If Bacteria is just healthy enough to go but here you have JC Tretter who played LT in college (thus a key reason MM felt he could do it), do you go with Bakh or do you keep this current OL intact?
I imagine they'll go with Bakh, but after that 1st sack Tretter played about as well as you could expect. And remember Preston Smith and that DL Tretter faced weren't exactly scrubs either.
Tretter played very well, as we know he some LT in college. Is it fair to question why Sitton was moved over instead of him vs MN? Seemed that moving sItton weakened the whole line.
In the 3 ARI losses (STL, PIT, SEA) they gave up 164, 141, and 145 yards rushing, respectively.
In the 2 impressive GBP wins since McCarthy took back the play calling (DAL, WAS) the Packers rushed for 230 and 141, respectively.
I like Tretter at LT if for no other reason than he's a better run blocker and him next to Sitton makes that a very stout side to run behind.
You keep Tretter in. He's healthy and that guy is ridiculous in the run game with his ability to get upfield. Use your max protect wisely but Tretter is your go to guy right now.
Tretter's value to this team as sixth man is huge right now. He needs to be starting at some point and Linsley has no versatility. Another year in the weight room, he can only get better.
If Bahk is healthy then he should start, he's got the most experience and Arizona has veteran pass rushers. Tretter is no rookie, but I'd rather go with Bahk in this situation. If Bakh isn't 100% healthy then Tretter needs to go...putting a LT out there that is less than 100% is asking for trouble. The plus side for Tretter is that he struggles with power rather than speed. Not to say Dwight Freeney doesn't have power moves, but he's a speed guy. Tretter would have his hands full with Freeney, but I bet McCarthy will play the Arizona D the same way they played Washington after Q1...quick passing and a lot of creativity.
Freeney doesn't play full-time though, does he? I think they bring him on a limited snap count/3rd down situations.
For the O, the biggest problems we had last time in Arizona where handling Calais Campbell and blitzes. With 80 percent of the starting OL back, that's a huge step forward to managing that problem.
The Packers were in the game last time for much of the first half. This was with the OL not playing at full strength. The wheels then fell off on offense and the defense followed. If the offense would have been able to establish any kind of momentum and ball control the defense would have been more rested and would not have folded like they did. The defense is pretty damn good and the offense will play better. This will not be a blow out like last time. Go Packers!
Grave Digger posted:If Bahk is healthy then he should start, he's got the most experience and Arizona has veteran pass rushers. Tretter is no rookie, but I'd rather go with Bahk in this situation. If Bakh isn't 100% healthy then Tretter needs to go...putting a LT out there that is less than 100% is asking for trouble. The plus side for Tretter is that he struggles with power rather than speed. Not to say Dwight Freeney doesn't have power moves, but he's a speed guy. Tretter would have his hands full with Freeney, but I bet McCarthy will play the Arizona D the same way they played Washington after Q1...quick passing and a lot of creativity.
Bahk isn't 100% and has been less than stellar this year in the first place. I personally think he's been playing hurt all year. This offense is more run orientated right now and Tretter is the better option for what they are doing. Granted, young guy playing out of position but all he's done is keep adapting. If Bahk can play I think at best you are rotating the guys for need. Give Tretter the snaps this week to keep the rhythm of the offense.
Am I more concerned about Tretter handling the pass rush of Arizona? Of course, but Arizona's pass rush isn't their strength on defense (although you wouldn't know it from the last game). I think this is definitely the game you stay run heavy and Tretter is a better fit, especially with Cobb out of the backfield.
The one big key for our offense this week is....can we get Deone Bucannon, their safety, to move out of the box? We were only able to run yesterday by forcing Washington to play coverage. The long run by Lacy was a good example. AR saw the defense had only 6 in the box & called the run. We really need to successfully pass to set up the run.
YUP, when the receivers started winning downfield, that 8th man left the box and we gashed them in the running game. Not sure we can beat those 'Zona DBs in the same manner.
Well if you listen to the talking heads, like Heath Evans this am, we have no chance or business being in this game . I like the underdog m.o. They should be pretty loose this week
i look for more 84 this week as speed can change the way this arz d plays us
**** Heath Evans. The next time he says something good about the Packers will be the first time. Total and utter hater of the Green and Gold.
I listen to the Writing Heads on this website
feels sort of like last year going into the NFCCG. Nobody giving them much of a chance.
**** it. Let's do this.
bubbleboy789 posted:feels sort of like last year going into the NFCCG. Nobody giving them much of a chance.
**** it. Let's do this.
They have no chance!
GO PACK! SHOCK THE WORLD!
cuqui posted:**** Heath Evans. The next time he says something good about the Packers will be the first time. Total and utter hater of the Green and Gold.
