Dude isn't in the NCAA any longer.
quote:That guy is the biggest scumbag and liar in the NCAA.
Urban Meyer would disagree.
To be honest, Perry looked slow, but that could just be college vs NFL.
I agree with vitaflo. from the youtube clips I watched I didn't see the burst/quickness that it seems everyone talks about him having. that said, college is over and let's see what he can do at this level. FORWARD!
The good news is, Jamal Reynolds showed that quickness on film and was essentially worthless. Perry has incredible strength so he should be able to hold the point of attack on the edge in which you need in your OLB in the 3-4.
Kevin Greene coached up a limited athlete in Frank Zombo in an offseason from a UDFA to a contributor. He coached a good athlete in Erik Walden, mid-season, from an afterthought street FA to a contributor. Even if Perry doesn't have the heart and desire of Clay Matthews he's still an elite athlete and I think Greene can AT LEAST turn him into a strong contributor. He will be more than that though. Greene will get everything possible out of Perry which is an elite edge rusher.
Fun re-read of this thread.
Perry looks like he belongs, even if he hasn't made a splash yet. Unlike bearShea...
Perry and McClellin
Perry looks like he belongs, even if he hasn't made a splash yet. Unlike bearShea...
Perry and McClellin
quote:
What they have seen at this early stage, however, is that he at least looks like he belongs. He doesn't remind the team of Joey Jamison, for example.
Jamison was the player drafted by Ron Wolf in the fifth round of the 2000 draft that was supposed to vie for the open returner position that had never been solved since Desmond Howard left town. In one of his first practices, Ron Wolf stood by watching while Jamison fielded several punts. He dropped most of them.
"I guess I (expletive) that one up," Wolf famously quipped.
Bobby Bushea getting powned.....who woulda saw that coming???
Somewhere Rosie O Donnell and a mailman are crying....sheesh
Somewhere Rosie O Donnell and a mailman are crying....sheesh
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
Fun re-read of this thread.
Perry looks like he belongs, even if he hasn't made a splash yet. Unlike bearShea...
Perry and McClellin
I like the last 3 words in that article
"Time will tell."
Nick Perry will have a better pro career than Chandler Jones.
Woo-hoo!!
He ran him over.quote:PGPackersNews RT @RobDemovsky: Nick Perry becomes the first one to beat Bulaga in the one on ones. He ran him over. #Packers
not sure if good news about Perry or bad news about Bulaga
I know, I never know who to root for in TC. But in this case, definitely good for Perry. Bulaga has already established a reputation for high level play and has been blanking Perry all camp. This shows Perry may be making progress.
quote:Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
not sure if good news about Perry or bad news about Bulaga
I'm going with great news on Perry. Bulaga is a known commodity and apparently got beat. Cool.
Bulaga let him win because he felt bad for him. That's good Hawkeye sportsmanship that you only learn Iowa right there.
Perry will see some action against Jeromey Clary tonight in SD. Clary is not Brian Bulaga. Clary gave up 8 sacks last year, held 3 times and had 4 false starts (Bulaga gave up 1 sack, 1 hold, 1 false start.... damm he's good).
I expect to see some flashes that Perry is too much for Clary tonight. He should be.
I expect to see some flashes that Perry is too much for Clary tonight. He should be.
Chargers are in the same spot as GB as far as the Tackles go, they'll be trotting out some undrafted guys as well
http://www.utsandiego.com/news...chargers-blind-side/
http://www.utsandiego.com/news...chargers-blind-side/
Since we're discussing 2012 picks, thoughts?
I keep trying to figure out where Perry is going to play. Is it LB with Peppers on board?
is it DE? on the right side along with Clay? Should be an interesting pre-season. If it is best eleven on the field at all times-you would think Datone Jones, Mike Daniels, Neal, Perry, Clay, and Peppers would see most of the action when they ae in the nickel. But God knows where they will line up.
Time for Perry to step up to the plate and demonstrate that he was worth the first-rounder TT gave up for him. He's had flashes but his career to date has largely been about an inability to stay on the field.
As to the '12 class as a whole, Daniels is the only player who's given the team consistent production. I expect Hayward to bounce back but again TT missed in the middle rounds with Manning and McMillian and I never really liked Worthy coming out of MSU. Premature to grade it yet but it's not trending in a particularly positive direction.
4-3 DE who is being "mad scientist schemed" to worthlessness.
Just rush him from the right side, pls. Pert near unstoppable the few times it was done last season.
