I look at this Lions loss as similar to the 49ers loss (twice I think) to the Rams last year. In reality there's no reason why the 49ers should have lost twice to the Rams, but sometimes you just get some bad matchups and one team plays more inspired football. It sucks but it happens. We have had worse starts in GB.
It's also possible that the Lions are better than the Packers.
Negative
To go with the 6 drops v DET and the 5 drops v NYJ, Aaron Rodgers has over/under thrown 11 pct of his passes in '14, twice his career average.
Trust or confidence in the receivers and the OL?
Positive
The Patriots are last in the league in yards per offensive play.
The advantage the Packers have always had against the Lions was AR under center. Sunday that didn't matter and top to bottom I'd rate Detroit's personnel as superior to the Packers'.
Right now until they demonstrate otherwise I'd put the Packers as the third best team in the division, behind both the Lions and Bears.
most of the Packers problems seem to be between the ears.
hopefully that will clear when they pull their heads out of their behinds.
time for players to start making plays, play with confidence and attitude.
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
It's also possible that the Lions are better than the Packers.
Eventually, drafting at the top of the first round results in top talent. Does anyone believe that the Lions don't have more raw talent on the roster?
Calvin Johnson 2nd overall 2007
Stafford 1st overall 2009
Suh 2nd overall 2010
Fairley 13th overall 2011
Ansah 5th overall 2013
Other than Stafford, that is Pro Bowl level talent (and Stafford is physically a Pro Bowl talent), and those are the core players that make the Lions a potential playoff team.
The Packers first round picks on the roster are:
Rodgers (23rd overall) 2005
Hawk (5th overall) 2006
Matthews (26th overall) 2009
Bulaga (23rd overall) 2010
Sherrod (32nd overall) 2011
Datone Jones (26th overall) 2013
Clinton-Dix (21st overall) 2014
If you redrafted 2005 and 2009 AR and CM3 go higher, but who was the last impact player/Pro Bowl type the Packers added that is still on the roster? Jordy Nelson, Josh Sitton, and ....? The Packers have several good players that you can win with like Williams, Shields, Lang, and Daniels, but unless you think Eddie Lacy is going to regain last year's form, they have no one else (other than Julius Peppers) that people have to game plan around. Draft and develop works to fill in solid talent if you hit on a couple of superstars - which is what happened with Rodgers and Matthews in 2010. It doesn't get you the superstars. The majority of the time these guys come at the top of the draft - (Tom Brady and Russell Wilson are exceptions).
I should have added the other advantage the Packers had was Jim Schwartz as coach. That one wasn't there either Sunday.
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
It's also possible that the Lions are better than the Packers.
It's also possible that you are a Lions Fan.
Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
It's also possible that the Lions are better than the Packers.
Eventually, drafting at the top of the first round results in top talent. Does anyone believe that the Lions don't have more raw talent on the roster?
Calvin Johnson 2nd overall 2007
Stafford 1st overall 2009
Suh 2nd overall 2010
Fairley 13th overall 2011
Ansah 5th overall 2013
Other than Stafford, that is Pro Bowl level talent (and Stafford is physically a Pro Bowl talent), and those are the core players that make the Lions a potential playoff team.
The Packers first round picks on the roster are:
Rodgers (23rd overall) 2005
Hawk (5th overall) 2006
Matthews (26th overall) 2009
Bulaga (23rd overall) 2010
Sherrod (32nd overall) 2011
Datone Jones (26th overall) 2013
Clinton-Dix (21st overall) 2014
If you redrafted 2005 and 2009 AR and CM3 go higher, but who was the last impact player/Pro Bowl type the Packers added that is still on the roster? Jordy Nelson, Josh Sitton, and ....? The Packers have several good players that you can win with like Williams, Shields, Lang, and Daniels, but unless you think Eddie Lacy is going to regain last year's form, they have no one else (other than Julius Peppers) that people have to game plan around. Draft and develop works to fill in solid talent if you hit on a couple of superstars - which is what happened with Rodgers and Matthews in 2010. It doesn't get you the superstars. The majority of the time these guys come at the top of the draft - (Tom Brady and Russell Wilson are exceptions).
**** Detroit. All this Pro Bowl level talent they've acquired over the years and they haven't seen a playoff game since 2011. They haven't won a playoff game since 1991.
Again, **** Detroit.
Originally Posted by Tdog:
most of the Packers problems seem to be between the ears.
hopefully that will clear when they pull their heads out of their behinds.
time for players to start making plays, play with confidence and attitude.
I think that this is spot on. There is, to me, obvious friction between AR and MM. Not sure who is right. But maybe this goes back to the playoff loss to the 49'ers, when they needed to get a TD, not settle for a FG, and that call with Cobb. You've got AR there, trust him, bit no MM did not.
Originally Posted by michiganjoe:
I should have added the other advantage the Packers had was Jim Schwartz as coach. That one wasn't there either Sunday.
I said that the day they fired Schwartz.
But....... Stafford did what to impress Sunday?
That game was about the Packers misfiring, not capable, or willing, to attack a weak Lions secondary. The game had zero to do with the Lions draft position vs. Packers draft position. Or: MM was out-coached by a schlub of a HC.
Does anyone see Rodgers and McCarthy hugging on the sideline? How about quick waves or subtle glances? You never see Mike give Aaron backrubs anymore.
The honeymoon is over
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
Does anyone see Rodgers and McCarthy hugging on the sideline? How about quick waves or subtle glances? You never see Mike give Aaron backrubs anymore.
The honeymoon is over
Olivia has replaced MM as the apple of AR's eye?
The man crush is over? 
Actually, and not for the obvious reasons, Olivia, who is so Hollywood......
quote:Lisa Olivia Munn (born July 3, 1980) is an American actress, comedienne, model, television personality and author. She began her career being credited as Lisa Munn. Since 2006, she has been using the name Olivia Munn personally and professionally.
...... could be a problem. I mean she isn't just an actress, oh no! She's also a a "comedienne, model, television personality and........ author", such a talent belongs to the world! Whispering into AR's ear, what the hell are you staying in Green Bay for? Hmmm? Who needs the stinkin' frozen tundra when Hollyweird beckons you.
Thanks thisisthemost****edthingievertrdid.
What a great example of failing to execute.
Good lord....I hope we can all laugh at this as the Packers are 11-3 heading into the final 2 games.
Let's hope Olivia is a Talia fan.
**** it. Let's do this. LETS DO THIS!!!!
Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:
Other than Stafford, that is Pro Bowl level talent (and Stafford is physically a Pro Bowl talent), and those are the core players that make the Lions a potential playoff team.
You forgot Levy. Really good case to be made that he was the best player on the field Sunday and he was a third-rounder. Absolutely nothing wrong with TT's draft and develop philosophy but he's had too many misses of late.
The teams that give the Packers trouble are those with a good front seven on D and while the Lions have a crap secondary they do have a dominant DL and pretty good LBs. Those types of teams can basically rush 4 and drop everyone else into coverage.
#Lions-#Packers: 2-Man. FS/SS play w/ depth in deep half + man-under. Nowhere for Rodgers to go w/ the ball. Sack. pic.twitter.com/e1Y2murc5M
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