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@The Crusher posted:

Did anyone see the analysis of that blocked punt and how it was a weak spot in the last few weeks of the season and therefore easy for the Niners ST to focus on and exploit?  The tape showed we had been close to allowing a block from pressure up the middle and it was just a matter of time.

The frustrating thing is that the Niners didn't even need to risk getting no punt return by doing it. It was zero risk on their part. They rushed 6 guys. Even if it wasn't blocked, they still have a shot at a good return (as opposed to selling out and rushing 8 since you need the punt returner back and a guy on each Packer gunner).

Just like the tape earlier in the year showed they were in danger of giving up a block from the edge on FG attempts and it was only a matter of time (Crosby just barely got the game winning attempt off at SF) and the Bengals exploited it to start the whole STs fiasco in that game. Drayton's explanation back then was that the speed of the snap should prevent the edge guy from getting there. But they had moved on from an excellent holder (Scott) who seemed to always get the laces down correctly to a guy that struggled with it (Bojorquez) and probably took a little longer because of it.

That's probably why they moved on to have Wirtel - because he had the fastest snap times ever recorded, which then set them up for the playoff punt block (because the reason Wirtel wasn't signed by other teams even though he was a great snapper was that he was undersized and susceptible to bull rushes).

The also moved on from JK Scott to Bojorquez because he was clearly a better punter. But the reason other teams let go of Bojorquez even though he was a top 5 punter was that he had a reputation for being a poor holder.

If they would have just stuck with JK Scott, they still have Bradley as a snapper, and Crosby doesn't have to get used to new guys, and none of this happens. They probably give up 3-4 yards per punt, but in retrospect, it wasn't worth it. Other teams made the calculation that it wasn't worth it either (ironically, the Rams).

Of course, if JK Scott was consistent as a punter none of this happens either.

With Bradley and Scott as the snapper and holder, Crosby converted 203 of 217 XPs and FGs from 2018-20.

When they switched to Bojorquez, Crosby was 65 for 76.

It looks like MLF is sticking with Drayton, so he'll have a whole offseason to "clean it up."

I am hard pushed to recall when Special Teams did anything remotely spectacular to change the momentum (in the Packers favor!) in a game or do something bold and daring. There is no evidence that Drayton and whomever he has assisting him could scheme up and coach something that outfoxes the other team.

I am hard pushed to recall when Special Teams did anything remotely spectacular to change the momentum (in the Packers favor!) in a game or do something bold and daring. There is no evidence that Drayton and whomever he has assisting him could scheme up and coach something that outfoxes the other team.

In the last 4 years (since Gutey has been the GM), here are the longest returns each year.

2021, longest punt return 23 yards, longest kickoff return 41 yards

2020, 11, 34

2019, 18, 45

2018, 24, 38

So, in 64 games there has been no punt return longer than 24 yards and no kickoff return longer than 45.

The Packers did have some decent returns when Trevor Davis was the punt returner in 2016-17, but the last punt return for a TD was in 2014 when Micah Hyde ran two of them back. Hyde ran another punt back for a TD in 2013, and Cobb ran one back in 2012.

In terms of kickoff returns, the only kickoff return for a TD since 2000 was when Randall Cobb ran one back 108 yards the first time he touched the ball in his career in the first game of 2011.

When Ron Wolf was the general manager, the Packers returned 7 kickoffs for TDs in 9 years in the regular season alone.

Since Wolf left as GM, they've run 1 back in 21 years.

According to USA Today, Whitney Mercilus is also an unrestricted free agent (https://packerswire.usatoday.c...-for-2022-offseason/)

I don’t see Za’Darius Smith on these lists, but I thought he was a free agent too? Or maybe it’s just speculation that we won’t be able to afford to bring him back. But after missing almost the whole season, wouldn’t it be risky for another team to pay him the big bucks?

There are a lot of dominoes that could fall in this thing. And as for Rodgers, I can’t imagine him even considering retiring after seeing his reputation and legacy getting tarnished as much as it did this year. In the first place, if he’s going to retire, he wants to be in the spotlight, not a footnote to the retirement of Brady. And secondly, he’ll want to rewrite his legend by going out on a more positive note than losing at home to the #6 seed after being given the bye week.



That's probably why they moved on to have Wirtel - because he had the fastest snap times ever recorded, which then set them up for the playoff punt block (because the reason Wirtel wasn't signed by other teams even though he was a great snapper was that he was undersized and susceptible to bull rushes).



Yeah, why Wirtel was the backup plan is a real headscratcher. Sure, his snaps are quick, but he's too athletically limited to do anything after that. He's light and can't block, and he can't get down the field to make plays. They were basically playing with only ten guys on the field, one of them a kicker-type.

Bradley's hitch was an issue too, but was there no better option? Hell, I'm not sure trying to bring back Brett Goode would even have been worse (yeah, it would, but still...).

@RoyalWulff posted:

According to USA Today, Whitney Mercilus is also an unrestricted free agent (https://packerswire.usatoday.c...-for-2022-offseason/)

I don’t see Za’Darius Smith on these lists, but I thought he was a free agent too? Or maybe it’s just speculation that we won’t be able to afford to bring him back. But after missing almost the whole season, wouldn’t it be risky for another team to pay him the big bucks?



Have you seen his cap number for 2022? He is either taking a giant pay cut or he’s a cap casualty.

I am hard pushed to recall when Special Teams did anything remotely spectacular to change the momentum (in the Packers favor!) in a game or do something bold and daring. There is no evidence that Drayton and whomever he has assisting him could scheme up and coach something that outfoxes the other team.

Allen Rossum kick return for TD circa 2000?

@TomSilverstein: #Packers announce coaching changes: WRs coach Jason Vrable to WRs/passing game coordinator, Luke Butkus to offensive line coach, Connor Lewis to assistant quarterbacks coach and Ryan Mahaffey to assistant offensive line coach. LaFleur needs a QBs coach.

For a story from the 'throw crap on the wall and see what sticks' genre, it's actually interesting to ponder.

Cousins is who he is (basically a .500 QB) at this point in his career, and I wouldn't expect him to change much from that. But, with a solid defense, a .500 QB can win enough games to at least make the playoffs.

And I suppose there is some way to make it work under the cap, but that doesn't change the fact he's going to get paid $45M no matter how it's spread out on paper. And, at age 33, how many years are available to do that spread?

It would seem to there's not a significant difference between Rodgers and Cousins, as far as the affect on the cap. And that would be a deal-killer.

But it would be sweet if that happened at it gets us a Superb Owl victory. A burn on the Vikes and Rodgers...

Yuk.    Cousins is more afraid to throw anything risky than is Rodgers, but at least Rodgers will throw down the field -- something Cousins avoids. When he beat GB earlier this year by making some throws he normally wouldn't, he openly criticized himself saying that he didn't want to make those types of throws every game. Cousins has the arm but definitely lacks the guts.

@Goalline posted:

Now do touchdowns and interceptions

No need….I just read Fandames post about throwing downfield….I thought our guy would be way ahead.  He wasn’t, then I noticed the %.  

Stats sometimes are deceiving.

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