ROUND 5 PICK 147 (from NE via CLE) - QB BRETT HUNDLEY (UCLA)

I'd like to put Hundley on the field for a 2 point try, he's got some wheels

Bert is a taint stain.

 

Waste a pick for a scout team look for a guy that's going to crash and burn like Mike Vick over the next few years?  Okay.  Did 9ers fans not get the memo they aren't relevant anymore?

They are like a ghost that doesn't know it's dead, so it wanders aimlessly spouting off the same nonsense it did when it was alive.

Are we talking about Kaepernick, the 49ers, or the Vikings now? Sorry. I'll try to follow along. 

Crap.  Maybe I'm the ghost.

9er's are more Sixth Sense.  Vikings are Weekend at Bernies.

Bears are walking dead?

From Matt Waldman at RSP via Football Outsiders:

 

Brett Hundley

Brett Hundley's feet are fluid and precise, but there's an underlying urgency. As my colleague Eric Stoner described, there's a build-up of kinetic energy in his legs. Of the top three quarterbacks in the eyes of draft media, Hundley is the most nitpicked. He's also the most hamstrung by his offense.

 

UCLA's line play was below average, and the coaching staff did not allow Hundley to call audibles -- not even a check to a run or a simple protection change when it was obvious the line was outnumbered pre-snap. The conventional analysis concludes that Hundley wasn't advanced enough as a player and UCLA couldn't give the quarterback that responsibility. Ever consider that the concern wasn't Hundley but the line?

 

Entertain this notion and that kinetic urgency from Hundley is a logical reaction of a player whose coaching staff decided We'll keep things simple on offense and if the play breaks down, we'll let our best player work his way out of it. It's not the only thing draft media might be overanalyzing about Hundley. I've watched enough games of the Bruins quarterback to conclude that there's way too much being made of his tendency to break the pocket too early. There are plays where he'll flush outside the pocket too fast, but there might not be a better pocket climber against interior and edge pressure in this class than Hundley.

 

He's an explosive player whose true potential, I think, has been bottled up by his own team. I expect Hundley's play in two or three years to leave draft media wondering why they overthought him.

Solid analysis. UCLA line stunk. If this Brett is a more disciplined student than the last Brett, he could build a decent career.

Passer rating : 129.6

45 completions in 65 attempts(69.2% completion percentage)

630 passing yards

7 TD's, 1 INT

 

 

Helluva preseason for a guy who many looked at as a project and years away.

Really looks like a veteran out there and his poise is really impressive. You do the draft over today and the guy doesn't make it out of the second round (if not the first).

Trade Rodgers for three 1sts, two 2nds and a 4th to SF 49ers, start Hundley as your QB.

 

 

       
       


Yeah, early in OTAs you could tell this kid had something special. A confidence.

I'll never forget when we drafted him, on my way back from Chicago, listening to CHI Sports radio. They had just drafted the Safety out of Penn State, and we roll up with the trade to snag Hundley. The fans calling in went ballistic. I laughed all the way home.

Still marveling at that guy......whew, sure made the game fun to watch.    

There are plays where he'll flush outside the pocket too fast, but there might not be a better pocket climber against interior and edge pressure in this class than Hundley.

Must say this is what has impressed me the most about Hundley in limited viewings. His poise and composure both in and out of the pocket is impressive. No deer-in-the-highlights stuff going on with 7, let alone panicky meltdowns.

 

Just watch Rob Griffin in the pocket and you'll see what I mean.

He moves very AR-like around and out of the pocket.  Now he just has to work on reading D and throwing accuracy on the move.  I didn't see him play last year but I would be curious to see what kind of runner he is in the open field when absolutely necessary.  What kind of speed does he have?

Crazy for Packer nation to be so gaga over a QB we hope never sees the field, but he's given us no choice. The the PS in TD, second in YDS, and 4th in rating among QBs throwing more than 20 passes. The eyeball test is just as exciting as the stats.

 

Guy might not see the field for 3 years, and Jameis gets to start in 9 days.

It is really easy to drool over Hundley because he's the new girl with the curl.  He's looked great in preseason but he is going against teams that are also focusing on player evaluation rather than gameplanning a starting D to stop him.  Seems there is a lot of sentiment that he is already better than Tolzein which is really naive.  He looks the part better but I'm pretty sure that if AR goes down in CHI, we would be much more at ease to see Tolzein trot in than Hundley because of ST's knowledge and experience with MM's offense.  Hundley clearly has more natural ability but you'd have to really crop the playbook down to put him in a position to succeed.  Though it does look like only a matter of time before Hundley gets the full playbook down.  Maybe by next year.  The great thing is that, like AR before him, there is no rush to pressure him into starting and he can develop on whatever time scale MM sees fit.

