@lovepack posted:Maybe Hafley has successfully whispered to Stokes. I hope so. Still young. Still has potential.
I think that is exactly what happened. Stokes missed what a whole season and good chunk of another to injury? He was pretty darn good at the beginning so maybe he found out he can still play.
Stokes is Kevin King with less lateral agility and man coverage skills, but a bit better straight line speed. Injuries have robbed them of what they could have been, though Stokes may still be okay if he can stay healthy going forward.
BPA at a position of need with pick #32.
Another plus of the Rams spanking the Vikings: Packers move up to #23, though the Vikings are now at #24.
@Herschel posted:Another plus of the Rams spanking the Vikings: Packers move up to #23, though the Vikings are now at #24.
I thought I saw a post that said Minnesota only has 4 draft picks, in 2025, due to all the maneuvering they did, last draft, to get McCarthy. I think their GM, Kwesi, will sell their soul, once again, to get more picks. And when Kwesi finds out that the vikings are at 24 while the Packers are at 23, in the draft, he might move up, just so he can be above the Packers, when the vikings select. That would be a Minnesota move, for sure.
After the weekend I think the Pack picks 23rd and the queens 24th in this years draft. Also read MN only has 3 picks in this draft, their 1st and two 5ths, plus maybe a compensatory pick.
Current Vikings 2025 Draft Picks:
Round 1
Round 5
Round 5 (from Browns via Za'Darius Smith trade)
The team traded it's second, third and fourth round picks in the 2024 NFL Draft in exchange for the pick the team used to take OLB Dallas Turner during the 2024 NFL Draft.
The team's sixth and seventh round picks were traded to the Cleveland Browns in the Smith deal which took place in May of 2023.
The Vikings are expected to be awarded one compensatory pick according to this NFL.com article based on free agency comings and goings this past year.
https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-...tions-for-every-team
At least there won't be many Viking fans at Lambeau cheering all their draft picks. 
If Flores gets a head coaching job will the Vikings get a draft pick for that?
I don't think they would. The only way to get a draft pick for a coach would be agreeing to a lateral move.
Im not talking from the other team Iâm talking about from the league for developing minorities for head coaching jobs
I think they would. Someone pointed out that SF had a good thing going with their last 3? DC's who were promoted and SF got I think RD3 picks for them. Which really came in handy when they were trading away all their higher picks for FA's and moving up for Trey Lance.
Well traditionally they would under the scenario Iâve pointed out, but will they seeing heâs already been a head coach? And will the Packers get a pick if Saleh gets a HC job this year?
Packers have pick #23
Thanks, Goldiboris. 
My goodness, you really gotta watch your step around here.
We all laughed at the Vicklings not having any picks last year but I would be happy to trade Morgan, Monk and Hopper and for VanGinkle Greenard and A Jones. It got them 14 wins and a whisker for Home field. But the Vicklings are gonna Vickling
@Packiderm posted:We all laughed at the Vicklings not having any picks last year but I would be happy to trade Morgan, Monk and Hopper and for VanGinkle Greenard and A Jones. It got them 14 wins and a whisker for Home field. But the Vicklings are gonna Vickling
And they didn't give up as much for McCarthy (1, 4, 5) as they did for Dallas Turner (1,5 and a 3,4 this year)
Draft picks from the Sam Seale West Coast collection. TT drafted a lot heavier from the west than Gutekunst.
2024 - 4 (Morgan/first, Lloyd/third, Williams/fourth, Oladapo/fifth)
2023 - 1 (Musgrave/second)
2022 - 2 (Rhyan/third, Doubs/fourth)
2021 - 0
2020 - 2 (Love/first, Hanson/sixth)
2019 - 0
2018 - 2 (Madison/fifth, Looney/seventh)
Under TT:
2017 - 3
2016 - 4
2015 - 3
2014 - 3
2013 - 3
2012 - 1
2011- 4
kidding, not kidding...trade out of the first. gutie's record is not stellar.
Trade his first for a top tier FA?
How is it possible to trade for a free agent? 
@YooperPackfan posted:If Flores gets a head coaching job will the Vikings get a draft pick for that?
Don't give the vikings GM any ideas....
@YooperPackfan posted:How is it possible to trade for a free agent?
Restricted FA. But also my posting too early in the morning.
Or someone that is going to be a F A next season and you can work out a long term deal before the trade. With permission of the players current team that is.
@pkr_north posted:kidding, not kidding...trade out of the first. gutie's record is not stellar.
The Bills and Bears have two seconds, but the Bills are #24 and their own, so really late, and the Bears need to keep their picks. Plus, Iâm not sure Gutekunst would want to not have a Day 1 pick with the draft in Green Bay.
