There is NFW they have Hundley as the #2 QB. Tolzien may not be the guy but it will someone else, not named Hundley, if Tolzien is released.
After the QB debacle of a couple years back they'll never go back to 2 QBs. Also, I expect roster expansion in the next few years.
I expect someone on that list will be injured
I hope they just go with 2 QB's. Not in favor of keeping Tolzien over a Janis, Elliot or this years Rolle.
It's like buying a lottery ticket and dreaming of all the millions when really it's more like hitting on an occasional 100 buck scratch off.
Good thing is a 100 dollar scratch off is enough to put you over the top for the week.
Unless you're building a new stadium with it.
If he can run at all with pro receivers I wouldn't be surprised to see Gunter make the squad. I read somewhere that Schneider and the Sedahawks were very interested in him but he chose Green Bay.
Gunter said the Sam Shields story helped him make the pick of the Packers. Really like his size and if he can play faster than his 40 time he's got a shot.
After the QB debacle of a couple years back they'll never go back to 2 QBs. Also, I expect roster expansion in the next few years.
How much more of a chance do we have to win a game with Tolzien compared to the rookie?
I'm guessing Tolzien over rookie moves the point spread by 1, maybe 2, points at the most. Is that worth letting go of another young player who shows potential and is cost controlled for a couple years?
I say no, roll the dice with the Rook this year and certainly the next 2 after that. 2016 and 2017.
24 Dudes...fighting for the last 6 roster spots.
Offense
Justin Perillo
Kennard Backman
Myles White
Raijon Neal
Crockett
Alonso Harris
Jeremy Vujnovich
Lane Taylor
Matt Rotheram
Garth Gerhart
Matt Blanchard
Ripkowski
Defense
Bruce Gaston
Nate Palmer
Joe Thomas
Tavares Dantzler
Jayrone Elliott
Vaughters
Mulumba
Hubbard
D. Goodson
Tay Glover-Wright
La Darius Gunter
Banjo
I expect Ripkowski to be a core special teamer and probably more likely Kuhn gets cut, although I expect them to keep both. Love for Thorton and Bradford appears to be based on little more than draft position and both need to demonstrate they can even play at the NFL level.
Really interested to see the RB competition and the #3 RB position appears wide open.
I expect Ripkowski to push Eddie Lacy.
Push.
Pull.
Drag.
Bring him a soda and some chips after a TD.
Any will do.
Vision is the innate ability to see things that are invisible to others
Some have it, most don't
Rat Pack has demonstrated his vision...while others in this thread have demonstrated... something else.
I have an invisible freind.
it's all good as long as its not a friend
Her name is Mary Jo and she's invisible!
It's a beter speler then I am. And gramer to.
The fools at AcmePackingCompany came up with their own roster.....and dared to disagree with me!!!
Rob Demovsky's Roster Projection
He's got both Bradford and Thornton getting cut, which wouldn't surprise me at all.
I'm waiting on sschumer, his roster predictions are usually spot on
Also - Any roster prediction that lists Clay Matthews as an ILB is instantly thrown out the window in my world.
My Mock Consensus board has Clay lining up as a substitution at ILB on rushing downs. On passing downs he rotates with Perry, Elliott, and soon to be acquired by trade Mercedes Lewis in order to protect to his health.
