Viking fans burning their jerseys caused the fire!
@YATittle posted:Did Gary have three sacks? How many snaps was he out there?
Yes, 3. Seemed to be out there a lot.
Biggest plus of the game was MLF realizing that going for 2 down 14 points gave the Packers a better shot at winning the game then playing for the tie and seeing what happens in OT. Conventional wisdom says to kick the extra point, score another touchdown, kick that extra point and tie the game at 17-17. Theoretically, the Packers scored those last two touchdowns would have the momentum as they likely would be heading into overtime. But this obscures one crucial point, the goal is to win the game, not tie it. Tying the game simply means you're asking your Joe Barry defense to make another stop and your offense to put together a third scoring drive, rather than two. If overtime is involved, this brings a coin flip into the equation, where your offense must score a third touchdown (if you win the toss) or make a stop and then kick a field goal (if you lose the toss).If the 2-point try was successful, the Packers would now trail 17-11, and another touchdown plus an extra point wins you the game. What's more statistically likely: putting together three consecutive scoring drives (7 + 7 + 3) or converting one 2-point conversion (8 + 7)? If the Packers' 2-point try didn't work, keeping their deficit at 17-9, that didn't doom their hopes. It's still a one-possession game at that point. A touchdown and a 2-point conversion ties the game, leaving the Packers exactly where they'd been had they just kicked the PAT. But even if you miss both 2 point conversions, your still OK. Remember, kicking two extra points still requires three scoring drives to win -- TD, TD, FG. But missing both 2-point tries still leaves you with a chance to win the game in three drives in this scenario -- 6 + 6 + 3 gives you 15 points, enough to erase a 14-point deficit.
@titmfatied posted:
Man, do these, "reporters" all take turns reading the same 3 questions off of an index card? What a bunch of parrots.
Slobknocker sums it up in 500 words or less.
@SteveLuke posted:Musgrave is the best receiving TE since ...?
Jermichael Finley
Attachments
@Slobknocker posted:Biggest plus of the game was MLF realizing that going for 2 down 14 points gave the Packers a better shot at winning the game then playing for the tie and seeing what happens in OT. Conventional wisdom says to kick the extra point, score another touchdown, kick that extra point and tie the game at 17-17. Theoretically, the Packers scored those last two touchdowns would have the momentum as they likely would be heading into overtime. But this obscures one crucial point, the goal is to win the game, not tie it. Tying the game simply means you're asking your Joe Barry defense to make another stop and your offense to put together a third scoring drive, rather than two. If overtime is involved, this brings a coin flip into the equation, where your offense must score a third touchdown (if you win the toss) or make a stop and then kick a field goal (if you lose the toss).If the 2-point try was successful, the Packers would now trail 17-11, and another touchdown plus an extra point wins you the game. What's more statistically likely: putting together three consecutive scoring drives (7 + 7 + 3) or converting one 2-point conversion (8 + 7)? If the Packers' 2-point try didn't work, keeping their deficit at 17-9, that didn't doom their hopes. It's still a one-possession game at that point. A touchdown and a 2-point conversion ties the game, leaving the Packers exactly where they'd been had they just kicked the PAT. But even if you miss both 2 point conversions, your still OK. Remember, kicking two extra points still requires three scoring drives to win -- TD, TD, FG. But missing both 2-point tries still leaves you with a chance to win the game in three drives in this scenario -- 6 + 6 + 3 gives you 15 points, enough to erase a 14-point deficit.
I was told there would be no math.....
@titmfatied posted:
Always appreciate you posting this stuff. Itâs one stop shopping.
++++ 4th Quarter. Love is cooler than cool and does not get rattled. WE FRICKING WON!!! Rashan Gary! Patrick Taylor's pass blocking was good. Going for the 2 point conversion and getting it. vikings lose and about as minnesota viking as it gets, Jefferson and Hockenson get hurt and Kark gets picked, all in the last minute. NO kicker making a 59 yarder FG attempt in pre game practice, pushes one to the right. There's your dagger!!! Bears getting shellacked in Arrowhead.
---- First three quarters. Way too many penalties! Lots of drops, bad passes and some wrong route running. 4th and short and we cannot convert. Where was DIlllon, there? People calling for MLF's job. Loins won. Soft Defense in the first half cost us.
