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Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:
Originally Posted by slowmo:

From Calvin Johnson's twitter:

Difference between me and Dez? You'd never see me pout like a little baby

 

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call me crazy, but I don't think that's Calvin Johnson's actual twitter account.

The username being "cockycalvin" tipped me off, personally

 

 

Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:

       
Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:
Originally Posted by The Ref fka Blair Kiel:
Originally Posted by The Ref fka Blair Kiel:
Did he complete possession on the catch or whatever that rule is?
Little love for Keel please?
I think GB got very fortunate on that call reversal...but I'm probably not understanding the letter of the law here.
I think that's the letter of the law, but I think 100/100 people would see that play and think it was a catch.

       

I worked with a crew that helped clean Lambeau after the game yesterday and heading home after the local postgame shows were done, I hated that after a big cool win like that, I couldn't even listen to the national sports radio and enjoy it.

Some guy with a skip-like take, blathering away for hours about how 'golly gee, that was definitely a catch.' Barf.

I know this is easy to say after the fact, but at the time I was sure it was a bobble and not in control all the way to the ground.

Now I didn't know if the refs would call it that way, but that's how I saw it. He wasn't in control when it hit the ground. Heaven knows we've been bitten by that rule several times over the year, and whatever the "eye test" said, I've come to understand and accept that rule.

When that earlier Packer catch that was confirmed (Cobb or Adams maybe?), I thought that ball touched the ground a tiny bit, so I was totally ready for that to be overturned, so it's not a matter of bias.

And as others have said we still had time afterwards, so it's not like that catch was as huge as everyone makes it now.

And I'm totally clueless as to how the Cowboys can pout with a straight face, after their Detroit game call.
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I had NFL Network on last night to rewatch the game.  Turn it on this morning, continual non stop "catch" and Dallas ball washing.  

 

I don't know how anyone can watch that ****.  I'd rather watch a marathon of Mormon purity slut midgets on TLC.

The decision on that call, and interpretation of what a "catch" for NFL is was as consistent yesterday as it has been the last 4+ years since the Calvin Johnson non-catch.

Any talking head with dissent apparently hasn't watched NFL football the past 4 years, since "process" was implemented.

Great almost catch by Dallas, reasonable defense by Shields, but serious nad props to the Ref and NY making the right call.

Lastly, heard on ESPN I think this morning, that the "process" rule is THE barometer of what defines a catch. Without it, almost any catch near the ground needs reviewed.

Sucks for Dallas, but the rule isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Originally Posted by PackerPatrick:
Originally Posted by Henry:

I had NFL Network on last night to rewatch the game.  Turn it on this morning, continual non stop "catch" and Dallas ball washing.  

 

I don't know how anyone can watch that ****.  I'd rather watch a marathon of Mormon purity slut midgets on TLC.

I agree. It spoils a great game. By the way, what channel is that marathon on?

TLC dumdum.

At the gym this morning, ESPN is on, closed captioning.   Mike and Mike bring on Cris Carter.

 

Greenburg is giddy in anticipation that Carter will be livid about the call, agree with him that it's a catch and they can continue to beat this into the ground all morning.  Greenburg sets it up, how the angles were clear, how the steps were clear, and that Carter "a guy that knew what a catch was better than anyone" would tell us what he thought about this controversial call.

 

Carter - "it was not a catch, it was clear, it's an easy call". 

 

Greenburg was so sad.  They spent another 10 minutes on it, and Carter every time was "It was not a catch, it's a great rule, don't let the ball get dislodged and you catch it".

 

Hilarious. 

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If that catch stood, is there any doubt Arod would have marched the Packers down the field to score with 4 minutes on the clock?  Arod owned the 2nd half.  Hell, he moved the team down the field in field goal range just trying to kill the clock to end the game.  

Originally Posted by Pakrz:

TLC dumdum.

Oh.  Probably like PackerPatrick, I too thought the marathon was actually "Mormon Purity Slut Midgets on TLC"  As is, the show was Mormon Purity Slut Midgets physically on top of the poster formerly known as thelittlecheese.

 

But, thanks for clearing that up.  

 

I no longer want to watch.  

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No doubt at all and it would have been more exciting.  He (they) were playing very well. Today there would be no controversy and bickering about the refs. It would have been wall to wall Arron and GB

Heard a great point about this "Calvin Johnson Rule".  If they rule Dez's catch a catch b/c he got two feet down, can you imagine the rise in fumbles?  It's a common play when you see a receiver go up and catch it, get two feet down, then get blown up and drop the ball.  If they change this rule to pander to Dez and Cowboys, this would benefit the defense in the rise of fumbles.  I get it's a dumb rule, one that is hard to understand, frustrating to apply and that doesn't pass the eye test or the "50 drunks in a bar" test, but what is the alternative?  

Originally Posted by CAPackFan95:
Originally Posted by Pakrz:

TLC dumdum.

Oh.  Probably like PackerPatrick, I too thought the marathon was actually "Mormon Purity Slut Midgets on TLC"  As is, the show was Mormon Purity Slut Midgets physically on top of the poster formerly known as thelittlecheese.

 

But, thanks for clearing that up.  

 

I no longer want to watch.  

 

I do miss that guy.

Originally Posted by Pakrz:

If that catch stood, is there any doubt Arod would have marched the Packers down the field to score with 4 minutes on the clock?  Arod owned the 2nd half.  Hell, he moved the team down the field in field goal range just trying to kill the clock to end the game.  

