Not many strong and positive reports on our offense. Perhaps AR was right. The team brings in a new HC with a new scheme only to avoid using it during joint practices. Many needed reps don’t get worked on. THEN our KR gets hurt in a live drill.
It may be fun to have joint practices but are they really valuable this year?
me thinks Pete is smoking a lil too much green and gold...
I'm all for some optimism but he's overboard
Yeah, this joint practice was not a good idea.
Agreed on the Prisco take. It really would need to be a 2010 type scenario with the right pieces kicking in at the right time. Too many unknowns with a new offense and new faces.
I do think the defense is going to be a lot of fun though. A team can go quite a ways on a solid defense.
Prisco? Pfft. I said that in another thread yesterday.
Trophies posted:Pretty funny. I mean, the dude has been on the team for a week...
That whole Division II stuff was such a weak argument. Do you know how many top NFL players came from Division II or lower?
Kahlil Mack
Carson Wentz
Ben Roethlisberger
Danny Woodhead
Adam Vinatieri
Malcolm Butler
Tyreek Hill
Walter Payton
Gene Upshaw
Darrell Green
Nick Collins
Kurt Warner
Phil Simms
Jerry Rice
Terrell Davis
Richard Dent
Clyde Simmons
Michael Strahan
Charles Haley
Brett Favre...There are a bunch more...
Sam Mills
Everson Walls
Eugene Robinson
Rodney Harrison
Nate Newton
Adam TimmermanSeriously?
Terrell Davis went to Georgia. Collins played for Bethune Cookman, Div1. That's just at a glance. Pretty sure you better check your bullshit list.
Let's make this 100% clear. It has nothing to do the player or the division said player was in. It's your over the top, cry to for Ritalin spamming of every player being a HOFer in the first week of August. Settle the **** down.
Trophies posted:
I would not mind Gutes picking up a starting caliber OT during roster cuts or in trade.
Yes because teams out there just have starting caliber OT’s laying around for disposal 
Henry posted:Timmy! posted:michiganjoe posted:Rookie CB Lonnie Johnson, who was kicked out of practice yesterday, is not in uniform for Day 2 of joint practice between the Texans and Packers.
— Sarah Barshop (@sarahbarshop) August 6, 2019
Also a reverse Shitbird.
Don't be a shitbird, Lonnie!
Timmy! posted:Now that Spriggs is gone, the depth chart at RT looks woefully thin. I hope Light can swing both sides.
Linsley's injury is a bit concerning, as well. I don't think we have a 'natural' C other than him; the depth chart shows McCray and Madison as backups. Not sure I can trust McCray, unless he plays better at C than at G.
Hope Linsley is ok, but Jenkins was a standout C in college even though GB drafted him as a potential guard.
Tdog posted:me thinks Pete is smoking a lil too much green and gold...
I'm all for some optimism but he's overboard
I'm actually feeling very good about this team. I think they'll struggle in the first quarter of the season, especially adapting to a new offensive system with away games at two division rivals weeks one and two, but I think they'll be a team nobody wants to play by season's end. The depth is so much better, the defense is way better, and with a solid o-line (have to stay healthy), great depth and emerging talent at receiver and RB, and they have a HOF QB bent on showing experts his skills are not diminishing as some have written. If they can gain a split in their first two games, they'll be on their way.
Count me as cautiously optimistic. The one thing that makes me a little bit pessimistic is that some key guys that will start are somewhat injury prone. A few injuries to guys like Aaron Jones, Kevin King, Corey Linsley, Bryan Bulaga, and most importantly #12 not being 100% will dampen optimism in a hurry. #12 is the most important, we need a healthier version of him this year than we saw the last part of 2017 and basically all of 2018.
and at least opponents won’t know our old stale offensive plays because there should be all new offensive plays right?? New coach en all....... 
Za'Darius Smith will be a force for the Green Bay defense.
— Pete Prisco (@PriscoCBS) August 7, 2019
Pete's a bit more optimistic overall than I am about the team, but I agree completely here.
mrtundra posted:Henry posted:Timmy! posted:michiganjoe posted:Rookie CB Lonnie Johnson, who was kicked out of practice yesterday, is not in uniform for Day 2 of joint practice between the Texans and Packers.
— Sarah Barshop (@sarahbarshop) August 6, 2019
Also a reverse Shitbird.
Don't be a shitbird, Lonnie!
I'm assuming Lonnie will play tomorrow in the game......I wonder if there will be any type of retaliation from our guys. I hope not, at least nothing cheap or dirty.
I’m a fan of cheap, and dirty. Not seeing a downside there.
YooperPackfan posted:Trophies posted:
I would not mind Gutes picking up a starting caliber OT during roster cuts or in trade.
