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@Tschmack posted:

Ron Dayne ran away from a number of defenders in college.  In the pros, even the backups are as good as 85% of the best players they would have played against in college football.   


There aren’t many Purdue’s or Rutgers or Maryland or Indiana’s in the pros. 

 

Dayne also had a LOT of mileage and went to a poor system. Jim Fassel thought he was a pounder, instead of a large glider. He had a good run in Houston a few years later. 

Big RBs just don't have a good track record in the NFL lately.  Derrick Henry is really the only bruiser in the last decade that's been able to show sustained success in the NFL and he's probably the exception, not the rule.  Just like how every short QB is not the next Drew Brees, every big RB is not the next Derrick Henry.  

I think AJ Dillon is probably going to have a career like Brandon Jacobs.  And I don't think that's a bad thing.  Jacobs was part of a really good backfield that helped the Giants to two Super Bowls.  Just curious as to how this pick affects Jones.  

@Pakrz posted:

You also believed passing on TJ Watt was a good idea, so....

And I'll continue to defend that decision without the benefit of hindsight. King is a decent CB. Great? no....but a competent starter.

You don't get a crystal ball during the draft.

I also believed drafting Rodgers was a good idea. You win some you lose some.

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The Packers drafted the guy who fit their system and passed on the one who didn't. Its pretty typical for teams to do that and its just as typical that fans don't take the time to understand it - they simply rip on the team and revel in their own awesomeness

Mike Pettine asks different things from his OLBs than what Capers and some other DCs ask of theirs. Some teams prefer the smaller, bend-the edge types, while Pettine prefers the bigger dudes who can both set the edge in the run game and jump inside on passing downs. Z Smith is a perfect example of this.
Z, P and Gary are all Bigger Dudes, weighing 270 instead of 250 and having a very different build

The Packers also passed on Brian Burns, some Packer fans were apoplectic - because they didn't take the time to learn why he was a poor fit for the way Pettine wants to call his defense. Matthews ? Also gone. Not because he was done, but because he's the smaller, hair- on- fire edge bender.

The GMs stack the team with player-types the coaches want and pass up the guys who don't fit the scheme as well. Its not difficult to understand, but it does fly in the face of fans who are so certain the Packers fucked up and they were right all along.

Another Inconvenient Truth.

@Satori posted:

The Packers drafted the guy who fit their system and passed on the one who didn't. Its pretty typical for teams to do that and its just as typical that fans don't take the time to understand it - they simply rip on the team and revel in their own awesomeness

Mike Pettine asks different things from his OLBs than what Capers and some other DCs ask of theirs. Some teams prefer the smaller, bend-the edge types, while Pettine prefers the bigger dudes who can both set the edge in the run game and jump inside on passing downs. Z Smith is a perfect example of this.
Z, P and Gary are all Bigger Dudes, weighing 270 instead of 250 and having a very different build

The Packers also passed on Brian Burns, some Packer fans were apoplectic - because they didn't take the time to learn why he was a poor fit for the way Pettine wants to call his defense. Matthews ? Also gone. Not because he was done, but because he's the smaller, hair- on- fire edge bender.

The GMs stack the team with player-types the coaches want and pass up the guys who don't fit the scheme as well. Its not difficult to understand, but it does fly in the face of fans who are so certain the Packers fucked up and they were right all along.

Another Inconvenient Truth.

Except Dom Capers was the defensive coordinator for the 2016 and 2017 season.  TJ Watt was drafted in April of 2017.  That means Watt was passed over by Ted Thompson when Dom Capers was still defensive coordinator of the Packers.  Mike Pettine was not hired until January 2018.  

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