For those wanting a new C for the Packers, 2025 isn't a great draft for C when you consider the metrics the Packers value...height and weight namely.
In fact the last time they drafted a C, they opted for a converted LT in Josh Myers because he was 6'5" and Creed Humphrey, a superior C prospect, was only 6'4".
Of the top pure centers, there is only one that fits the Packers desired height metric...USC's Jonah Monheim.
The best pure C is UGA's Jared Wilson...but at 6'3" (perhaps even 6'2" and 1/2) he won't fit the Packers measurables and will likely be off their board. Other names to consider, but all 6'4" or less, Ohio State's Seth McLaughlin, BC's Drew Kendall and Texas' Jake Majors.
But then you risk putting a rookie C out there playing the toughest position outside of LT on the line.
My guess would be the Packers will re-sign Myers and perhaps draft someone they can develop...a versatile player like Zach Tom. Of course, Tom being like another Jenkins, could possibly be in the conversation for C if the Packers feel confident enough in Jordan Morgan at RT.
Packers type prospect out of Colorado State...
One of the million online post game reviews said there was a rumor LAR could trade Kupp this offseason and look for someone in the draft to pair with Nacua.
Sounds like a bunch of bananas but LAR has not been shy about dealing players in or out.
@Chongo posted:For those wanting a new C for the Packers, 2025 isn't a great draft for C when you consider the metrics the Packers value...height and weight namely.
In fact the last time they drafted a C, they opted for a converted LT in Josh Myers because he was 6'5" and Creed Humphrey, a superior C prospect, was only 6'4".
Of the top pure centers, there is only one that fits the Packers desired height metric...USC's Jonah Monheim.
The best pure C is UGA's Jared Wilson...but at 6'3" (perhaps even 6'2" and 1/2) he won't fit the Packers measurables and will likely be off their board. Other names to consider, but all 6'4" or less, Ohio State's Seth McLaughlin, BC's Drew Kendall and Texas' Jake Majors.
But then you risk putting a rookie C out there playing the toughest position outside of LT on the line.
My guess would be the Packers will re-sign Myers and perhaps draft someone they can develop...a versatile player like Zach Tom. Of course, Tom being like another Jenkins, could possibly be in the conversation for C if the Packers feel confident enough in Jordan Morgan at RT.
Grey Zabel is also projected by some as a Center candidate. Itâll be interesting to see if he gets snaps there at the Senior Bowl.
Monheim also has tackle experience.
I don't advocate very often in moving a guy that excels at one position to fill another position, but I also don't think the Packers should try to fill a "square peg problem" with a "round hole solution". If they can't upgrade the Center position via the draft, a trade, or FA, then maybe the option is to move Tom or Jenkins to Center and utilize this past year's First Round pick.
I wonder if Gutekunst might break his trends for Hafleyâs defense. One thing TT seemed to do was draft his type of guys and his priorities, regardless of the scheme, and Gutekunst seems to have been cut from the same cloth at times. He broke the 15-year trend of ignoring ILB when finally drafting Walker and Cooper. Maybe heâll finally go for a bendy edge rusher.
What do the Packers need prior to next season?
CB: 2. Iâd argue they need at least two who can play pretty much right away. None of the guys they ended the season with should be counted as starters. Valentineâs a decent backup, the rest can fight it out on special teams.
Edge: 2. I think two as Enagbare and Cox are free agents after next season and Van Ness may even end up inside. Itâs also probably the strongest position in this draft, so double dip.
WR: 1-2. One might be enough if heâs good next year, but this isnât a strong receiver class so may need to spend on a good veteran.
OL: 1-2. If Morgan is healthy they may be able to shuffle a decent starting lineup, but their depth was shown to be highly suspect and Walker and Tom have contracts expiring after next season. Tomâs going to want to be paid like a tackle.
LB: 1. Could really use a staring-caliber player. Doesnât need to be a big-money or super high pick, but a guy who will be able to not be a liability.
DT: 0-2. Slaton is a free agent and Clark isnât getting any younger. Maybe Van Ness moves inside some but they donât really have a short yardage hog if Slaton leaves.
S: 1. Depth guy and special teams. Probably just re-sign Zayne Anderson on RFA deal.
RB: 1. This is probably the other contender for stronger position in the draft so take advantage. Plus, if Wayne/Larry are familiar with pop culture references, it would be a lot of fun if they got QUINSHOOOOOOOOOOON JUDKINS!
QB: 0. Weak draft class and Willis seems like a good backup. Clifford is fine as #3.
TE: 0-1. Maybe Musgrave insurance and depth if one they really like falls, but Sims is a decent depth piece and special teams guy.
Specialists: Re-sign McManus and for the love if gods get a good long snapper. Probably donât spend a draft pick.