In light of recent events, here's my unreasonably early update:
QB | Aaron Rodgers | Scott Tolzien | Brett Hundley | |||
RB | Eddie Lacy | James Starks | Raijon Neal | |||
FB | John Kuhn | Aaron Ripkowski | ||||
WR | Jordy Nelson | Randall Cobb | Davante Adams | Jeff Janis | Ty Montgomery | |
TE | Richard Rodgers | Justin Perillo | Kennard Backman |
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LT | David Bahktiari | J.C. Tretter | ||||
LG | T.J. Lang | Matt Rotherham | ||||
C | Corey Linsley | J.C. Tretter | ||||
RG | Josh Sitton | Matt Rotherham | ||||
RT | Bryan Bulaga | Don Barclay | ||||
LE | Mike Daniels | Datone Jones* | Letroy Guion | |||
NT | B.J. Raji | Letroy Guion | ||||
RE | Josh Boyd | Khyri Thorton | Christian Ringo | |||
LOLB | Julius Peppers | Mike Neal | Adrian Hubbard | |||
LILB | Sam Barrington | Jake Ryan | ||||
RILB | Carl Bradford | Nate Palmer | ||||
ROLB | Clay Matthews | Nick Perry | Adrian Hubbard | |||
CB | Sam Shields | Casey Hayward | Damarious Randall | Quentin Rollins | LaDarius Gunter | |
FS | HaHa Clinton-Dix | Micah Hyde | Chris Banjo | |||
SS | Morgan Burnett | Sean Richardson | Chris Banjo | |||
K | Mason Crosby | |||||
P | Tim Masthay | |||||
LS | Brett Goode | |||||
KR | Ty Montgomery | Micah Hyde | ||||
PR | Ty Montgomery | Micah Hyde | ||||
Analysis:
QB - Same
RB - Crockett's hurt, could be a settlement. Neal has the upperhand at the moment.
WR - Abbredumdum's brain is now spaghetti. The people's hero himself Jeff Janis steps in.
TE - If Quarless gets suspended, then they'll keep Backman/Perillo and then he comes back they'll have to rock-paper-scissors over their roster spot.
OL - Same, perhaps Barclay at backup LT.
DL - **** Goalline.
LB - Matthews is listed as OLB but subs in at ILB (Am I the only one who doesn't think that's so bad?)
DB - Gunterolle over Goodson, Banjo climbs on board at least initially
ST - Same
Per the camp tweets yesterday, it seems Palmer is running with the ones at ILB when Matthews lines up at OLB
Many times the coaches want to get some film early in camp - both for teaching purposes and to see if the players show improvement over time.
So we'll see lots of guys in new and different spots as they look for the winning combination - not only in terms of starters, but in case somebody gets dinged during the season.
I've got Gunter in for sure, Thorton out even with the suspensions on the DL. Ringo playing bigger role than people expect in regular season.
Yeah, Gunter sure does appear to close to a lock at this point. I'd be a little surprised if either Thorton or Bradford survived the final cut.
Harris and Neal are having a pretty good battle for the #3 RB. Neal may have the edge simply because of his ability to catch the ball. After Rodgers TE appears to be pretty wide open. Based on the ST work Mitchell Henry is getting he may have a real shot to stick.
The mind reels.
I'm starting to wonder if Hayward may be in some serious competition for starting time with Randall, Gunter and the yet to be seen Rollins.
Especially if his nagging injuries start up again.
Rollins is gonna compete inside with Hyde per team comments
Randall, Hayward, Goodson, Gunter will battle for the spot opposite Shields
Also read that they move Shields around, shadowing # 1 instead of staying on one side of the field as he has in the past
Ripkowski is the reason we will stand pat on TE. We are not ditching Kuhn yet.
Here's the depth chart I observed:
Outside CB: Shields, Hayward, Randall, Gunter, Goodson
Slot CB: Hyde, Hayward, Rollins
Bradford didn't get much PT the last couple days. He's not a lock to make the roster, much less start.
Don't count out Packers' WR Myles White
Interesting roster-related piece from Demovsky. White is a guy that I really haven't even considered for making the cut and perhaps I should.
