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IF Jordy is close to 100%, he Monty and Cook are three new pieces entirely that weren’t in a Packer uniform during the ugly 4-6 stretch last year. IF the combination of better health, conditioning, sports psychology and/or Jordy-trickle down economics work as hoped, Lacy, Adams and Cobb can play to the potential they barely sniffed last year. IF Janis at least joins the WR rotation on the merits of the Cardinal game, my green and gold TI-83 graphing calculator puts the team at 7 new or improved skill position players not around last year.

I'll bet he's real interested in staying for more than a year. Just needs to establish a value first. The guys has had no one throwing him the ball in his career- he now has a someone. 

Put 8 in the box now, f-ers...

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Last year Gary Barnidge had 79 receptions for 1,045 yards and 9 TD's after catching 44 passes TOTAL the previous 6 years. 

I mention this for two reasons. You probably have no idea who the eff Gary Barnidge is. And that Barnidge was coached by new Packers TE coach Brian Angelichio in Cleveland last year. 

Angelichio has shown he can get a lot out of very little. I think Angelichio is a big reason why Cook is a Packer this year. 

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I agree with what several others have posted. This is exactly the type of signing I wanted. 2.7 million guaranteed to a guy who needs one good year to get his money. Give me about 3 of these types of contracts rather than 4 years and 30 million to Dwayne Allen.

Some comments:

1. Even if he drops some balls he should catch, at least the LBs and safeties have to cover him in the middle of the field. Just having a TE with some speed on the field should help out even as a decoy.

2. Hope he has a monster year and then gets his big money deal elsewhere. That way, we might get a compensatory pick in 2018.

Question.

When did the narrative start that a Packer player that has a "monster year" instantly becomes too expensive to remain in Green Bay? I must have missed that day in X4 training class. 

Great signing. And to add, I wouldn't forget about Dick Rod either. Rodgers remains a good red zone threat but now we finally have a TE who can expose the middle of the field again. We haven't had that since Finley.  Inside the red zone, Rodgers. Between the 20s Cook. And let's see what Angelichio can do. I think GB may have snagged a really good TE coach.

ChilliJon posted:

Question.

When did the narrative start that a Packer player that has a "monster year" instantly becomes too expensive to remain in Green Bay? I must have missed that day in X4 training class. 

If he's decides to stay in Green Bay after a monster year, even better. I guess we could always franchise him as well which was about 9 million for a TE this year.

He'll be 30 going into the 2017 season so I can't imagine he would command "top TE money". 

But the thought that we'd get a comp pick if someone else signs him in 2017 is right on the money.  The NEP have made such signings/non signings/comp pick part of their business model.

Boris posted:

We're winning the Super Bowl this year

The offense is certainly going to be one of the top 2 or 3 units in the league again next year. I feel pretty comfortable making that prediction. If they can shore up the DL and the mess at ILB in the draft, this team should be the favorite to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

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SI's Doug Farrar, one of the better dissectors of the Packers' offense, weighs in on the Cook signing. 

... What can he do in Green Bay's offense? Cook isn't a burner, and he's probably not going to threaten free safeties down the deep seam, but he's definitely a quarterback's friend on slants, comebacks, and curl/flat routes—the kinds of quick, first-read routes that were missing from the Packers' game plans last season. And when you watch Cook's 2015 tape, it's very much a product of quarterback inefficiency and inaccuracy—countless poorly thrown passes from Nick Foles and Case Keenum, usually under pressure, and Cook simply couldn't recover in time to passes thrown at the wrong shoulder against his leverage, or five feet over his head, or five yards past where he was. His 2015 stats—39 catches on 75 targets for 481 yards and no touchdowns—are far more reflective of St. Louis' 2015 quarterback disaster than Cook losing any of his game at age 28.
This signing may have the Packers better off at tight end than they've been in the last decade. Last season, per Pro Football Focus, Green Bay ran two tight ends on the field on just 94 snaps, which is near the bottom of league percentages. Packers head coach McCarthy talked at the owners meetings about his receivers' lack of ability to beat tight coverage last season, and as usual, he blamed it more on personnel than an offensive system that looked rudimentary and unhelpful more often than not.

“Our biggest failure on offense is defenses challenged us with seven, eight men in the box, and schematically I don’t know really how much more we could’ve done,” McCarthy said. “We threw a lot back at the defenses, particularly the second half of the season. After going through the scheme evaluation, it’s more fundamental and winning the one-on-ones. We didn’t do a very good job winning the one-on-ones on the perimeter and the fact of the matter is when you have one more than the offense has at the line of scrimmage all day long, obviously it’s more challenging for the running game and it’s obviously the focus on keeping Aaron in the box."
So, given that functional constraint, it certainly makes sense to give Rodgers more big targets ...

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/03/...n-rodgers-jared-cook

Cook looks pretty damn fast to me. Guess a steady diet of Quarless/R. Rodgers//Perillo watching will do that to you.

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cuqui posted:

 

“Our biggest failure on offense is defenses challenged us with seven, eight men in the box, and schematically I don’t know really how much more we could’ve done,” McCarthy said. “We threw a lot back at the defenses, particularly the second half of the season. After going through the scheme evaluation, it’s more fundamental and winning the one-on-ones...

 

Play your Janis's MM...play your Janis's

Grave Digger posted:

It felt wrong, but technically he is the face of their franchise. Not a good franchise QB, but the clear starter. 

He's one of the best in the league, which shows why guys like Brock Osweiler get the deals they do and why teams often give up so much to draft one. There aren't enough good QBs to go around. 

Herschel posted:
Grave Digger posted:

It felt wrong, but technically he is the face of their franchise. Not a good franchise QB, but the clear starter. 

He's one of the best in the league, which shows why guys like Brock Osweiler get the deals they do and why teams often give up so much to draft one. There aren't enough good QBs to go around. 

"He's one of the best in the league"

That is some mother****ing nut sucking tripe. 

 

grignon posted:

I was looking at Cook's career to date. He had 1 year of a decent 36 year old Hasselbeck (set Cook's career yardage mark) and 1/2 a year of a good Bradford as his QBs. The other 5.5 years were basically half year intervals of Vince Young, Kerry Collins, Case Keenum, Jake Locker, Austin Davis, Nick Foles & Shaun Hill.  None of those started more than 11 games in a season. That might be enough to derail even the best receivers.

This is so right on.  Here is a summary of Jerrod Cook's career stats. 

That's what Jeff Fisher will do for your career.  Not one season with a QB with 30 TD passes.  One winning season.  No emphasis on QB play.

The Packers are better today, and I am hopeful he will match his athleticism with game time performance.

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Henry posted:

It was a good signing but an 11 minute highlight reel?  Some people have too much time on their hands.

He put the video together prior to Cook actually signing just on the chance he might. Safe to say he takes the team pretty seriously.

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all I would like to see change is the after td/catch shenanigans.  About half a dozen of those catches/TD's would have been challenged or called back because he throws the ball into the crowd or in the air/drops it JUST as he crosses the plane.  Hold the ball genius and we will be fine, celebrate later.

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