 

Agreed.  If the punditry wants to create what ifs they better look at the whole scope.  

and I've heard now,  "3 feet down",  what the h*ll is that??  three feet??  Heard the coach of Dallas say it, and Trent the "know it all X QB" just said it too.  What's that all about??  3 feet down?  I'm hoping they're not insinuating the "middle" item is a leg.    JMHO

in all honesty, even tho the jumbotron video told me they'd reverse the catch, I actually wanted it to stand too as I was quite confident we'd score a game winning FG with 3:30 minutes of game left.  but you don't always get what you want and I'll take it...  and dallass can still suck it!

Catch, not a catch? Lots of talk all over the air-waves (TV, radio), here and elsewhere on the internets. 

 

Consensus seems to be landing on that the call (reversal) was right by the rule of the law, but with the caveat that the rule is flawed. I wonder, how would you re-write this?

 

Rule 8 Forward Pass, Backward Pass, Fumble

 

 

 

 

 

Florio with the dumbest headline I think I've ever read award on PFT:

 

"Dez Bryant rule” doesn’t mesh with expectations of players, fans"

 

Why not just go with "Losing a football game doesn’t mesh with expectations of players, fans"

 

Florio is a dumbass

 

I think Tony Dungy said it best this am on Patrick's show. When asked by Dan if he thought it was a catch, something to the effect of, "Not at all. I was watching the game with my son and both of us knew instantly that's not going to be ruled a catch. You gotta' hold onto the ball Dan. The NFL preaches that every pre-season. If you are going to the ground after a catch hold onto it. We used to tell our receivers. In those instances. Don't stretch. Don't do anything but hold onto the football. Period."

 

Dan tried to press Tony on if he thought it was a catch. "Doesn't matter what I think. It's how the refs are going to call it. Everyone knows the rule. They called it right"

 

 

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Originally Posted by Ubetcha:

It's probably been said elsewhere, but kudos to MM for taking the shot at the challenge risking the TO so late. 

I was shaking my head when he threw the flag. I've questioned MM's play challenging acumen over the years, but that all stopped after yesterday.

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

 

Dan tried to press Tony on if he thought it was a catch. "Doesn't matter what I think. It's how the refs are going to call it. Everyone knows the rule. They called it right"

 

 

Interesting that it came from Dungy, who was right in the thick of a similar controversy during the 1999 postseason. 

That play was referenced by Blandino prior to Dungy talking to Patrick when Patrick asked Blandino if the current rules go way too far regarding what constitutes a catch. Blandino went back to this catch and said "if you remember, there used to be a time where if any portion of the football touched the ground it was incomplete". We've since changed it to say a portion of the ball can touch the ground as long as it's being controlled by the receiver"

 

It's funny. Last week everyone was going haywire because the refs got everything wrong. This week everyone is going haywire after the refs got everything right. 

Originally Posted by Ubetcha:

It's probably been said elsewhere, but kudos to MM for taking the shot at the challenge risking the TO so late. 

"I was due." - Mike McCarthy

 

Yeah he was.

Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

 

It's funny. Last week everyone was going haywire because the refs got everything wrong. This week everyone is going haywire after the refs got everything right. 

+1

Only successful challenge MM had all year and he picked the right time to get it. Maintaining complete control in that situation appears very reasonable and I'm not sure why the rule is viewed as flawed. The ground shouldn't be able to assist in possession and that's what the rule is trying to prevent.

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Oh.  Probably like PackerPatrick, I too thought the marathon was actually "Mormon Purity Slut Midgets on TLC"  As is, the show was Mormon Purity Slut Midgets physically on top of the poster formerly known as thelittlecheese.
I thought they were dancing on the grave of the woman who burned down Andre Rison's home.
Originally Posted by Fond Du Arrigo:
Originally Posted by Ubetcha:

It's probably been said elsewhere, but kudos to MM for taking the shot at the challenge risking the TO so late. 

I was shaking my head when he threw the flag. I've questioned MM's play challenging acumen over the years, but that all stopped after yesterday.

Me too.  I was thinking that was a stupid move because we'd need that TO a few minutes later in the game.  The thought that Dez didn't catch that ball never crossed my mind.

Media is screaming about it because it is controversial and they know that gets more ratings.  We all know this.

 

Ironic how the "Empire" trailer they kept shoving down our throats had a quote in it:

"It's controversy, it's how we make a lotta money".

 

No different than Skippy, just not as flagrantly dull minded.

Me too.  I was thinking that was a stupid move because we'd need that TO a few minutes later in the game.  The thought that Dez didn't catch that ball never crossed my mind.

Didn't cross mine either because we weren't immediately shown the angle on tv where you could see the tip of the ball hit the ground and the ball jostling.  There is only one angle that clearly shows that and they didn't show it until about the 5th or 6th shot.

Originally Posted by Ghost of Lambeau:

I got tired of Aikman after the game say something like "everyone else thinks it is a catch except the refs.  If the call goes the cowboys way they win the game".  Ok - whatever - but he kept repeating it as if somehow repeating it enough would change it.  For the record, I told Mrs. GOL that it wasn't a catch.  She argued and said it was.  I tried (in vain) to explain the rule.  Then she left the room before MM was shown with the red flag in his hand and he challenged it.  So I told her the MM agreed with me and challenged the call.  My wife said that it was wasted effort - it was a catch.  Then the ref came back and overturned the call.  My wife was really surprised.  I think the real victory was that my wife was wrong.  Just sayin ..........

Savor every victory, (just don't let her see you smile).

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