Boston.
New England Patriots.
Just sayin. https://t.co/zAQd0I73Bf

— Packerpedia (@Packerpedia) September 6, 2017

Well, Lookee here what thread we need to pull up again!

Patriots employee filming the Bengals sidelines yesterday

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2866183

"But of course, it was for a TV show!"

During Spygate investigation, NFL found that Patriots had excuses ready in case an advance scout got caught filming another team. One of those excuses: Tell them you need the footage for a team show. #Patriots https://t.co/VQ2mebxENu pic.twitter.com/zt5Mzr8MGX

— John Breech (@johnbreech) December 9, 2019

Still, Dianna Russini of ESPN reported a Bengals employee was monitoring the cameraman during the game and claimed he was shooting the Bengals staff on the sidelines during the first quarter. "The cameraman asked if they could just delete the footage and it all be forgotten," sources told Russini.

Did they ever stop cheating?

The Patriot Way

Based upon the Bengals performance, they were probably filming to figure out what not to do.

They’re the Chinese of the NFL.

I've got some ocean front property in Arizona for sale for anyone who buys this sh!t. 

You got all your bases covered when you are cheating to gain an advantage over the Bengals. 

Oh C'mon....every team is doing this!!

My response to that statement?

Then why has NO OTHER team been caught! I'll tell you why....because the other 31 teams have respect for the game.  

There's a reason why the Patriots got royally screwed vs. K.C. Sunday Night. Expect to see that often. I'll bet the League has had quite enough of the Patriots cheating. 

Very crafty response by the Pats

Of course Bill Belicheat is going to provide some lame ass excuse.  The question I have is why would anyone actually believe him?  

This is an organization that actively engages in and promotes this type of behavior.   If this shit happened in the NCAA they vacate wins and can suffer harsh penalties like having scholarships removed. 

The league should take a stand and say you know what?   Take away multiple draft picks this time and a institute a postseason ban.   Enough is enough. 

Out in Oakland, it was reported that the Raiders had offices in a high rise that overlooked their football field. When visiting teams came in for a pregame practice, Al Davis's staff would have those practices filmed for the Raiders to prepare for that team.

Looks like a skyscraper is needed in GB, lets go Murph!

I think the Quality Inn in Green Bay is three stories.

I'm sure this tape will also be destroyed by the league before anyone else can look it at it, just like the tapes related to Spygate were ordered destroyed by Goodell ten years ago. Supposedly there wasn't anything really to see. I read some of the old articles and was surprised I didn't remember the Packers were the team that first caught them. 

https://deadspin.com/bombshell...-cheaters-1729286402

The Patriots’ taping apparently went undetected until 2006, when Packers security caught cameraman Matt Estrella filming illegally. (He claimed he was merely taking scenic shots for “Kraft Productions.”) That offseason, the NFL warned the Patriots in writing. Before the next year’s opener the Jets set up a sting operation, with the assistance of team and NFL security, to catch the Patriots in the act.

FROM THE SAME ARTICLE

Inside a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others, they found a library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents’ signals, with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons. Among them were handwritten diagrams of the defensive signals of the Pittsburgh Steelers, including the notes used in the January 2002 AFC Championship Game won by the Patriots 24-17. Yet almost as quickly as the tapes and notes were found, they were destroyed, on Goodell’s orders: League executives stomped the tapes into pieces and shredded the papers inside a Gillette Stadium conference room.

This is almost exactly what they were caught doing in Cincinnati, but now they have the plausible deniability that these are "contract workers" and that they didn't "have any knowledge" of what they were actually filming. Of course, taking pictures of some backup QBs signaling calls in on the field is exactly what you'd expect to see in a documentary about advance scouts (a truly exciting topic related to staying in a lot of hotel rooms). 

Know how many Super Bowls the Patriots won between 2006 (when the Packers caught them illegally filming) and 2013 - zero. They were still a great team, but they lost in the playoffs every  year. In 2007 when they probably still had notes on all the signals, they went 16-0 but lost on the helmet catch. Then they gradually morped into a team that had the same random luck as other teams. The last few years, they morped back into a team that always seems to be a step ahead of the other team and seems to "luck" out more than other teams - announcers and talking heads just attribute it to Belichick's brilliance. It may have just as much to do with the the fact that they've just figured out a different way to cheat. 

Sadly this is the way of the world. But I would like to believe that this stain would prevent the renaming of the Lombardi trophy, at least in "honor" of Belichick.

If it's confirmed that this cock sucker is doing the same shit that led to them losing a 1st round pick, you got to ban him.   Keeping integrity requires that this guy is removed from the league. 

Yup!

Perhaps removing one of their Super Bowl wins would send a message.

Belichick was not involved at all. Honest! These are contractors working for Kraft Productions. 

Mac and Cheat from Kraft Productions.

Lombardi had Starr wear #51 during  practice the week before they'd play the Bears 'cause he was concerned with Halas's spies.

They'll never ban him and the only thing that would make any difference is to bar them from the playoffs for a year or two. That's never happening. 

They've already punished them with taking away a first round pick. The Patriots clearly think its worth the risk to continue doing this. At this point, is taking away the #30 pick in the draft any deterrent at all? 

The Patriots already have a gigantic, legal advantage in that they save about 8-10 million in having a franchise QB with a 20-23 million dollar a year salary because his wife's net worth is approaching that of a typical NFL owner (Giselle Bundchen is estimated to be worth 400 millinon). 

In 20 years, they'll be retrospectives with former Patriots players and staff laughing about this and calling it "gamesmanship" 

Hey.....if you're on the sidelines & stealing signals during live gameplay.....that's Gamesmanship. Doug Pedersen did it vs. The Bears when Favre was QB'ing -- that's fair game!

Video recording a practice of a future opponent? Flat out disrespectful of the game.

Fuck. The. Patriots & Belichick. 

A certain coach has about the same chance of being "banned" as a certain politician does of being removed from office.