Yes, I think it is Hundley's natural ability that people are reacting to.  Even against vanilla schemes and players on the bubble, he shows he has the physical capability to play in this league.  The mental part will take time, but he's in the perfect place to develop that.  Also, what I love is that if the Packers need to trade Hundley some time in the future because Rodgers is still going strong, the Bears will be drooling over him and have to watch helplessly as he gets traded to an AFC team.

Good speed.  Here is his first play in college (he redshirted freshman year)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxqDEGoCxU

 

As has been said, he is in the best place of any rookie QB this year (aside from maybe Grayson in New Orleans).  No expectation to start and learn on the job, time to work with good QB coaches, a deep WR corps to throw to when he is in games (even preseason).  I think Rodgers was really helped by three years on the bench to redo his mechanics from Cal, Hundley will get the same chance here.  Only downside is we likely end up trading him in about 3 years to another team, and if he really improves, we will be playing against his talent for about 10 years thereafter.

That looked like a designed QB run.  I wonder if MM>>Clements would ever call that.  It looks like they really preach that a QB protect themselves #1 vs. running with abandon. They seem to value running for the sake of extending a play/pass over running to gain yards.  Not saying that isn't the right philosophy - it keeps the QB healthy.  Just curious if they would try to suppress that in a QB that has that kind of running ability. 

over the years we have seen plenty of guys / teams look good in preseason.....some continue on that trajectory others plateau at their preseason success.

 

Hundley looks great right now but we shall see, we shall see.  My old memory is not what it used to be but I recall #12 did not look all world 10 yrs ago. 

Da Score! Best radio station on planet earth...during the Bears season.

 My old memory is not what it used to be but I recall #12 did not look all world 10 yrs ago. 

He did not at all.  I remember seeing him in person in his 2nd or 3rd season PS game and he looked like a bust.  Nothing jumped out at you on the field and he kind of moped around the sideline off the field.  But he was on his way up and peaked later.  Is Hundley peaking early?  So soon to say.

Then again, the Packers could clear the way for Hundley by trading away their starting QB to an AFC team like maybe the Jets or something like that....  Naaahhh, the Packers would never trade a future HOF QB to another team to make room for a younger guy, would they??? 

I dunno.  Is there context to this scenario?

The Packers have to be pleased. He proved he can play, make all the throws, and generally acquitted himself better than your average rookie. He'll have two of the best mentors possible in Rodgers and McCarthy. Be excited about him!

Then pray we don't see him play another down until 2016 pre-season...

 

 

Aaron helping Brett.

 

Imagine that.

 

(h/t Chilli)

Maybe when that QB is 37 or 38, they might

First of all, Hundley has looked great. He looks light years ahead of guys like Vince Young and Seneca Wallace. But until he looks competent against situations like the Seattle defense, he's still a project.

 

Rodgers turns 32 this year. In another 4 years he'll have made north of $170 million dollars in his career. He's already a Hall of Famer and it he wins another Super Bowl and another MVP, he'll enter top 5 all time conversations if he hasn't already. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see him as a guy that will hang on and play until he's 40. What would he have left to prove?

How many guys play long after they have nothing left to prove? The number is very high.

Prove?  What does Rodgers have to prove?  Have you not been following his career at all? 

As soon as Rodgers has 6 championships, then he can rest. Until then, he has a ton to prove

It's true Hundley was playing against camp bodies and backups, but so were other backup QBs we have faced this preseason and none of them looked as sharp or poised as Hundley. He played against Philly's starters with several backups on O and he still moved the ball well. He was also playing with his own backups and camp bodies which is a handicap itself.

I was very critical of him during TC, but he looked like a different player in these games. I didn't see the accuracy or the poise in TC, but he show both in preseason games. The future looks very bright. I want to see what he does next preseason with a full year under his belt, he could be very good!

"Hundley was playing against camp bodies and backups"

Tolzien was playing in a 4th pre-season game and looked like ****. 

 

It's still Rodgers, Tozien, Hundley.

 

Nobody's anointing him, but its fun to be exited about Hundley. Looks like he's learning the playbook, has a NFL arm, and adds another dimension. He's approaching the Matt Hasselbeck August "hey he can play" feeling!!!