Round 3 Pick 85 Amari Rodgers WR Clemson

I guess I'll trot this out for the 1,001st time.  The difference between DA and every other developing receiver who's ever been compared to him in GB since then, is that DA showed all that he was capable of in his rookie year.  He was the best WR on the field in the playoff game vs. DAL (with peak whatshisname that didn't catch that ball) in the second half.  He was open a lot more than he got the ball too but AR went other places with it.  Getting separation off the line, breaking ankles on moves, YAC, toughness through the catch and tackle.  He was doing this his rookie year in the divisional round of the playoffs.

He needed to get more consistent with that production, and the ankle killed year #2 of that process.  But there was no wondering what he was capable of after that game and the regular season win vs. NE.  No young receiver in GB has shown that ability since then and if you see it again, it will answer a lot of questions.

Amari's already on the fast track to becoming the next Ty Montgomery.

At this rate, he's on the fast track to Minny.

X4 whipping boy

Davante Adams  also received extensive criticism here when he was struggling. Goes with the job when you're a relatively high draft pick and aren't producing.

@GBFanForLife posted:

X4 whipping boy

He will have to out-battle Jordan Love for that title!

I don't know who haters hate more, Amari or Love?

I don’t hate either one. In my opinion, both were overdrafted. And both may become serviceable. They may both get better.

Differences between Love and Rodgers are pretty clear: pace of Love's development has been a little disappointing, but everyone knew he was a long-term project. Amari Rodgers has just been disappointing.

I think Love could put the Pack into contention for the coveted Ed Thorpe trophy.

Isn't Amari just Love in another language?

@mrtundra posted:

I don't know who haters hate more, Amari or Love?

I think the Love "Hate" is over-stated...criticism of Love doesn't equal "hate." Just like criticism of any other player doesn't always equal "hate."

@Chongo posted:

I think the Love "Hate" is over-stated...criticism of Love doesn't equal "hate." Just like criticism of any other player doesn't always equal "hate."

Way too sensible.

@PackerPatrick posted:

I don’t hate either one. In my opinion, both were overdrafted. And both may become serviceable. They may both get better.

Shouldn't we just call this an "AJ Hawk" on this board?

@Chongo posted:

I think the Love "Hate" is over-stated...criticism of Love doesn't equal "hate." Just like criticism of any other player doesn't always equal "hate."

He's treated pretty fairly here on X4. Get out there into the wild of the innerwebs and there is some strong Love hatred out there.

@MichiganPacker posted:

Shouldn't we just call this an "AJ Hawk" on this board?

Hawk wasn't over drafted.   He was over signed / extended, multiple times.

@PackerHawk posted:

He's treated pretty fairly here on X4. Get out there into the wild of the innerwebs and there is some strong Love hatred out there.

But that's true of pretty much everything no? Social media is the sewer of the innerwebs.

LMFAO...x4 is now a voice of reason.

@BrainDed posted:

Hawk wasn't over drafted.   He was over signed / extended, multiple times.

The 2006 draft was an interesting one. Not as many busts as a lot of drafts, but also no sure-thing Hall of Famers either (Andrew Whitworth, Devin Hester, and Jahri Evans are the closest).

The Packers have the last player still active from this 2006 draft class - M. Lewis. Unless Jason Peters gets signed by someone, Lewis is the oldest non-QB, non-Specialist in the league by quite a margin.  

The Packers have one of the last two players active from the 2007 draft class - Mason Crosby (along with Nick Folk).

Rodgers is one of the last two guys active from the 2005 draft (Dustin Colquitt).

@MichiganPacker posted:

Shouldn't we just call this an "AJ Hawk" on this board?

Maybe. Maybe not. 😉

So delay the decision a little?  That seems appropriate.

https://madison.com/sports/foo...f7-7085ebe56480.html

The esteemed Jason Wilde has an article up on Amari Rodgers, including this quote from Gute:

Players drafted in the 3rd round should be immediatel All-Pro

@grignon posted:

Isn't Amari just Love in another language?

Stealing material from the Dr.?

@GBFanForLife posted:

Players drafted in the 3rd round should be immediatel All-Pro

I'd settle for one Gute 3rd round pick becoming serviceable.

@DH13 posted:

Stealing material from the Dr.?

Which Dr?

I may not be original but I'm not a plagiarist.

Amari Rodgers yesterday: zero offensive snaps (11 ST snaps).

At this point, Amari Rodgers is nothing more than a younger 88 and we got rid of him.

@DH13 posted:

I guess I'll trot this out for the 1,001st time.  The difference between DA and every other developing receiver who's ever been compared to him in GB since then, is that DA showed all that he was capable of in his rookie year.  He was the best WR on the field in the playoff game vs. DAL (with peak whatshisname that didn't catch that ball) in the second half.  He was open a lot more than he got the ball too but AR went other places with it.  Getting separation off the line, breaking ankles on moves, YAC, toughness through the catch and tackle.  He was doing this his rookie year in the divisional round of the playoffs.

