Montgomery followed Banjo nicely on the 41 yard KO return.
are you sure that was Banjo? I thought he followed Rip on the KOs. no biggie.
Don't misunderstand there Rusty. 189 rushing yards is unacceptable. The positive is the 2nd half D looked better than the 1st half.
I just *bumped* the +/- thread from the @CHI game from last year and the complaints are almost mirrored to this game. Biggest being the piss poor 1st half and then better 2nd half defensive showing.
Fox and staff are an improvement, but the Bears still have Jay (at least through 2016) and Forte will be 30 this season.
You're right Tdog, 22 and not 32... just re-watched the return. Regardless, I like how he followed the lead block through the wedge line.
Monty is going to house at least 1 KO for 6 this year.
Originally Posted by ChilliJon:
Monty is going to house at least 1 KO for 6 this year.
Sunday Night buuuuuuddy!
Originally Posted by Boris:
How do you want to die? Slow or fast? ...
I'd pick slow, giving the Packers' offense every opportunity to kill a promising drive with a penalty.
Pretty good review of the Packers' play Sunday @ CHI:
Originally Posted by Rusty:
Just to be clear, the Packers DID win yesterday, correct?
Yup. But, if they had won 50-0 there would still be something to complain about...no?
Indubitably. Not enough screens were called against Philly last year.
That hold on Baktiari on the TD pass was a flop by Allen. He whit caught inside, and Bak had him locked up, so Allen falls backwards as if he was pancaked? He flopped and got the call. That's why Bak had that grin after the play- the ref was completely duped.
Originally Posted by Rusty:
Just to be clear, the Packers DID win yesterday, correct?
You think the boot is happy with a win?
Damn right he isn't. The boot spent last night scouring every thread in this Forum (and the Brewer forum, just for context) just to plan for the upcoming week. It's exactly why the last call thread needs to happen later in the game just so the boot can have a digestible amount of content to work with in a week.
Sad commentary on how lazy and unmotivated kids are nowadays right there Rusty, sad commentary.
Originally Posted by Cheezers:
Woodson got hurt yesterday. I hope he is ok.
Man, I miss his presence on this team.
Me too. I miss Woodson.
On our D, we will get better. This is just going to take time. A lot of new bodies in new positions. We saw the simple progression from 1st half to 2nd half against the Bears. Our D got better. Same with the season as a whole. The second half of our season will see players in more clearly defined roles, in a kind of comfort zone, they'll know what their teammates are doing, and they will play better...
Forte is a damn good RB too. So is Lynch. So is Charles. Packers have some stuff to fix on D, but I'm confident they will get it done.
Originally Posted by Trophies:
Chili, couldn't agree more on Starks not being used. Ultimately, I believe most if not all games shift into our favor when our RBs get 30+ carries together. Yesterday was OK with Lacy getting 19 and Starks getting two, but we had the opportunities as you say, and we didn't go to the well enough. A simple 8 carries we are talking about, but that probably kills 4 an entire minutes of clock? Imposes more will against an inspired opposing D looking to nail Aaron Rodgers.
Don't you ever listen to McCarthy? All those short passes are an extension of the running game. it just gets the RB out into open space better. And with A-Rod being so accurate it is better than a hand off where the RB can get bottled up. Just a different way of getting the same thing done, move the chains and keep the clock running. And easier to play the hurry up O and not let the D sub in.
Living in the Chicago area, I suspect I've seen more of Cutler's play than most here. His upside is very high. Not Rodgers/Brady elite but he's in the next tier. He has a big league arm and is more mobile than 75% of the QBs in the league. His downfall is his low points have scuttled the team at times. The team is running its 5th offensive system since Cutler arrived in 2009. So the idea that the bears are some untalented slouches like the 2006 Lions is wrong.
Except for Shields offsides penalty, the Bears would have scored 6 points on 3 trips to the red zone and 12 in the first 59 minutes. That's a pretty good mark against a decent offense.
Originally Posted by MEl-Ka-Bong:
Originally Posted by Rusty:
Just to be clear, the Packers DID win yesterday, correct?
You think the boot is happy with a win?
Damn right he isn't. The boot spent last night scouring every thread in this Forum (and the Brewer forum, just for context) just to plan for the upcoming week. It's exactly why the last call thread needs to happen later in the game just so the boot can have a digestible amount of content to work with in a week.
Sad commentary on how lazy and unmotivated kids are nowadays right there Rusty, sad commentary.
