@DH13 posted:We're 6 games into Hafley's NFL DC career. Let's see how the rest of the season unfolds before worrying about losing him.
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and it’s OK to enjoy the moment and be excited. This kind of a defensive effort has not been seen in these parts for a decade, plus
If you listen to him in any of his press conferences. Dude is squared away.
I enjoy seeing an attacking. Unpredictable. TO creating unit.
Absolutely. But talk of him leaving because he's that good is kind of nuts.
@Iowacheese posted:7
and it’s OK to enjoy the moment and be excited. This kind of a defensive effort has not been seen in these parts for a decade, plus
If you listen to him in any of his press conferences. Dude is squared away.
I enjoy seeing an attacking. Unpredictable. TO creating unit.
I think that we are so conditioned over the years to expect a defensive let down which is why it is hard to enjoy the moment. and I fully admit that is me.
But, now I am coming around and this time it feels different on the defensive side of the ball. You are so right this DC has his crap together and can flat out coach some defense. I am do damn excited to see what the defense will look like as the players get used to it more.
Special teams still suck???
@DocBenni posted:Hafley has made adjustments in both players and schemes, but I'm still concerned that we can't get enough pressure with only the front 4. We have no real "game wrecker" in that group.
Watching the game vs the Texans, I was struck by the thought that what we are seeing from the Hafley/Packers defense is another version of a "bend but don't break".
Of course, the biggest difference is scoring defense.
Hafley's unit shuts 'em down in the 2nd half.
Barry's defense... didn't.
I'd rather think of it as a "bend, but then come up with a big play" style defense. One thing that Halley is doing is "marrying" his blitzes with appropriate coverage. When blitzing / stunting he has his CBs play up to take away the "hot" read for the QB. How many times did we see Barry blitz, but have his CBs 8-10 yards off the LOS which gave the WR an easy slant. By playing press coverage you are leaving yourself more susceptible to the "go" route, but you are betting that your blitz will not give the QB enough time for that to develop.
i don't even know that this is any version of BBDB. That idea was taken to 11 by Barry, "have to stop the big plays" and wait for offense to trip. Hafley's D isn't bending any more than any other D that gives up yards and points. They all do. But he's hitting the kill switch with pressures and run blitzes at a per-series rate instead of at a per-quarter rate. He's trying to FORCE the error with greater frequency than just waiting for the 1000 paper cuts to run out of paper.
@Chongo posted:At 37 years old, in 3 years, Bobby Slowik has gone from quality control guy on defense to the hottest OC in the league.
Welcome to 2024.
And a few months later there are already rumblings out of Texas that his seat is starting to get a little warm. Not as hot an OC in the league right now given he has a potential superstar QB that is underperforming right now.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:And a few months later there are already rumblings out of Texas that his seat is starting to get a little warm. Not as hot an OC in the league right now given he has a potential superstar QB that is underperforming right now.
Yeah underperforming vs. a Super Bowl quality defense.
You cannot live only converting 3rd downs - which is what CJ was doing before. There is tape on him now & he needs to adjust. I have no doubt CJ will find a groove & improve. He's a top 10 QB
Based on the film review somebody posted from YT in the +/- thread, it sounds like he had horrible protection sunday. From the OL to the backs to the TE. He was constantly under pressure. Some of that I'm sure is a credit to the D for making their jobs harder but the guys on the review made it sound like it wasn't so much on Stroud. FWIW.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:And a few months later there are already rumblings out of Texas that his seat is starting to get a little warm. Not as hot an OC in the league right now given he has a potential superstar QB that is underperforming right now.
Didn't say he wasn't overrated, just that far less ludicrous things than Hafley being a hot name for HC, have happened recently in the NFL.
@DH13 posted:the guys on the review made it sound like it wasn't so much on Stroud. FWIW.
Completely disagree with those guys. You wanna be a premier QB in this league? You need to diagnose that defense, pre-snap. Nobody said it's easy....and the D really dialed it up and had some free rushers coming free speeding up CJ's clock forcing him to get that ball out before he wanted to.
197 yards allowed. 4 for 13 on 3rd down. That's not very bendy.
