The Bears management congratulating themselves:
The Bears fans reaction:
Where's @BearBite to post some selective stats to show how good Dalton is?
If the CBS story is true that the Bears offered Mack, Hicks, 3 ist round and a 3rd round draft choice for Wilson they would have sucked for years.
@ammo posted:I doubt it. Dalton playoff games, 4. Record 0-4. TD passes, 1 total. INT, 6! Completion % 55.7. Chances of Bears making playoffs with Dalton, not good. Chance of winning a playoff game, 0!
If Dalton is worth $10 million there are a bunch of QBs worth $40 million.
My comment was less about any praise of Dalton and more of an indictment of the Bears previous “QB room”.
@ammo posted:If the CBS story is true that the Bears offered Mack, Hicks, 3 ist round and a 3rd round draft choice for Wilson they would have sucked for years.
If the Bears offered that for Rodgers, would Gutey have taken it?
@ammo posted:If the CBS story is true that the Bears offered Mack, Hicks, 3 ist round and a 3rd round draft choice for Wilson they would have sucked for years.
If you look at the string of events involved with this, the desperation that the Bears are at to find a QB is stunning. To get Mack, they gave up two first-round picks. To get Trubisky, they used a first-round pick and traded 2 third-round and 1 fourth-round pick to do it. Adding this to the rumored Wilson package you end up with the following:
If the Wilson trade would have gone through, over the course of 4 years the Bears would have invested 6 first-round picks, 3 third-round picks, 1 fourth-round pick and Akeem Hicks to try to find their QB and they would have ended up with a 33-year-old QB whose already been sacked enough to be top 20 all-time in sacks taken. He's been in the top 4 in sacks taken for 6 years in a row.
If Pete Carroll wasn't 70 years old, he'd have probably pulled the trigger. Hicks, Mack, Bobby Wagner, and Jamal Adams on a defensive unit? That would have been crazy. They'd have been terrible on offense, but they aren't likely to be that good anyway.
@PackLandVA posted:My comment was less about any praise of Dalton and more of an indictment of the Bears previous “QB room”.
Aren't Andy Dalton, Kirk Cousins, and Jared Goff all basically the same player?
None of them are terrible and they are all capable of making enough plays when surrounded by elite WR or RB talent to beat you.
Dalton is the best contract by far. Cousins (31 million) and Goff (25 million) have big cap hits.
@Henry posted:That's Bill O'Brien desperation but worse.
I still can't believe that Bears offer was real and, that if it was, that Carroll didn't take it.
How were the Bears going to replace their biggest pass rush threat and their key run-stuffer without top picks or cap space? Did they expect Russell Wilson was going to put up 40 points a game throwing to one good receiving threat (Robinson) and handing the ball off to D. Montgomery (basically a decent back, but a Jamaal Williams type)? They'd have had to average 40, because that's what their defense would have given up.
@ammo posted:If the CBS story is true that the Bears offered Mack, Hicks, 3 ist round and a 3rd round draft choice for Wilson they would have sucked for years.
WOW! I don't believe the story.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:If the Bears offered that for Rodgers, would Gutey have taken it?
Yes, but Murphy would shut it down.
It would have been like that old Bears D that Rodgers threw six TDs against.... Chris Conte, we miss you.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:If the Bears offered that for Rodgers, would Gutey have taken it?
Probably.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:
If the Bears offered that for Rodgers, would Gutey have taken it?
Would be hard to pass on. That's 2 very impactful players on D and a lot of draft capital to build with. Love would be ready enough today with a DEF of Mack, Hicks, Z, P, KC, Jaire, Savage, Amos... and an OFF of Adams, Jones, Tonyan, Dillon, Lazard, MVS, and the OL, Then add the Bears r1 this year (#20) and their own r1 (#29) and they could get 2 more impact players on day 1.
I'd do it.
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Rodgers won the league MVP award last season. Wilson not so much.
I would be asking for more. I would have to think about how much more, and he would still be in our division.
If Rodgers was with the bears those 3 firsts and the 3rd rounder would be a lot lower picks.
@PackerHawk posted:Where's @BearBite to post some selective stats to show how good Dalton is?
Since BearBite refuses to answer, I will give it a shot.
Andy Dalton has one thing in common with all other NFL QBs – and that is he also plays QB. Dalton is 1 of 2 QBs to suit up for 11 games last season and 1 of 3 to start 9 games. Came in 2nd among all QBs who started 9 games in passer rating (87.3) and TDs (14) – but was 1st in pass attempts (333), and tied for first in interceptions with 8.
As any blind man can see, he will fit right in.
Bears new QB, can likely be had on the cheap!
What would the cap hit be if they cut Dalton in favor of Watson?
Ginger Cutler already told he’s the starter
Watson is urinating kerosene on the Texan's five alarm dumpster fire.
Allegedly.
That picture of Mike Glennon makes it look like he would eat cereal out of a human skull in his backwoods cabin.
Meanwhile in Chicago...
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Getting philosophical, wasn't the debut of Kahlil Mack on Sunday Night Football just about the most perfect Bear game. He has a first half that is one for the ages, leads his team to an amazing point margin, they injure Aaron Rodgers again, yet he comes back in the second half and leads them to yet another loss. Breaking their hearts, ripping them out and stomping on them.
He could never be a Bear. Ever. He's killed them too many times.
I've always loved the '94 Halloween game.
Their field.
Buttkiss and Sayers jersey retirement ceremony.
Overcoming the horrid conditions.
Edgar was a mudder.
Defense was awesome.
And we took a giant crap all over them!
Cutler and the Bears repaid the favor on Favre’s return
And the #bears end the 16-game era with zero 4k yard seasons from a QB. Impressive run https://t.co/4Es4QTA0EH
— JB (@gridironborn) March 28, 2021
Trubisky just keeled over clutching his nut sack.
I... worked on this story for a year...and...he just... tweeted it out. https://t.co/Kor1LZJETr
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) April 15, 2021
I remember reading McMahon’s auto-biography maybe like 1986 or so and even then, he trashed the Bears organization for being too cheap. He basically put a warning out to Bears fans that things were going to go downhill after 1985.
Fortunately he was right, and we’ve never seen another World Championship from the Bears since then. Crazy that guy ended up as a clip board holder on the 1996 Packers, the best Packers team I have seen in my lifetime (too young for the Lonbardi years).
I remember when the idiot wore his Bears jersey to the white house after the Pack won the Super Bowl. What a slap in the face!
It's almost like he knew that was the only way a Bears jersey would ever be at the White House again.
I must’ve missed the memo stating Packer fans are supposed to care about what that douche bag Jim McMahon has to say, even if it is a slap to the TBSS.
