful last season. No excuses.

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Originally posted by Herschel:
I'm no Crosby lover, but to be fair, MM and the offense haven't always put him in very good position to make big kicks either. 50+ yards in Lambeau weather isn't a gimme even with great kickers.

He has 1 job and 1 job only. Kick the ball accurately.

I don't believe he had one miss that was simply short. All of them were long enough afaik.

New article about Tavecchio in the link below:

Spirituality and Getting in the Groove

Says he studied all kickers last year (several leagues) and did an excell spreadsheet on their performances, saying 7 of Crosby's misses were from 50 yards or longer. This guy may end up kicking somewhere eventually.

The new Ryan Longwell? Does he like Applebees?

It's not just about the distance though, he has to kick it straighter also as the angle of the kick becomes more pronounced the longer it travels as well as wind has more of a chance to have an effect. Again, he wasn't that good, and he still should have made a couple of the ones he missed, but if he was truly abysmal I think they would have replaced him mid-season.

Maybe the OCD Hobbit will strap on his garters, breathe through his eyelids and take the job from Crosby.

It is a very tough call when you have a guy who has been very good have a terrible season such as Crosby's. the physical difference between kickers is so small that it is really all mental. They gave him the benifit of the doubt last year, but I would think they'd have a quick hook this year if he falters.

Maybe the Packers should get Pythagoras to kick for them?

He had a few kicks last year where if they would have set up a second set of goal posts right next to the original ones, he still would have missed those. He deserves a shot to win the job, but if he wins it and starts doing that again during the season, he needs to be cut.

Crosby was consistently bad last year at all distances beyond 30 yards.

He was 28th in the league in FG% from 30-39 yards

25th in the league in FG% from 40-49 yards

32nd in the league over 50.

Perhaps the most stunning was that he made 54% last year indoors. Granted, he was 1/5 indoors above 50 which accounted for almost half his attempts, but still it's indoors.

Overall, he made 53% of his FGs on the road and 75% at Lambeau. It wasn't kicking at home that was a problem last year.

I think we need to ask ourselves, "What would the Viking's do?"

WWTVD

Sign washed up Packers?

Time to bring back Longwell?

Pack will cut Crosby so the Vikings cut their capable kicker to pick him up.

Brilliant plan.

I believe the Italiano kid will win the kicking job this year,its time he finally made a team and he will after showing the brass just how good he is.Crosby has already shown how bad he can be and the writings on the wall for him.

Tavecchio won't win the job. Crosby is a great kicker in August. His problems don't start until the games actually mean something.

The more I read this thread the more I picture a grizzled Police Captain standing behind his desk holding a cup of coffee with his sleeves rolled up screaming, "Will somebody tell me where the hell Tavecchio and Crosby are!"

I'm not sure of the numbers, but it seems to me Crosby missed some field goals at crucial times in some of the games last year. He definitely was a head case. 

 

I don't know much about Tavecchio, but I did read he missed some crucial kicks in College. 

The Packers need a guy that can focus when the pressure is at it's highest point.

 

Crucial kicks is a subjective stance.

 

In 2012 he was 8 of 11 in the 4th quarter. No attempts in the 4th quarter when within 7 points.

 

In the Packers last 7 games (2 of them playoff games) Crosby was 11 of 15 and a perfect 6 of 6 in their last 2 reg season games and 2 playoff games.

 

His issues were early to mid-season and he seemed to settle down later in the season.

 

I thought "Garbage Can" was for old food scraps & old newspapers

For all the angst over the coaching staff not knowing when to start a backup, when to bench a starter, when to cut guys that aren't working out, etc...something should be said for them sticking with Crosby.  Everybody wanted him gone, and for good reason.  But he turned it around and the team has benefited from his return to kicking at a high level.  Pretty damn impressive to be as solid as he was on sunday.

 (a Bronx Cheer), Meh, he's been alright I guess.

If I remember right He had some key miss(es) in those first AR-less games and had at least 1 KO Out of bounds, the team psyche went down from there.

 

I don't think "everyone" wanted him gone.

You're right.  I wanted him DEAD! DEAD I sez!

 

that is the only movie Cameron Diaz was attractive in

 

 

 

Ummmm.....according to the poll on the first page, 76% of the voters wanted the Packers to KEEP Crosby.  Of course, the numbers wouldn't be so lopsided if voters wee required to furnish IDs before voting.

I  want to acknowledge Mason Crosby moving into 2nd place on the Packers all time scoring list. With a productive last 3 games and a good 2014 he could overtake Ryan Longwell by next December. The difference today is 174 points.