The #Packers run defense is 15th in DVOA.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) October 23, 2024
An average run defense.
I could cry.
Oh, how long we've yearned to be average.
My eyes say we are above average.
Wondering how our second half defense ranks compared to the other 31 teams
If we can get a little more out of the front 4 this defense is gonna be a big big problem.
Nice getting Wyatt back.
@Boris posted:"If a player is comfortable , doesn't it stand to reason they will be more successful?!?!"
Anyone think Joe Barry would ever say that or ACT on that??? The fact he was the DC in 2023 was fucking criminal.
The fact Barry remained DC in 2023 was a felony.
That Barry was hired in the first place was, at the very least, a gross misdemeanor.
So many things to like about MLF, including it appears bringing in Hafley, but the hiring of Barry and Drayton are not among them.
(The jury remains out on Bisaccia).
@SteveLuke posted:(The jury remains out on Bisaccia).
And trending down.....DO SOMETHING besides collect a paycheck
As long as he keeps missing kicks for the Niners, I'm thinking about reinstating the avatar 🤭
Packers defensive ranks through Week 16:
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) December 24, 2024
Points per game: 6th
Rushing yards per game: 7th
Passing yards per game: 8th
Takeaways: T-3rd
Sack percentage: 6th
Definitely beginning to resemble a top-ten unit.
We've all been screaming for just a top 15 defensive unit because the offense has always been great.
Welp......here we are.
I miss Joe Barry 😢
Pettine had one season with top 10 in points and takeaways, but not yards. Had another season where he was top 10 in yards but not points or takeaways.
For what today’s NFL is, it’s definitely a very good defense. I’d say that from watching the league overall, I’m not sure I’ve truly seen any team with a truly great defense.
There’s some very good ones including the Packers, but it seems like there isn’t any one defense that can slow down the very best offenses this year.
One thing I’ve noticed about the defense under Hafley, especially in the secondary, is that the number of busted coverages and miscommunication seems close to non-existent. With two rookies starting most of the season (Williams and Bullard). Strange to see that since in every defense since Charles Woodson left regardless of coordinator there have ALWAYS been coverage busts! Good coaching, for sure, and having X playing centerfield certainly helps!
A couple of interesting stats:
Packers have only given up one pass of over 40 yards all season. Teams learned after his hot start that you just can’t risk throwing deep with X back there.
Then there’s this:
@zachabson: Eric Stokes was targeted three times against the Saints last night, allowing one catch for four yards in 29 coverage snaps. In his last five games, he's allowed six receptions on 14 targets for 22 yards and a touchdown for a 58.6 passer rating.
Stokes has problems in man coverage but he’s thriving in zone… plus tacking very well of late. A great reclamation project.
Since Week 11, the Packers have scored the second-most points in the NFL and allowed the second-fewest points in the NFL. Have an NFL best +90 point differential over the last 6 weeks.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) December 24, 2024
Next big step coming up.
Enjoy Haf while “we” can. Especially the droolers comparing him to Barry
All this being done especially in the past few weeks - while having to manufacture pass rush and playing without arguably one of the top 5 CB’s in the league.
Hafley, X , Jacobs and Let’s Go Brandon deserve streets named after them.
@Iowacheese posted:Hafley, X , Jacobs and Let’s Go Brandon deserve streets named after them.
Put the title back in town!
Then we'll discuss street naming.
Like Gutenkunst Parkway
@ilcuqui posted:One thing I’ve noticed about the defense under Hafley, especially in the secondary, is that the number of busted coverages and miscommunication seems close to non-existent. With two rookies starting most of the season (Williams and Bullard). Strange to see that since in every defense since Charles Woodson left regardless of coordinator there have ALWAYS been coverage busts! Good coaching, for sure, and having X playing centerfield certainly helps!
On the Anderson INT last night, if Anderson had not been in his position then Valentine was right there for the INT too. Great coverage by both.
@Boris posted:Since Week 11, the Packers have scored the second-most points in the NFL and allowed the second-fewest points in the NFL. Have an NFL best +90 point differential over the last 6 weeks.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) December 24, 2024
It’s always intrigued me with this kinda stuff, why did this guy pick week 11, why not12 , why not two?
