Good luck with your conspiracy theory tomorrow bdj, should go over well.
ilcuqui posted:DH13 posted:ilcuqui posted:That's the point, DH. Brady has done this comeback thing in Super Bowls for forever. He just gets dialed in. Montana was the same way but had a far better surrounding cast. Bart is still my all time clutch QB but don't be putzing Brady. Not after what he just did.
I'm sorry but no. You don't need to be "dialed in" to hit open receivers. It helps when the other team forgets how to play because they panicked. Brady had zero pressure on the last two drives and hit open guys. I am now ready to crown Brady's ass as goat but let's not pretend he did anything any average passers couldn't do on the last couple drives.
Your opinion, fine. My opinion is that he had to be practically perfect as did his WRs. 25 points down and barely a quarter left. Atlanta put the game there to be taken and Brady grabbed it by the throat. If you are trying to tell me that average quarterbacks in this setting will do that well I guess the league MVP is below average. And that average QBs will respond under pressure the way Brady has since he came into the league. Whatever.
What he did before this game matters zero. You're comparing him to Ryan why? Did you see any open ATL receivers in the 4th? Did Ryan have a clean pocket in the 4th? The entire ATL team and coaches choked. Brady closed the deal. Oh what a performance. Please.
Kind of sad that James White not MVP. He played a heck of a game... the entire game.
I can't even begin to possibly fathom what the few Falcon fans are dealing with tonight. It's like Bostick dropping the same onside kick three times after three attempts.
There is no possible way Atlanta loses this Super Bowl. It's not possible.
They did.
Dude wins 5 Super Bowls and still gets shat on on x4.
I don't like NE one bit, agree with Chilli about BB, and am really agnostic about Brady. That is I don't really love him or hate him. But this Brady is nothing special trope intrigues me.
Atlanta lost this game. Don't play up Brady.
It is possible, just maybe, that Atlanta gave the game away and Brady played superbly when he needed to. Maybe.
I have NO love for the Pats, and generally despise their fans, but there's nothing wrong with saying Brady played a great game.
He had a woefully under-performing OL, absolutely no running game to lean on, and missing a main weapon. He made some poor decisions and throws. And yet, he still pulled out a victory. In the crunchiest of crunch time on the crunchiest stage.
For **** sakes stop with the Brady Blow Job. Ok! ****. **** Brady. Julio Jones makes a grab for first and 10 at the 22 with 4:30 left in the 4th up by 8 and Matt Ryan takes a sack for 12 yards on second down and then they get a holding call on third down. Throw the ****ing ball away Matt. Anything. You can't take a sack there.
Stop with the Brady love unless you're going to heap tons of love and hugs on Russ Wilson for his feverish all out effort to beat Green Bay in 2014. Ok?
packerboi posted:If anyone in Vegas bet this game would end in overtime (something that's never happened), they will be buying rounds at the bar for a long, long time.
Since you can bet on damn near anything in Vegas, I assume you could bet a SB would go to overtime and get some pretty nice odds.
It was +650. Not as good as you would think.
Atlanta ran 46 plays. New England ran 96. Brady had nearly as many completions (43) as Atlanta had plays. 40 minutes TOP vs 23. If Atlanta had the ball for more than 10 or 12 minutes in the 2nd half I'd be shocked. Look no further for a reason why Brady could just drop back, twiddle his thumbs, tie his shoes and then throw a completion to another wide open receiver out of the backfield in the 3rd and 4th quarter.
There were dozens of things Atlanta had to do wrong to lose this game and they managed to accomplish each and every one.
What was it, 28-9 when NE did the onsides kick? They got the ball on the NE 40 yard line and managed to punt. They got the ball to the 32, had a hold, a sack and then a punt. They managed to do the same damn thing when it was 28-20.
Hey SF fans, good luck with Kyle Shanahan. His gameplan the 2nd half was atrocious.
Lastly, did I hear Brady won MVP unanimously? WTF? White had 3 TDs, 14 catches and 135+ yards. I realize there's just no way he's going to win, but to not even receive a single vote? What a joke.
ilcuqui posted:Dude wins 5 Super Bowls and still gets shat on on x4.