I can't stand that POS. I heard him this morning too. F him. He sucked as a player and he sucks as an analyst. God I hate that guy.
"if you listen to the talking heads, like Heath Evans this am, we have no chance or business being in this game"
Really Heath? Who should be there? Washington? Yeah, they really deserve to be there. Seattle? Oh yes, they definitely deserve to be there. Or maybe your Saints deserve to be there.
Looking at Arizona message boards, they are all ready talking about who they want to play in the NFCC. According to them, we have no chance of beating them.
Excellent.
I've seen this movie before. It frequently ends well for the underdog.
Lambeau Lobo posted:Looking at Arizona message boards, they are all ready talking about who they want to play in the NFCC. According to them, we have no chance of beating them.
Excellent.
I've seen this movie before. It frequently ends well for the underdog.
My guess is that fans on message boards will have nothing to do about the outcome of this or any game.
That sucks. None of those suckers could cover me one on one.
Lotta people with walkers could cover you Goalline.
It's true, Rat, but none are Cardinals fans.
Goalline covers PAWG's
Goldie posted:Holy crap.......the Chicago Cardinals??? Wow.
Don't forget that little stop over they spent in St. Louis ('60-'87).
Green Bay - The following is a summary of Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy's Monday press conference:
(On schedule this week) We're still working through the transportation. Goal was to go out Thursday but we will not be able to do that. We'll go out on Friday. There's things going on in the city and things like that. There's always stress points when you're planning. I usually have two plans this time of year.
(On leaving early) The stress points in your travel and preparation are important. You go through the times we left earlier, the transportation in Seattle was perfect. Regardless of the outcome, we’ve hit the target with preparation. San Francisco, I thought that was excellent. Stanford was a good setup. Denver was stressful. Those are the things you look at. We went to Scottsdale Community College, which was a good setup. It’s about flow.
(On schedule) Give them two days to get their bodies back. We'll do strength and conditioning and then install. We'll have meetings, but no practice. We'll have an abbreviated Wednesday and Thursday and then Friday will be a regular Saturday
(Does facing Cardinals again benefit preparations) Definitely. There's a lot of stuff we left in the last game that we didn't use. Watching the Seattle game and watching our game, identifying some things. Frankly from the offensive standpoint, we had a lot of offense left from the first game we didn’t get to. There’s a silver lining in that.
(On getting a feel on team) I think fact of the matter both teams feel the preparation against one another is relatively fresh. I don't know if that's an advantage or not.
(On Bakhtiari) I'm hopeful. We'll see on Wednesday.
(On Jordy Nelson being around) We've found it's important to have guys around. We feel the care they can get here, that it's the best they can get. Jordy is taking it to another level. It's like he's in two-a-days. Frankly, he looks like he can play. You'd never know that he was injured.
(On adrenaline rush) Today's a game plan day. Outside of the game, this is my favorite day. Love the meetings, the film. Aaron has been more a part of the meetings now. That's been great. Once you put the head coach in it takes another hour. Then you add the quarterback and it's two hours.
(On having QB in the game planning) He has a great mind. He can add a lot. It can be dry in there. You don't need to re-create the wheel every week. But it's good to go in there and hash if off.
(On getting along with Rodgers) I don't see it the way it's perceived. I enjoy our relationship.
(On one game in confidence boost) I wouldn't say a weight was lifted. The plane ride was fun. Playoff games are tough, especially on the road. The number of Packers fans there at the end, that part was awesome. It's a lot of fun. Playoffs are definitely a lot of fun. Winning is hard in this league. But it's a great time. There were fans at the airport. The equipment guys had the cars running. It's appreciated.
(On whether the game felt different) I think you could see it coming when the schedule came out that the third quarter of the schedule was going to be tough. Those are good experiences. The fact of the matter is that all three phases did well.
(On proving something) We talk about the underdog thing. That's not us. I get what people are saying. I don't care about that. We're going out there to win.(On pass rushers) I love our big guys. The game ball winners for Washington was the o-line and the d-line. Talk about the pass-rush unit. I thought our line set the tempo for the game. Our ability to have multiple pass-rushers is big for us.
(On rhythm of offense) West Coast is about rhythm. We build the plans similar each week. The West Coast offense is based around timing. You have action passes and the drop-back game. The ability to run the football. It’s all about playing on time. I don’t know what the statistics show, but I thought our first- and second-down production was up. Our offense is conditioned to play at a tempo. We look at it as baseball. The more attempts we get with our offense, especially with Aaron Rodgers, the better chance we have of scoring more points..
