McCarthy, way to conservative, bitchin, moanin' +/- here

very insightful

how many times are you going to call a run on 1st down for 0-1 yards? crappy play calling

Agreed. He should call those 100 yard runs.

Your username does not amuse me.

Is a pass 5-10 yards down the field going to kill  us occasion on 1st down? Other then when we're down by 2 td's that is. McCarthy called a crap game today that was winnable. 

No you dum spear chucker, he should've called 5-10 yard passes...just like the very insightful rustydead posited.

I sense a lot of pain here.

+

Still lots of good stuff on tap tonight (pizza, beer, TV shows I like)

-

Watching the Packers with a Bob Slowik defense and a Lindy Infante offense is crappy

Pizza and beer. that's what life's all about man.

Just remember, we are 13 time NFL champions!  When the going get's tough...the tough get going.

Some bad calls by MM but a great one with the fake punt.   Oh so close to a First down.  That could have been the differnce maker.

I'm not really all that bothered by the play calling. He did run on first down a little too much, but the biggest issues were in execution. Newhouse was abysmal, and the rest of the OL were doing a very poor job of opening up holes for Lacy.

Jordy continues to step up, Jones, not so much. Nor basically anyone else.

Tolzien outplayed Geno Smith and Chad Henne today, which really isn't anything to brag about. He threw some good passes, the JPP play was a great play but killed their momentum and the second pick was brutal. #3 was a prayer anyway thanks to turnstyle Newhouse.

A little play action or hb screens would've been nice.

Pluses: Jordy and Boykin.

Crosby with the 57 yard fg.

That was good too!

Play action doesn't work all that well when the run's getting shut down.

As for the screens...that's not MM's thing. Get used to it.

Boykin played well

they never ran out of the shotgun. they have success out that formation and never ran out of it. Bad day for McCarthy and Capers.

We are witnessing a glimpse of life without a HOF QB and it isn't pretty. 

damn i didnt realize Arizona was 6-4. We're 10th in the NFC right now. ouch

the math just isnt there unless this team gets alot of stuff "fixed" in the next 6 days

really cant afford maybe one more loss

but have to approach it like the playoffs start next week

+'s

Defense looked better

Crosby hitting the long FG

Tolzien has an arm and should be a capable back up in the future and would be capable of a win here and there if gets help from everybody

Jordy

Came out in pretty good shape injury wise, IIRC?

-'s

When needing a truely big play the Giants made them Packers didn't ( tip of the cap the JPP on the pick 6 that ended any chance right there)

The Defense only looked better needed to be great today

Offense line play today, I'll assume a Newhouse effect here

JJ, thought he had a chance to make some plays

Side notes: the field crew at Chicago has A LOT OF WORK to due, who am I kidding that was not a good field to begin with.

+: Got to hang out with an old friend from Stevens Point Rugby.

-: Going to see the Vikes bitchslap this team next week.

Positives: A Sunday with Packer football is still far better than one without Packer football even when the Pack loses.

The other positive is seeing how guys play without Rodgers around to clean up any messes.  That should help the coaches and personnel evaluators get a more true evaluation at how good/bad some of these guys really are on their own.

Negatives:

Any sort of playoff type tiebreakers are disappearing fast with 3 straight NFC losses.  They probably can't lose any more NFC games the rest of the year and still make it.  The playoff run has to start this week vs. the Vikes.

There are no +'s in Green Bay, WI these days.  We currently suck on many levels.  

No positives, unless losing is what gets a high enough pick to trade up and draft Anthony Barr on defense.  He is the bookend that we need to CMIII that Perry, Neal, etc simply can never be.

Division is still there to take... but damn they need to tackle. Tramon was the only one who played consistently on D today.

Did McCarthy declare Tolzien the starter for next week in the post-game presser?

Newhouse is a major liability, hope Barlcay is back next week.

There is a guy named JaDaveon Clowny that will be available. 

The 3-4 defense needs two passing rush LB's to be dominant. We have one.  Clowny is a d-lineman, would be wasted in a 3-4.  

I know...wtf is up with him. He was never this bad at LT. I gotta believe his confidence has been destroyed by being benched.

Defense looked better? Sorry. We must have been watching different games.

McMillian is horrible. That ridiculous attempt to tackle at the GL was an epic fail.

The Giants OL has been terrible and while Neal and other collected garbage sacks, in that 1st half Manning had plenty of time.

I said this in chat, but really there is one aside from Jolly and occasionally Daniels that brings nasty to this D. And certainly no one in the secondary. I've grown tired of the "bend but don't break" mantra as well. A lot of coordinators have figured out Dom's D. And I don't see any new wrinkles/changes/adjustments happening to change that.

Newhouse was this bad before.

If Neal can play OLB so can Clowney.

It's merely symptomatic of our post-modern ennui. There are no absolutes and not to perceive our world as meaningless when it's really your own freedom you detest. I like pork.

-Brak

Don't know what to think, all 3 of these winnable.

Kid of sucks that at the same time we lose the franchise QB, our franchise D-Player had been crippled a bit and not 100%. Couple in the fact the backup QB shows spurts of success but is not consistent enough to get the job done,

Is this what it is like to be a Vikings fan throughout history?

What the hell did Jordy do? defense was horrible

So ANGRY!!!!!!!