Yes because teams out there just have starting caliber OT’s laying around for disposal
Wtf? Cap casualties. Happens all the time. Like, every year, serviceable veterans cut to save dough. I know that you know this too
Jason Peters would have been such a bad pickup for us last year. While he may have been coming off an ACL, do you mean you wouldn’t want him as a backup this year? He did play in 16 games. Heading into 2019, at 36 yrs old, he’s still ranked #7 overall by PFF.
Adding a player who simply can start in a backup role at roster cut is pure madness. What was I thinking?
I did say “or in trade.”
michiganjoe posted:Za'Darius Smith will be a force for the Green Bay defense.
— Pete Prisco (@PriscoCBS) August 7, 2019Pete's a bit more optimistic overall than I am about the team, but I agree completely here.
Same here I for the first time in a long time have a ton of optimism for the defense. Going in to this year I am keeping my expectations down that way I am not let down if they suck and if they do well I am that much happier.
After seeing him live... Z Smith is a beast. I mean, this dude pitched a tent and ate breakfast in the backfield damn near every time he lined up. I figured he'd be good, but I wasn't expecting that type of performance.
Pakrz posted:After seeing him live... Z Smith is a beast. I mean, this dude pitched a tent and ate breakfast in the backfield damn near every time he lined up. I figured he'd be good, but I wasn't expecting that type of performance.
"this dude pitched a tent"
Football is a real turn on for him.
Which is refreshing to see after watching HaHa over the last several seasons.
after all that a Packer is down.......DAMN
and there it is GO PACK GO.
Goldie.
Thread awareness....thread awareness....
Statistically we lost in every category. That punt recovery by ESB to the EZ was key to the win. I am good with that.
Preseason isn't the team sport the regular season is. It's as much individual player evaluation as anything, particularly the bottom of the roster.
So, how much better is Boyle than Kizer?
Boyle>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kizer
And I watched a whole 10 minutes of tape.
Wilkins throws a better pass than Kizer. At least he did tonight.
We all know Boyle throws a better ball. But we saw this last year too. He looks great vs the 3rd stringers in the second half but goes turd burning vs the 1's when he has to read defenses and actually play QB. I hope he's developed that part of his game.
Boyle throws an accurate pass to his own team, that alone sets him apart from Kizer.
DH13 posted:We all know Boyle throws a better ball. But we saw this last year too. He looks great vs the 3rd stringers in the second half but goes turd burning vs the 1's when he has to read defenses and actually play QB. I hope he's developed that part of his game.
That's why it would be nice to see him at least get consistent work with 2's. Kizer is jumpy as shit. If he would calm down maybe he could use his talents better. He doesn't throw very well on the run either.
Kizer is terrible. He's impatient, can't feel the rush, and he is inaccurate. He is one of those guys who can run around and break your heart. I'd rather than Joe Webb in a heart beat.
Boyle has that arm. He will stand in the pocket and deliver the ball. He's completely inexperienced but his upside to me is as a starter.
If you give Boyle until he's 30, yeah he might be a starter.
Chripst, didn't Joe Webb start in that playoff vs MIN in maybe 2013?
Yep, when I saw his name I was like - wait, same Joe Webb?
I'd make Boyle the backup and put the rookie on the PS. Say goodbye to Herr Kizer.
PackerHawk posted:Yep, when I saw his name I was like - wait, same Joe Webb?
I'd make Boyle the backup and put the rookie on the PS. Say goodbye to Herr Kizer.
Same. Sometimes a guy just Hundleys it and can't deliver no matter how much you want them to do well. Boyle has an arm that can make all the throws and with touch. Give him more reps and another year. Young 'un to PS.
I believe Kizer is trying float the excuse of having 5 different offenses in his past 5 years of football , but skills (like those already mentioned) are fundamental and inherent to all offenses
What you just said.
I believe Boyle too has had a different OC each of the past 4 or 5 seasons. Lame excuse for the QB.
Fact is, regardless of 3rd or 2nd, or 1st stringers, Boyle throws a better pass.
So did Wilkins.
DH13 posted:If you give Boyle until he's 30, yeah he might be a starter.
Chripst, didn't Joe Webb start in that playoff vs MIN in maybe 2013?
Boyle isn't Kurt Warner. I just want a guy that you can say, "Hey, we won't lose all our games if Rodgers is out".
Henry posted:DH13 posted:If you give Boyle until he's 30, yeah he might be a starter.
Chripst, didn't Joe Webb start in that playoff vs MIN in maybe 2013?
Boyle isn't Kurt Warner. I just want a guy that you can say, "Hey, we won't lose all our games if Rodgers is out".
Like Matt Flynn.