Patience gentlemen, Perry just needs a little extra time learning the postion
He's got the athleticism and the desire, he's just slightly slower on the football IQ side in assimilating his new role. He spent years with his hand in the dirt moving forward at the snap and reading the OL. Now he has to understand coverages for all the skill positions and how it impacts his role in each package. Its a lot to take in and each dude has a different pace/ learning curve. I expect big things from him this year
It makes sense that he is more comfortable on the right side initially, but he has to learn the techniques for both sides to play in this defense.
Originally Posted by Henry:
4-3 DE who is being "mad scientist schemed" to worthlessness.
I'm gonna push back on that one a bit
I think they wanted a "stouter" LOLB to set the edge in the run game and he's a decent fit for that role.
We'll see over the next few months if he can make the next leap
He's more than athletic enough to make the conversion but he came into the draft promoting himself as a 4-3 DE, which he is. He even beefed up for the role. Between injuries and defensive "genius" his development continues to be stiffled. The comment about playing him on the right side is correct and also points to the fact that he hasn't assimilated fully and the best production he has shown comes from him playing on a side of the field he is familiar with.
It's the square peg in a round hole approach. They need to figuratively whittle down the edges first. Signing Peppers brought in a vet presence but it also speaks to the need for more practical training for Perry as well as having a legit player opposite of Matthews.
I have no doubt Perry can be a good player but his first couple of years of development has been misguided at times.
I'd like to see a subpackage in passing situations where Perry has his hand on the dirt along with Jones, Daniels, and Neal/Peppers, with Matthews and Peppers/Neal standing up. Legitimate pass rush threat from every one of those guys.
Originally Posted by Henry:
Between injuries and defensive "genius" his development continues to be stifled.
I have no doubt Perry can be a good player but his first couple of years of development has been misguided at times.
We can ascribe his slower development to any number of reasons
and they likely all played a role
Learning a new and more challenging position
remaking his physique
lower football IQ
multiple injuries
left side - right side
playing too soon ?
lack of competition
(Capers sucks)
I do like your comment about Peppers showing him the way- he's another larger DL- type who will be making a similar transition to OLB. Given the injury history of Clay and Nick, having a 3rd OLB who's an actual threat seems promising.
And now Nick will have real competition at the position
Were you guys in debate club in high school? You both make valid arguments. Let's see what the judges say.....
This judge says if this Defense can stay relatively healthy this year, they are going to be top 10. And as soon as Jones has his yearly injury and gets replaced by Lattimore, they may move into the top 5. TT has been adding talant to this D for the past 3 years, it's time for it to pay off.
Jeez, if the Packers can get a top 10 defense, they're a shoo-in for their 14th championship. No one could compete with them with this offense and an above average defense.
That's a big bonus due in 3 months.
Fluke injury aside, doesn't excuse months of non-production while healthy before the Miami game. Including 2017. One year wonder who got way over paid.
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Does anyone really think Nick Perry ever ISN'T trying to prevent injury? Kind of silly to point that out, I'm sure the guy doesn't want to be constantly injured. Don't know if it's bad luck or what, but the guy just isn't reliable enough to owe big money to.
Same shit, different day. Of course he is not a malingerer and he does not want to get hurt, he just gets hurt. It's a tough business but as Vito said, it's the business we have chosen. Bye, bye Nick and good luck in your future endeavors.
Pretty good player when he's healthy, which is almost never. Rolled the dice on the contract given his history and unfortunately it didn't work out.
He doesn't get to use HGH like Tom Brady.
Oh, oops...Did I say that out loud?
I didn't hear anything. I read it, but didn't hear anything.
Phaderus and I heard it
ChilliJon posted:Nick Perry will have a better pro career than Chandler Jones.
Son of a close friend played at Syracuse at the same time as Jones and I remember him telling me two things about Jones. First, he had a bit of an odd background and second that everyone involved in the Syracuse program was convinced he was a more natural and might end up being an even better 3-4 outside linebacker than Dwight Freeney.
With the Packers in such dire need of an outside linebacker opposite Clay after the 2011 disaster, I held out hope against hope that Jones would be the pick. That the freaking Patriots swiped him was just depressing. Still wonder what it would have meant to the Packers if Jones had lasted until the pick that was used on Perry.
And to show just how plugged in I am into the draft, I also "knew" the Packers got the steal of the 2014 draft when they selected a kid I'd seen play quite a bit in high school, the great Carl Bradford.