I don't like NE one bit, agree with Chilli about BB, and am really agnostic about Brady. That is I don't really love him or hate him. But this Brady is nothing special trope intrigues me.
All the inferiority complexes in here are making it smell like Minnesota.
5 Rings. Chances are we won't see that again in our lifetimes
You're so clever. Your wit is legendary in you household isn't it?
But Seattle won and then **** the bed. Then so did Atlanta. So you can take your inferiority complex and shove it up your ass.
Chances are better we won't see another dumbass like you In our lifetime.
BrainDed posted:ilcuqui posted:Dude wins 5 Super Bowls and still gets shat on on x4.
I don't like NE one bit, agree with Chilli about BB, and am really agnostic about Brady. That is I don't really love him or hate him. But this Brady is nothing special trope intrigues me.
All the inferiority complexes in here are making it small like Minnesota.
5 Rings. Chances are we won't see that again in our lifetimes
Twenty five years of Favre and Rodgers and we have two. Terrible management by GM's, terrible.
Haha. You're really taking this BB / Brady hate to a new level. Is it because you've never succeeded at anything in life and hate to see others prosper?
Im here for you big guy.
Tschmack posted:Good Lord why are you such an insufferable douchebag?
I didn't pay that much attention until it started getting late, but a lot of really dumb coaching decisions, especially that 3rd and 1 shotgun formation setting up the fumble.
Getting out of FG range at 28-20 was another series of dum. Somehow I don't think Gary Anderson would have showed up there.
Fedya posted:Getting out of FG range at 28-20 was another series of dum.
First down at the 20 with under four minutes left. The Falcon self-destruction that took them out of FG range at that point lost the game, IMO.
Somehow the Packers choke in Seattle doesn't seem so bad anymore.
I wonder IF the Pack D stiffened in the key moments and If Rodgers and company made big players in a 25 point comback led by a successful NFL coach would we be saying it was a comeback for the ages? Or would we be calling it out as a choke?
I suspect more of the former and not Much of the latter. It was a fun, entertaining game, to me that's all that matters.
They mentioned that there was one hour 6 minutes between offensive plays for Atlanta between the first and second halves. It made me think about how different things were between the halves after the blackout in the Ravens 9ers SB.
Biggest choke job I've ever saw. Brady did what he had to with the opportunities presented, but he got A LOT of help. Some unbelievable catches off bounces, White going MVP, and lastly ATL going McCarthy and Capers with a lead.
28 - 3
28 - 34
Brady's 4th quarter was magical. Not many QB's can do that. Atl is stupid and dommed this up royally, but for ****s sake, to not acknowledge what Brady did is crazy.
Takes two to Tango. Ryan makes bone head plays late after getting in field goal range. Brady finishes a historic comeback. You needed both.
Dave in GA posted:I will follow that up with the fact that I will be a little smug with all of the viking fans at work that jumped on the Falcons bandwagon..maybe their crappy mojo helped with the biggest choke job in SB history...at least I will think of it that way!!! good night from GA!!!
That right there is why the Falcons lost. Vikings fans jumping on the bandwagon and cursing them.
Or maybe it was Arthur Blank leaving his luxury box early to go on the sideline and stand holding the hand of his younger trophy wife. Shots of them as the meltdown occurred were priceless.... no dancing tonight, Arthur, if you know what I mean and I KNOW you do.
I'm not a Patriots fan, but I was on their side last night. Don't like the Falcons or their bandwagon fans, same feelings I have toward Seattle and their fans. I respect the Patriots though, they win and that's really what it comes down to. I think Brady got screwed by the league, they had no evidence he did anything they accused him of, but he was convicted anyway. I'm glad the Patriots shoved it in Goodell's pie hole, fukk that guy. Be as jealous as you want of BB or Brady, but they're two of the all time greats and whether you think Brady sucked or won the game, he's got the ring and that's all that matters. He did enough.
I really don't care one way or the other about Brady and his perception or any of that. I do want to point out that Atlanta dropped multiple interceptions and committed multiple drive extending penalties on defense. If one of those calls are not made or one of those catches made....different story.
But that's not what happened. Congratulations to the Patriots....
Ultimate team sport.