I think McCarthy prints out X4 threads and leaves copies outside his office so if any players wants to do comedy in the weekly talent contest, they have material to go off of.
Only watched 1st qtr and had to watch rest of game on Sun night
I wont rehash the +/- here but some notes...
Both O and D looked rusty due to minimal preseason work.
Shields playing on opposite side of field, different footwork etc. Adjustment period still happening.
D tackling needs to improve FAST. Lots of whiffs were product of training camp w/minimal tackling/hitting.
Cobb hobbled, a decoy for much of game
D Adams flashed
James Jones is money!
O looked a bit vanilla. Only new play I recall was Lacy as WR on 3rd and 3 Fail - DOH
Probably saving new looks for Seattle game.
My prediction of Packer O struggling early with late INT to seal the deal wasn't that amazing but it was right.
Bottom line: Packers good enough to win against division rival on the road.
Originally Posted by Rusty:
Originally Posted by MEl-Ka-Bong:
Originally Posted by Rusty:
I think McCarthy prints out X4 threads and leaves copies outside his office so if any players wants to do comedy in the weekly talent contest, they have material to go off of.
This explains why Hawk stopped doing interviews and started his own podcast. Thanks!
My inside sources are saying that racial topics are now verboten, but it has nothing to do with any previous performances Micah Hyde may have done, thanks for asking.
talant
Rick Telander of the Chicago Sun-Times watched yesterday's game in my old stomping grounds in the Northwoods. Had more than a few pops in the bar he mentioned in my wayward youth. Friend of mine from HS gets a mention as well. Nothing you wouldn't expect regarding the local color, I'm sort of bemused Telander seems to contemplate it could be any other way.
I'll just leave this here. Do what you will with it. Via PFF:
Was this a Johnny Z sighting? Was he short?
Originally Posted by bubbleboy789:
I'll just leave this here. Do what you will with it. Via PFF:
Since I read it on the interwebs Mike Daniels sucked yesterday PFF must be rong.
Ah, but it's not a certainty that PFF's -2.6 for Shields is actually worse than their +3.8 for Peppers. 
Originally Posted by MEl-Ka-Bong:
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
Halftime adjustments? CHI w/130 yards rushing in the 1st half and ended the game w/189.
Chicago was also behind in the second half. The should have thrown less.
Aaron Rodgers is our best run defender.
Well, we know where the yeast infection came from. Even bakers know a biscuit needs to breathe.
one more +: the 3rd and 4 RUN!!!
3-4-CHI 16 (11:47) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 27-E.Lacy right guard to CHI 11 for 5 yards (50-S.McClellin).
Most exciting new play of the game.
I agree DH13 , that was really well executed. How often does the Pack Run on 3rd and 4 ? Makes this offense even more unpredictable. Scary
How about a little defense now ??!!
It happened so fast off the no huddle that I wasn't even sure what I saw. A run on 3rd and 4!? Good for the OL. I hope Clements can keep trusting them in 3rd and short.
It was awesome. Huge block by Sitton completely cleared Ego Ferguson.
Yeah, I sure remember that run on 3rd and 4 and I believe it was something like 2nd and 8 and that play was a Lacy run as well.
Earlier this summer I posted this article from last January which goes into some detail on all the changes the Packers defense made over the 2nd half of the season
http://www.jsonline.com/sports...753z1-287430621.html
Many of the fans here chimed in and said: "its all because of Matthews playing at ILB"
On Sunday, we saw that the improvement in the run defense was not solely based on moving Matthews inside. Matthews was inside and they still got gashed in the 1st half
The changes on the back- end were just as important and those improvements were missing on Sunday afternoon
They didn't have Burnett, the QB of the DBs on the field directing traffic
They didn't have Burnett filling gaps, instead it was Ha Ha whiffing
They didn't have veteran Tramon outside, but instead a talented rookie in his first-ever NFL game. Can't leave the rookie totally on an island so they had the safety shading towards Randall . Chicago knows this and attacked Shields on the other side of the field both in the run and the pass. Packers also played some Cover 2, which hurts the run defense and opens up the underneath throws for Cutler
We also faced a DC in Fangio who went out of his way to challenge Shields' side of the field. He remembers that from his time in SF doing the exact same thing - forcing Shields to tackle ( tramon too)
Its not just moving Matthews that makes the run D better, its 11 guys working together and its also very dependent on help from the DBs in filling lanes
Help that wasn't available on Sunday due to injury and other circumstances.
Like Peppers said: they'll get better from here