Quarterbacks: (3)
12 Rodgers, Aaron QB 6-2 225 31 11 California
16 Tolzien, Scott QB 6-2 213 27 5 Wisconsin
7 Hundley, Brett QB 6-3 226 21 R UCLA
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Running Backs: (4)
27 Lacy, Eddie RB 5-11 230 24 3 Alabama
44 Starks, James RB 6-2 218 29 6 Buffalo
22 Ripkowski, Aaron FB 6-1 246 22 R Oklahoma
38 John Crockett RB 6-0 217 23 R North Dakota State
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Offensive Line: (9)
69 Bakhtiari, David T 6-4 310 23 3 Colorado
71 Sitton, Josh G 6-3 318 28 8 Central Florida
63 Linsley, Corey C 6-3 301 23 2 Ohio State
70 Lang, T.J. G 6-4 318 27 7 Eastern Michigan
75 Bulaga, Bryan T 6-5 314 26 6 Iowa
73 Tretter, JC C/G 6-4 307 24 3 Cornell
67 Barclay, Don T/G 6-4 305 26 4 West Virginia
68 Ebbele, Fabbians T 6-8 315 R Arizona
79 Walker, Josh G 6-5 329 22 1 Middle Tennessee State
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Tight End: (3)
81 Quarless, Andrew TE 6-4 252 26 6 Penn State
89 Rodgers, Richard TE 6-4 257 23 2 California
86 Backman, Kennard TE 6-3 245 22 R Alabama-Birmingham
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Wide Receiver: (5)
87 Nelson, Jordy WR 6-3 217 29 8 Kansas State
18 Cobb, Randall WR 5-10 192 24 5 Kentucky
17 Adams, Davante WR 6-1 215 22 2 Fresno State
88 Montgomery, Ty WR 6-0 216 22 R Stanford
83 Janis, Jeff WR 6-3 219 23 2 Saginaw Valley State
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Special Teams: (3)
2 Crosby, Mason K 6-1 207 30 9 Colorado
8 Masthay, Tim P 6-1 200 28 6 Kentucky
61 Goode, Brett LS 6-1 255 30 8 Arkansas
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Defensive Line: (6)
76 Daniels, Mike DT 6-0 305 26 4 Iowa
98 Guion, Letroy DT 6-4 315 27 8 Florida State
90 Raji, B.J. DT 6-2 337 28 7 Boston College
95 Jones, Datone DE 6-4 285 24 3 UCLA
99 Gaston, Bruce DT 6-2 310 23 1 Purdue
93 Boyd, Josh DT 6-3 310 25 3 Mississippi State
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Linebackers: (10)
52 Matthews, Clay OLB 6-3 255 28 7 Southern California
56 Peppers, Julius OLB 6-7 287 35 14 North Carolina
58 Barrington, Sam LB 6-1 240 24 3 South Florida
47 Ryan, Jake LB 6-2 240 23 R Michigan
96 Neal, Mike OLB 6-3 285 27 6 Purdue
54 Bradford, Carl LB 6-1 252 22 2 Arizona State
43 James Vaughters LB 6-2 254 21 R Stanford
57 Tavarus Dantzler OLB 6-2 240 23 R Bethune-Cookman
91 Elliott, Jayrone OLB 6-3 255 23 2 Toledo
49 Hubbard, Adrian OLB 6-6 257 23 1 Alabama
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Defensive Backs (10)
37 Shields, Sam CB 5-11 184 27 6 Miami (Fla.)
29 Hayward, Casey CB 5-11 192 25 4 Vanderbilt
21 Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha S 6-1 208 22 2 Alabama
33 Hyde, Micah DB 6-0 197 24 3 Iowa
42 Burnett, Morgan S 6-1 209 26 6 Georgia Tech
23 Randall, Damarious CB 5-11 196 22 R Arizona State
24 Rollins, Quinten CB 6-1 203 22 R Miami (Ohio)
28 Richardson, Sean S 6-2 216 25 4 Vanderbilt
39 Goodson, Demetri CB 5-11 195 26 2 Baylor
36 Ladarius Gunter CB 6-2 201 R U of Miami
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Players who I believe may jump in: Alonzo Harris, Jean Fanor, Mark Rotherham, Jeremy Vujnovich.
Players who I believe may bounce out: Sam Barrington, John Crockett, Mike Neal, Don Barclay.
John Kuhn isn't getting cut. I think Rip makes the 53 but unless 30 gets hurt he's playing this season. MM and A. Rodgers aren't about breaking up the band this time around.
Pennel is going to stick, also. At least until Guion's suspension situation sorts itself out.
I know TT loves his draftees. But Carl Bradford isn't making this team unless he shows things he hasn't shown since coming to GB.