Patriots’ margins in their seven Super Bowls played under Bill Belichick: 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 6. Last night was the “rout."
— Peter King (@SI_PeterKing) February 6, 2017
Hungry5 posted:Dr.-Ka-Bong posted:Curious if Atlanta is going to Dom Capers this game til the end or just keep playing good defense
With their running game it probably won't come to that.
Double-whammy. Capers hex from Bonger and my compliment of the ATL run game that they McCarthy'd when up 8 and at the NE 23 with just over 4 minutes to play. 3 runs for 0 yards likely gives them an 11 pt lead with under 3 minutes to play.
for me, I told my wife the game is over when i saw the owner on the sidelines, he was the kiss of death
The GBP Rules posted:Atlanta ran 46 plays. New England ran 96. Brady had nearly as many completions (43) as Atlanta had plays. 40 minutes TOP vs 23. If Atlanta had the ball for more than 10 or 12 minutes in the 2nd half I'd be shocked. Look no further for a reason why Brady could just drop back, twiddle his thumbs, tie his shoes and then throw a completion to another wide open receiver out of the backfield in the 3rd and 4th quarter.
Can't play defense when you are gassed, have to be able to get off the field. Pack couldn't do against ATL couldn't force the TO either, and now ATL couldn't do either against the Pats.
Watching AR12 pick them apart when he did have time, you just knew Brady could do the same thing.
The game turned really on 2 plays. The Ryan sack when they were at the 22 up by 8 is one that everyone is talking about for good reason - just run the damn ball. Or how about lob the ball to Julio Jones? I don't think he got another target after that - how do you let that happen as an OC?
The other play that hasn't been discussed as much was Tevin Coleman getting hurt on 2nd and 3 with Atlanta driving up 16. There was a long delay and then Devonte Freeman came in on 3rd and 2. Shanahan called a play that ended up requiring the back (now Freeman at 5'9") to pick up Hightower. Freeman didn't even touch him and Hightower got the strip sack. If Coleman doesn't get hurt, that strip sack probably doesn't happen.
The talk of Brady being the GOAT and Belichick being the greatest coach in history....is going to be rampant. Gonna be a tough time for some.
On the other hand, the NFLFU just passed the LII torch to Minnesota. This could be fun watching them screw it up.
Grave Digger posted:I'm not a Patriots fan, but I was on their side last night. Don't like the Falcons or their bandwagon fans, same feelings I have toward Seattle and their fans. I respect the Patriots though, they win and that's really what it comes down to. I think Brady got screwed by the league, they had no evidence he did anything they accused him of, but he was convicted anyway. I'm glad the Patriots shoved it in Goodell's pie hole, fukk that guy. Be as jealous as you want of BB or Brady, but they're two of the all time greats and whether you think Brady sucked or won the game, he's got the ring and that's all that matters. He did enough.
I am not a fan of the Pats either but I will admit I was rooting for them last night. The first reason is that if the Packers aren't in the Super Bowl I always root for the AFC. I guess you could call it jealousy. And the second reason was that I wanted to see the Pats make Goodell as uncomfortable as possible.
I for one do think that Brady is the best ever because honestly with the exception of players like Moss and Gronk who has he had that you would say is great? The dude is as cool as Montana and just gets it done.
I cannot stand BB the person but you have to hand it to him he figures it out more often than not. He finds a way defensively to take you out of your game with players that are good but really not that great. And is notorious for completely changing what you see from week to week.
MichiganPacker posted:Shanahan called a play that ended up requiring the back (now Freeman at 5'9") to pick up Hightower. Freeman didn't even touch him and Hightower got the strip sack. If Coleman doesn't get hurt, that strip sack probably doesn't happen.
Even if Freeman was 5'4" 140 pounds he should have made that block. Just getting in the way and forcing Hightower to run him over would have slowed him up enough. I don't know how he could have missed that, it was obvious Hightower was coming and Freeman looked like he just decided that blocking air would be more effective. The tackle wasn't going to pick up Hightower because Ninkovich was lined up over him. They had the perfect protection and Freeman was in the right spot to pick up the blitzer and he just blew it. I have to agree that if Coleman (or just about any other running back) is in the game then Hightower isn't a factor in the play.