Amazing how winning cures/heals what was ailing. Let's hope they can keep it going in AZ. Good stuff.
Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers' Monday press conference:
(Opening statement) The thing I was pleased with is how we started. The way they've started, they've been very good at putting points on the board. You know the crowd is going to be in the game. We had some adversity there. That was really big keeping them out of the end zone. Anytime a team has first and goal at the 1 and you force a field goal you feel good. We were concerned about singling up their receivers, we knew were going to have to get a four-man rush. The way we played in the red zone was big. You hate to give up that drive at the start of the third quarter. They had the quarterback draw. That was a good play call. We over-shifted. The sack yardage and getting them into third and long allowed us to play a softer zone. They made some plays, some runs popped out of there. Our No. 1 goal was limit their big plays. We know this week we're going to have an even bigger challenge. They mix the run and the pass. Probably as good of a receiving corps as there is in the NFL. We'll go to work on them tomorrow and hopefully we'll be up to the task.
(On learning from last meeting) You just have to make your plays when you have them. We made some plays. The Mike Daniels interception. We missed some. The ball is in the air, we have to come up with them. We had a couple yesterday. We have to turn those plays into turnovers. Nothing changes more than a takeaway.
(On confidence from goal-line stand) Neither breeds success like success. We have a lot of confidence in our goal-line defense.
(On what you get from Arizona) I don't know how much they'll change. There's an advantage to having a couple of weeks there. I'm sure they'll have some new wrinkles. You might get some more with that amount of time. You're not going to get drastic changes. They're still going to do what they are successful at.
(On CBs) Gunter did a nice job. Meech [Goodson] did a nice job. We were in a lot of six DBs, probably over 40 snaps. That was due to more of a match-up game. They have very good receiving running backs and they have that TE in there, so you're always concerned about your match-up with him. I thought our guys did a nice job of responding when Quinten went down.
(On pressure) Our guys did a nice job upfront, mixing games. We covered more than we pressured. Sometimes the QB has to hold the ball if it's not clear. Sometimes when it's man-to-man it's clear right away. We saw that a lot from him. It really helps if you get both units working together, the coverage unit and the four-man rush.
cuqui posted:(On Jordy Nelson being around) We've found it's important to have guys around. We feel the care they can get here, that it's the best they can get. Jordy is taking it to another level. It's like he's in two-a-days. Frankly, he looks like he can play. You'd never know that he was injured.
Awesome.
Boris posted:People don't get it....very few people here get it.
Are you ready? 'Cause it's cumin...
I prefer coriander, but both are good for tacos.
RatPack posted:Lotta people with walkers could cover you Goalline.
Richard Rodgers and James Jones probably too, but Jones will body them out of the way for a catch.
"We talk about the underdog thing. That's not us."
We're nobody's underdog.
Seen some Cardinal message boards. Some Cardinal fans think this game is going to be very easy for them.
Most have the Cardinals winning of course by 3-14 points.
I loved one Cardinal fans comment....
"They think they're the big dog. Let's show them they're not the big dog. 55-10 Cardinals"
Haha Made me laugh
Nothing wrong with Joe Whitt putting Heath Evans quotes on the lockerroom bulletin board
The Cards won by 30 a few weeks ago. Why wouldn't their fans be confident?
Some are acting the fool, thinking they're going to torch us again. I can understand being confident to win but saying another beatdown is coming sounds like false bravado. I think most Cardinal fans are slightly worried. They should be. If MVP Aaron Rodgers or Jan 2011 Rodgers shows up, the Cardinals might win but they aren't running away with this one.
cuqui posted:Green Bay - The following is a summary of Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy's Monday press conference:
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(Does facing Cardinals again benefit preparations) Definitely. There's a lot of stuff we left in the last game that we didn't use. Watching the Seattle game and watching our game, identifying some things. Frankly from the offensive standpoint, we had a lot of offense left from the first game we didn’t get to. There’s a silver lining in that.
McCarthy, you old sandbagging sonofabitch.
There were at least 8 or 9 plays that didn't get run cause Rodgers was on his ass.
one of my all-time favorite McCarthy moments was after the New England game in 2010: "We came here to win. We're nobody's underdog."
Hoping he's able to impress upon the team that same attitude this week.
Nothing to lose, nothing to fear. Our best beats their best, IMO.
Look Bad Bob: A ho-hum useless Ted Thompson scrub:
#Packers CB LaDarius Gunter played 9 snaps all year, per @PFF. He played 31 at Washington. Allowed 1 catch for 15 yards with defended pass.
Cardinals favored by 7 to 8 over Packers, who are biggest underdog next weekend.
Really hope Cards players buy into this ^^^