Whoa Nellie!
This angle of the Doubs sideline catch from the Packers IG is ridiculous pic.twitter.com/wwiIKIoU1H
â Poor Manâs Packers Podcast (@PMPPod) September 24, 2023
@H5 posted:This angle of the Doubs sideline catch from the Packers IG is ridiculous pic.twitter.com/wwiIKIoU1H
â Poor Manâs Packers Podcast (@PMPPod) September 24, 2023
Wow there is a lot to disect there.
Just setting aside the release for a second. He gets clear of the DB, turns to locate the ball, which is already in the air, looks back at the sideline to see how much room he has, then looks back up for the ball that he had to extend for and keep his feet in bounds. Damn, kid!
And beat The Honey Badger too.
It's amazing to me how they can track the ball with the stands being the backdrop.
Not like the hitters eye in baseball for sure.
I was curious, âĨïļâs passer rating was 66.4. Donât really care nowâĶâĶTHEY WON.
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Gutsy win and good way to start our schedule of home games.
Doubs
Gary
Minnesnowta Viqueens being 0-3
Our home game on Thursday will give us an early opportunity to be in first place in the division. Iâm sure many people would have thought this was impossible with all the rookies on this team.
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Giving up a special teams td
Being without so many key players already in this young season. Letâs get âem healthy!
I thought many of Loveâs throws were not very precise. Granted, the receivers bear some of the blame here, but I see room for improvement.
AJ Dillon is just not getting it done.
Is it me, or do our gunners on punt coverage look like they are running in mud ?
Invasive weeds win the day.
Biggest negative:
Way too many self inflicted mistakes. Too many penalties, too many times Love and his fellow skill position players not on same page.
Biggest Positive:
Despite their sloppiness they played hard and today that perseverence got them a surprise victory over a shorthanded and tired Saints team.
Overall, it was kind of a crummy football game to watch with both teams missing a bunch of starters. Despite being an ugly game it had a beautiful ending.
Heard Tom hurt a knee. Any update?
@Packiderm posted:Heard Tom hurt a knee. Any update?
I just finished searching the interwebs about that. Nothing whatsoever as of yet
It's one thing to have your first year starter playing with half an offense of rookies and 2nd year guys. It's another thing when it's the whole offense after injuries take out all the vets.
It shouldn't have been a surprise that Love struggled vs a hot D in the first half. It's much more encouraging that he and MLF figured out how to succeed in the 4th.
And it's easy to miss but the D kept it close enough to keep the O within striking distance.
Major Plus.... had the Packers lost,I would not have just found myself dancing by myself to Phil Collins and Genesis in my office. Sorry young people. I hope you can discover them some day!
The best record by a coach in NFL history:
Matthew Patrick LaFleur
Any news on Tomâs injury? If he and Valentine is hurt too, then thatâs the first negative.
We won is a positive.
I thought they couldn't dance.
- oline play
+ oline stepped up in the 4th quarter
- Love's deep throws were crap
+Love was nails in the 4th quarter.
- Deguara
+ It's going to be so fun to watch this receiving core mature with Love
-Why does Dillon dive so much?
+Love's sideline run where the Saints thought he'd just step OOB
- Gary is going to demand a gazillion dollars
+the booth prepping the world for the first opening game at Lambeau loss
@Slobknocker posted:Biggest plus of the game was MLF realizing that going for 2 down 14 points gave the Packers a better shot at winning the game then playing for the tie and seeing what happens in OT.
People rip analytics but this is what happens when you use them - coach makes the right decision. Conventional wisdom says push off a decision to win the game as long as possible. History and math says you make the decision ASAP.
They lose this game with ARod. Can't explain it, but the team seemed to give up when things weren't going right. Seems the opposite with Love.
Biggest negative for me was turning the game over to Denver-Miami once went down 17-0. And the Broncos were such a train wreck I couldn't look away. So I missed the comeback 
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And you call yourself a fan! 
@SteveLuke posted:.- - - - - NEGATIVE.
Degaura could get cut tomorrow and no one would notice..
WHOOO?!?!??
Does DeGuara have pictures of Gutey with farm animals or something?!??