@Packy posted:Paris Johnson👍
Bears have #9
If they draft any player other than an O-Lineman they are screwed.
I can't imagine them letting Paris Johnson drop if he's there at #9
They're going to trade back up to #8 and draft Mitch Trubisky.
@PackLandVA posted:Their 1st packaged with one of the 2nds could move them up to #6 or #7 if the Raiders or Seattle were looking to trade out.
Conversely, if Seattle wants to trade up and make a splash with three #1s, the Packers could get maybe #37, #52, #175 and a #4 next year.
@Boris posted:Bears have #9
If they draft any player other than an O-Lineman they are screwed.
I can't imagine them letting Paris Johnson drop if he's there at #9
It’s the Bears, remember?
It's Bullshit Week, but latest scuttlebutt is Darnell Washington's team visits were heavily for follow ups on his medicals and numerous teams have supposedly dropped him on their boards.
A few weeks back it was reported that Sean Tucker (RB Syracuse) has a heart condition discovered at Indy during medicals that may leave him undrafted.
If GB stays at 13 I think it will be OLB or OT.
I wouldn’t hate seeing a trade back towards the end of R1 and picking up another 2 in this deep draft.
Has anyone heard how many players with a first round grade in this class?
13?? Less?!?!!
I've read 13-15, coincidentally.
Top tier is thin but the second tier is supposed to be pretty big, into RD3.
@DH13 posted:I've read 13-15, coincidentally.
Top tier is thin but the second tier is supposed to be pretty big, into RD3.
Peter Bukowski pointed out how big it is - the swap of firsts - because now that's more value for the Packers to acquire when trading down.
If it's true the "meat" of this draft is the second tier, they're probably trading down. Maybe get another "Jaire" deal. Or drop a couple spots and pickup a third, 2nd rounder.
More picks in the 2nd tier means more chances to score on difference makers.
My no-trade mock for the day. It's hard to trade up in the PFF simulator (seeing who is on the board), so it's not as realistic as I would like.
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The guy I like for backup/hedge bet QB, Tanner McKee, reportedly had the same score Bryce Young did on the S2.
I don't know about McKee...I think I'd rather have a more athletic QB than a pure pocket passer backing up Love. A guy with his size should have a cannon for an arm, but it doesn't seem like he does.
He had a 2:1 TD-to-Interception ratio, and his best number of TD's was only 15. Was that a putrid offense at Stanford with no weapons or protection? Maybe...
My big draft crush this year is Jack Campbell. Dude is a run stopping beast, yet he can run and cover a bit. Put him alongside Quay and we are set for a decade. Year 1 he can destroy guys on special teams.
It has taken decades. But that might be the first smart thing you have posted.
@Goalline posted:My big draft crush this year is Jack Campbell. Dude is a run stopping beast, yet he can run and cover a bit. Put him alongside Quay and we are set for a decade. Year 1 he can destroy guys on special teams.
We'd have to take him in the 2nd round, if he even lasts that long on the board.
@Packmeister posted:I don't know about McKee...I think I'd rather have a more athletic QB than a pure pocket passer backing up Love. A guy with his size should have a cannon for an arm, but it doesn't seem like he does.
He had a 2:1 TD-to-Interception ratio, and his best number of TD's was only 15. Was that a putrid offense at Stanford with no weapons or protection? Maybe...
The Stanford team had a lot of injuries and went to absolute crap around him. I think he’s mobile enough to be a solid QB.
@Goalline posted:My big draft crush this year is Jack Campbell. Dude is a run stopping beast, yet he can run and cover a bit. Put him alongside Quay and we are set for a decade. Year 1 he can destroy guys on special teams.
Until last year that may have required a drug test but if Gutekunst has a three-year rebuilding plan that extra #2 as a luxury pick wouldn’t be the worst thing.. D. Campbell regressed last year, as well.
My 2nd round luxury pick has been DJ Turner from Michigan at corner. They may well not be very good this year overall, so why not go for just good players with some picks.
@Iowacheese posted:It has taken decades. But that might be the first smart thing you have posted.
And yet he still had that achievement before Iowacheese did.
Very unlikely but should C.J. Stroud drop like some are predicting and is there at #13, do you take him?
Just saw a mock of Stroud going #11 after his test score was released.
@Packy posted:Very unlikely but should C.J. Stroud drop like some are predicting and is there at #13, do you take him?
No...hope and pray someone desperately wants him...
Someone will. QB's a really hard to resist for teams that don't have them.
@Goalline posted:My big draft crush this year is Jack Campbell. Dude is a run stopping beast, yet he can run and cover a bit. Put him alongside Quay and we are set for a decade. Year 1 he can destroy guys on special teams.
@Iowacheese posted:It has taken decades. But that might be the first smart thing you have posted.
Whew!! 😅- Does that get both of us out of the Abdul "butcher" Hodge debacle?
Campbell might even be greater then “The Butcher”
our First 4 picks are slotted nicely to be Hawks. Time to break away from GA dumdums
@Iowacheese posted:Campbell might even be greater then “The Butcher”
our First 4 picks are slotted nicely to be Hawks. Time to break away from GA dumdums
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! 
@Packy posted:Just saw a mock of Stroud going #11 after his test score was released.
The S2 seems to be a better way of judging a player's ability to read and react to what they see. Stroud supposedly had a great score, which is why he released it as a counter to his negatives. The S2 is probably just the first of technological analysis programs that players will have to undergo in the future.
I can see teams starting to use the S2 to monitor their QB's processing speed and reaction time as they age. In his prime, Rodgers would have been off the charts on his S2, but I also think it would have dropped in the past couple of years.
I'm pretty sure he bombed it if his draft stock is falling, no?
According to McGinn, Strouds S2 score was the lowest among QBs. Like in the teens while Bryants was 96%+-.
Oooooo. A new non racially biased wonderlic? Keep telling….
Testing at an 18 makes me wonder if he didn't just screw up on filling in the bubbles. All it takes is accidentally skipping a line and you're screwed.
I listened to his response interview. He didn’t sound like Brent Fullwood.
That said, there are constants in life. Ohio St QBs suck in the NFL and the Bears suck.
Doesn't matter how he sounds, it's not an intelligence test. It's a read and react test that gages your ability to process stimuli and act with speed.
From an article about the S2:
"How does the S2 Cognition test work? The test, which replaced the Wonderlic, has nine different segments, all of which are graded separately (sort of like the SAT). The measurements used in each section include a quarterback's ability to track multiple objects, make complex decisions, and filter through if/then scenarios with different defensive scenarios -- with an ability to improvise. The test takes 45 minutes and is run through a gaming laptop, ultimately measuring a players' ability to quickly dissect information that appears on the screen in front of them."
The company that runs the S2 said this year's scores that were leaked to the media were not all accurate, that a couple were early scores and without context. Which ones that referred to he didn't say. I could see scores affected either way if a guy did or didn't play a lot of video games. But, last year Brock Purdy's score was super high, and we know that he turned out pretty well.