He needed to get more consistent with that production, and the ankle killed year #2 of that process.  But there was no wondering what he was capable of after that game and the regular season win vs. NE.  No young receiver in GB has shown that ability since then and if you see it again, it will answer a lot of questions.

The great ones don’t take three years to show flashes.

@michiganjoe posted:

Amari Rodgers yesterday: zero offensive snaps (11 ST snaps).

No offensive snaps in our WR corps?  🤣

When you have slow Cobb and slow Watkins, what more do you need?

Doubs and Watson.  Badly.

Have to give credit to Cowhurt when he said, "...When Aaron Rodgers loses Davante Adams you have to develop patience. Christian Watson drops a big-time throw to start the game that would have been a touchdown. He dropped it because he’s a rookie. Then rookie Romeo Doubs had a miscommunication with Aaron early – and what did he do with both of them? Patience? Understanding? No, he ghosted them. Christian Watson didn’t get another look until the fourth quarter. Matt LaFleur had to create reverses for both the rookie wide receivers because Aaron decided ‘I’m not going to you.’ That’s why AJ Dillon had so many catches, and the tight end had so many catches, Aaron went back to what he’s comfortable with. Eye-rolling, bad body language; once Aaron realized he was trailing, it was the fourth quarter, he was running out of time, and he had no choice, THEN he goes back to the kids..."

Rodgers has rarely gone back to a guy right away when that guy has made a mistake. It even took several years for Rodgers to do that with Adams. Analysts point it out when QBs go right back to a guy who dropped a ball and spout the cliche: "He's showing how much faith he has in him." That helps a WR remain confident.

Rodgers needs to learn the same thing Michael Jordan had to learn: you can be the greatest to play the game but in order to win, you have to elevate your good teammates to become greater players.

Rodgers is considered the “greatest QB” by many who view stats over championships (which is not necessarily wrong). Nobody really cares about body language.  But players dropping passes do not help his stats.

And people think we should spend high picks at the receiver position? Ridiculous that Gute didn’t just trade for the best vet WRs he could find.

Another WR drafted by thePackers in the third round from the great state of South Carolina also struggled in his first two seasons.  He, too, had a HoF QB throwing to him and a HoF WR getting most of the targets. Aside from that HoF WR, the other WRs were dogshit.  And, yet, that third rounder struggled to find the field and was just okay on STs. Took that WR until his third season to have an impact. I think he turned out pretty good for a third rounder until injuries took their toll.

Aaron Rodgers on Amari Rodgers' fit in offense: "Yeah, he's returning for us now. That's all I got on it."

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) September 14, 2022

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Aaron has more problem with Amari supposedly taking Cobbs place over Love taking his place. He won't help Amari get there

@Harry Manback posted:

Doubs and Watson.  Badly.

Truth.

Would have been preferable if there had been a Doubs or Watson in the pipeline prior to 2022 rather than throwing 2 rooks into the fray and expecting a veteran-like performance, but here we are.

I, for one, will not blame Watson or Doubs for playing like rookies because Jones, Cobb, Nelson, and Adams all had their fair of "rookie" moments (Jennings not so much) and it is unfair for Rodgers or the fans to expect otherwise.

Moreover, it is apparent to anyone watching that Doubs & Watson possess athleticism that Lazard never had (though he possesses other worthy attributes), Cobb & Watkins have not had in years, and Amari Rodgers can only dream about. Thus, while they might well flounder in their rookie seasons at least there is hope with both of them ... hope that does not exist with the rest of the WRs.

@Floridarob posted:

Aaron has more problem with Amari supposedly taking Cobbs place over Love taking his place. He won't help Amari get there

Your ability to see through the crap and get to the crux of just about any issue is amazing. 

Do the moon landing next

@PackLandVA posted:

Another WR drafted by thePackers in the third round from the great state of South Carolina also struggled in his first two seasons.  He, too, had a HoF QB throwing to him and a HoF WR getting most of the targets. Aside from that HoF WR, the other WRs were dogshit.  And, yet, that third rounder struggled to find the field and was just okay on STs. Took that WR until his third season to have an impact. I think he turned out pretty good for a third rounder until injuries took their toll.

Robert Brooks was awesome and you’re exactly right.  It really felt like #4 didn’t trust him until the 2nd half of the 1994 season his 3rd year.

I know their body types are a little different but Doubs actually sort of reminds me a little bit of Brooks.  Brooks wasn’t a pure speed burner, but whatever he lacked in speed he made up for by running extremely hard down after down and he was always under control when he was running.